Six in 10 Americans don't want Trump to be president again: 2024 poll

[Yellowtail]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

Looks like you've been drinking the Koolaid..

Why So Few Absentee Ballots Were Rejected In 2020

 "Election-administration experts cite several factors, but a big one was that voters submitted their absentee ballots early. That’s important because, in a normal election, the number-one reason that absentee ballots are not counted is that they arrive too late. But in 2020, several states reported steep dropoffs in the share of absentees received after the deadline."

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-so-few-absentee-ballots-were-rejected-in-2020/

Are claiming the article you linked to explains the irregularity or that it was not irregular? 

 

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5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Are claiming the article you linked to explains the irregularity or that it was not irregular? 

 

"Irregularity" is a murky term which is the only reason you originally and are now using it.

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56 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Are claiming the article you linked to explains the irregularity or that it was not irregular? 

 

Your B..S. about irregularity isn't fooling anyone. Why did you even bring up the issue of "rregularities" if they weren't significant? Why even note that there was a lower ratio of rejected ballots to accepted ballots if the reason for that has no bearing on the validity of the election results? Should we classify such factoids as interestingly insignificant?

[heybruce]

7 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Are claiming the article you linked to explains the irregularity or that it was not irregular? 

 

The "irregularity" of an unusually high number of Democrats voting by mail and being careful when filling out their ballots has been explained  Are you claiming there are other irregularities to be explained?  If so, please be specific.

[Yellowtail]

4 hours ago, heybruce said:

The "irregularity" of an unusually high number of Democrats voting by mail and being careful when filling out their ballots has been explained  Are you claiming there are other irregularities to be explained?  If so, please be specific.

Okay, so it was an irregularity that was "explained", not fraud, thanks.  

[Eric Loh]

13 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Okay, so it was an irregularity that was "explained", not fraud, thanks.  

Perhaps too complicated for you to understand. Mail-in ballots not novel and used as far back as 17 century Massachusetts when men voted from home due to vulnerability to Indian attack. Trump lost and spread lies that there were irregularities and unproven fraud. It’s that simple to understand 

 

 

[newnative]

9 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Perhaps too complicated for you to understand. Mail-in ballots not novel and used as far back as 17 century Massachusetts when men voted from home due to vulnerability to Indian attack. Trump lost and spread lies that there were irregularities and unproven fraud. It’s that simple to understand 

 

 

      Yes, it really is just that simple.  Biden urged his supporters to vote by mail.  They did, in record numbers.  Trump urged his supporters to wait and vote on election day.  They did.  Quelle surprise, Biden received more mail-in votes than Trump.  Election night, Trump appeared  to be winning because some close states, such as Pennsylvania, reported the easier to tabulate election day votes first.  When all the mailed-in votes were opened and counted, a much more time-consuming process, the race shifted and Biden won.  Just. That. Simple.

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27 minutes ago, newnative said:

      Yes, it really is just that simple.  Biden urged his supporters to vote by mail.  They did, in record numbers.  Trump urged his supporters to wait and vote on election day.  They did.  Quelle surprise, Biden received more mail-in votes than Trump.  Election night, Trump appeared  to be winning because some close states, such as Pennsylvania, reported the easier to tabulate election day votes first.  When all the mailed-in votes were opened and counted, a much more time-consuming process, the race shifted and Biden won.  Just. That. Simple.

Actually, it's far less creditable to the Republicans than that. The Democrats in the legislature actually pushed for mail-in ballots to be counted in advance, as is done in some states. They anticipated that Republicans would use the disparity between mail-in ballots and voting machine ballots to question the credibility of the former. The Republicans refused. But as turned out to be the case,  the Democrats had no reason to be concerned because not even the Republicans would sink that low...............just kidding.

[johnnybangkok]

20 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Every Republican I know, would rather he was not the nominee, but if he is, they will hold their nose and vote for him.

 

And there is the problem summed up in one easy paragraph.
This obsession with identity politics in the US means that you would rather vote a criminal who pays off porn stars and playboy bunnies, who defrauds his own charity and surrounds himself with criminals into the highest role in the land just because he’s “not Biden” or heaven forbid a Democrat. 
If this was the best my party could come up with to lead I would absolutely swap sides. But then again, integrity isn’t for everyone. 

[ThaiFelix]

On 3/29/2023 at 9:34 AM, JimHuaHin said:

Just another indication of how <deleted> 40% of Americans are.

Totally agree.  As everyone now knows, and its impossible to deny, hes a pathological liar, the figure should be more like 99.99% against (the 0.01% allowing for Trump and the other mentally challenged voters),,,,,but we are talking about americans after all.

Edited April 6, 2023 by ThaiFelix

[Yellowtail]

3 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

And there is the problem summed up in one easy paragraph.
This obsession with identity politics in the US means that you would rather vote a criminal who pays off porn stars and playboy bunnies, who defrauds his own charity and surrounds himself with criminals into the highest role in the land just because he’s “not Biden” or heaven forbid a Democrat. 
If this was the best my party could come up with to lead I would absolutely swap sides. But then again, integrity isn’t for everyone. 

Oh, for a minute I thought you were talking about the Clintons!

 

I think banging a porn-star is less despicable than taking advantage of a White House intern in the White House for year(s) or than sexually assaulting a Senate staffer. 

 

Again, I liked what President Trump did and tried to do MUCH MORE than what Presidents Obama and Biden did and are doing. I don't like that he fools around on his wife, but I care less about that than I do about what Presidents Obama and Biden did and are doing to my country.

 

You don't give whit what your guys do, you're a leftist and you love the direction the county is headed under leftist leadership, I don't. I'll vote for anyone I think will slow that slide down, you'll vote for anyone you think will accelerate it, whatever. 

 

It is interesting how the left seemed to love Trump before he got the Republican nomination, now he's the Devil incarnate. 

 

Whoever wins the Republican nomination will be treated EXACTY the same way Trump is being treated. 

 

 

[dingdongrb]

Let me ask, why be affiliated with a certain party and vote for that party's nominee all the time regardless?

 

Why not just vote for the best person that will do the best job?

 

I don't consider myself with being a Republican, a Democrat, an Independent, or any other party.

 

I consider myself as being an AMERICAN!

[scorecard]

16 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Oh, for a minute I thought you were talking about the Clintons!

 

I think banging a porn-star is less despicable than taking advantage of a White House intern in the White House for year(s) or than sexually assaulting a Senate staffer. 

 

Again, I liked what President Trump did and tried to do MUCH MORE than what Presidents Obama and Biden did and are doing. I don't like that he fools around on his wife, but I care less about that than I do about what Presidents Obama and Biden did and are doing to my country.

 

You don't give whit what your guys do, you're a leftist and you love the direction the county is headed under leftist leadership, I don't. I'll vote for anyone I think will slow that slide down, you'll vote for anyone you think will accelerate it, whatever. 

 

It is interesting how the left seemed to love Trump before he got the Republican nomination, now he's the Devil incarnate. 

 

Whoever wins the Republican nomination will be treated EXACTY the same way Trump is being treated. 

 

 

Trump is being treated the way he should be treated; investigated and if there's aligned evidence he should taken to court and if found guilty punished appropriately.

 

He should receive no special treatment; past presidents are not entitled in any way to any different approach to the law. The law of the land applied equally to all. Earlier in his presidency he said many times:

- I am your president of law and order.

- Nobody is above the law.

 

"It is interesting how the left seemed to love Trump before he got the Republican nomination, now he's the Devil incarnate."  Really, I don't buy that.

 

"Whoever wins the Republican nomination will be treated EXACTY the same way Trump is being treated. "  Really, I don't buy that. Most other folks don't tell continuous obvious massive lies and twists of the situation at hand. They have scruples, they have ethics and morals, they tell the truth. 

 

 

[Jingthing]

"Banging a porn star" is not part of any of the 34 felony charges against the Florida Man of Mar a Lardo. 

[ozimoron]

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Oh, for a minute I thought you were talking about the Clintons!

 

I think banging a porn-star is less despicable than taking advantage of a White House intern in the White House for year(s) or than sexually assaulting a Senate staffer. 

 

Again, I liked what President Trump did and tried to do MUCH MORE than what Presidents Obama and Biden did and are doing. I don't like that he fools around on his wife, but I care less about that than I do about what Presidents Obama and Biden did and are doing to my country.

 

You don't give whit what your guys do, you're a leftist and you love the direction the county is headed under leftist leadership, I don't. I'll vote for anyone I think will slow that slide down, you'll vote for anyone you think will accelerate it, whatever. 

 

It is interesting how the left seemed to love Trump before he got the Republican nomination, now he's the Devil incarnate. 

 

Whoever wins the Republican nomination will be treated EXACTY the same way Trump is being treated. 

 

 

The difference is that you paid for Trump to bang that porn star. That's why he's in court.

 

Clinton never paid Lewinski hush money, maybe he should have?

Edited April 6, 2023 by ozimoron

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2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Oh, for a minute I thought you were talking about the Clintons!

 

I think banging a porn-star is less despicable than taking advantage of a White House intern in the White House for year(s) or than sexually assaulting a Senate staffer. 

 

Again, I liked what President Trump did and tried to do MUCH MORE than what Presidents Obama and Biden did and are doing. I don't like that he fools around on his wife, but I care less about that than I do about what Presidents Obama and Biden did and are doing to my country.

 

You don't give whit what your guys do, you're a leftist and you love the direction the county is headed under leftist leadership, I don't. I'll vote for anyone I think will slow that slide down, you'll vote for anyone you think will accelerate it, whatever. 

 

It is interesting how the left seemed to love Trump before he got the Republican nomination, now he's the Devil incarnate. 

 

Whoever wins the Republican nomination will be treated EXACTY the same way Trump is being treated. 

 

 

Boo hoo hoo, the Clintons. Quick look over there.  The rest of your blah is poorly founded opinion.

"six in ten americans don't want trump to be president again"-

 

You ain't seen nuthin yet.

[FritsSikkink]

On 3/29/2023 at 9:02 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Six in 10 Americans don't want Trump to be president again

 

Which might mean that 4 out of 10 DO want him to be POTUS again.

No wonder the Dems are trying to get him legally barred from standing again!

 

No they would like it, because if he runs he will loose again.

[Yellowtail]

4 hours ago, dingdongrb said:

Let me ask, why be affiliated with a certain party and vote for that party's nominee all the time regardless?

Why indeed?

4 hours ago, dingdongrb said:

Why not just vote for the best person that will do the best job?

I vote for the people I think will do what I want done. 

4 hours ago, dingdongrb said:

I don't consider myself with being a Republican, a Democrat, an Independent, or any other party.

I'm the same way. 

4 hours ago, dingdongrb said:

I consider myself as being an AMERICAN!

As do I! 

[Yellowtail]

2 hours ago, ozimoron said:

The difference is that you paid for Trump to bang that porn star. That's why he's in court.

 

Clinton never paid Lewinski hush money, maybe he should have?

He tried, and we paid for that as well. 

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5 hours ago, dingdongrb said:

Let me ask, why be affiliated with a certain party and vote for that party's nominee all the time regardless?

 

Why not just vote for the best person that will do the best job?

 

I don't consider myself with being a Republican, a Democrat, an Independent, or any other party.

 

I consider myself as being an AMERICAN!

Not so long ago someone who contributes here claimed to be a swing voter. It was ludicrous because they wouldn't hear a word against Trump. When people make pronouncements like yours, it's just to cloak whatever political agenda they have in a mantle of nonpartisanship.

 

Maybe spend a little less time wrapping yourself in the flag and little more telling us about what policies you support and what policies you don't. Although, given your earlier comments, including that ridiculous invocation of OJ, it's clear that the ground you're standing on is really a pile of B.S.

 

I think it's useful to recall what Samuel Johnson said when he criticized a lowlife politician's claim to similar sentiments. "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."

[dingdongrb]

47 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Maybe spend a little less time wrapping yourself in the flag and little more telling us about what policies you support and what policies you don't. Although, given your earlier comments, including that ridiculous invocation of OJ, it's clear that the ground you're standing on is really a pile of B.S.

I have no reason or desire to inform you of what policies I am for or against, does that hurt your feelers more?

 

If mentioning OJ offended you then I'm sorry....How about Robert Blake?

 

Yes, I have a Bachelor of Science degree and I stand firmly on what I was taught. I didn't have the willpower to go for the PhD.

[pomchop]

And 70% of republicans still believe the 2020 election was stolen, the earth is flat, and if you stand by your mail box Ed McMahon and the easter bunny will show up with Publishers clearing house check for a few hundred million bucks just for you....delusional.

[pomchop]

21 hours ago, heybruce said:

The "irregularity" of an unusually high number of Democrats voting by mail and being careful when filling out their ballots has been explained  Are you claiming there are other irregularities to be explained?  If so, please be specific.

60++ court cases, recount after recount, investigation after investigation ,mostly done by republicans...two years later still waiting for any credible evidence of rigged election...at some point in time a rational person might conclude that if there were any evidence someone would lay it out for the world to see.  A rational person might finally admit that they have been lied to by Trump and the bat shxt crazy conspiracy theory bunch that continues to push their stolen election BS without any evidence.  Please please all you election deniers go ahead and show us your evidence.  We have all been waiting for over two years.  If you have no evidence then man up and admit that you are/were wrong and trump did not win the 2020 election....not even close.

[heybruce]

12 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Oh, for a minute I thought you were talking about the Clintons!

 

I think banging a porn-star is less despicable than taking advantage of a White House intern in the White House for year(s) or than sexually assaulting a Senate staffer. 

 

Again, I liked what President Trump did and tried to do MUCH MORE than what Presidents Obama and Biden did and are doing. I don't like that he fools around on his wife, but I care less about that than I do about what Presidents Obama and Biden did and are doing to my country.

 

You don't give whit what your guys do, you're a leftist and you love the direction the county is headed under leftist leadership, I don't. I'll vote for anyone I think will slow that slide down, you'll vote for anyone you think will accelerate it, whatever. 

 

It is interesting how the left seemed to love Trump before he got the Republican nomination, now he's the Devil incarnate. 

 

Whoever wins the Republican nomination will be treated EXACTY the same way Trump is being treated. 

 

 

Sex with a porn star while his wife was recovering from giving birth to his child is one of the least despicable things Trump did.

 

Trump turned over all significant governing responsibilities to Mitch McConnell while Trump went on ego stroking rallies and overseas trips.  He liked all the attention, which is why he attempted to overturn a legitimate election.

 

But, as you posted, you liked that.

[thaibeachlovers]

8 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

No they would like it, because if he runs he will loose again.

Sadly I have to agree, though if he does stand and win I'll be as happy as a sand boy in a very big pile of sand.

[thaibeachlovers]

8 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Why indeed?

I vote for the people I think will do what I want done. 

I'm the same way. 

As do I! 

That is how it should be, but sadly for all of us unless a party gets to rule the chance of an individual getting anything done is slight.

 

I'd like to see the end of parties altogether and all politicians standing as independents.

[Yellowtail]

1 hour ago, heybruce said:

Sex with a porn star while his wife was recovering from giving birth to his child is one of the least despicable things Trump did.

 

Trump turned over all significant governing responsibilities to Mitch McConnell while Trump went on ego stroking rallies and overseas trips.  He liked all the attention, which is why he attempted to overturn a legitimate election.

 

But, as you posted, you liked that.

You're a leftist, and you like the things Presidents Obama and Biden did and are doing to the country, I don't. 

 

I'm a conservative, and I like the things Trump did and tried to do, you don't. 

 

The treatment of Trump is really no different than that od any other Republican President, the left has just gotten stronger and more unified. The game plan it that ANYONE standing against the Left will be crushed.

 

Republicans were/are asleep at the wheel for the takeover. 

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7 hours ago, dingdongrb said:

I have no reason or desire to inform you of what policies I am for or against, does that hurt your feelers more?

 

If mentioning OJ offended you then I'm sorry....How about Robert Blake?

 

Yes, I have a Bachelor of Science degree and I stand firmly on what I was taught. I didn't have the willpower to go for the PhD.

It's typical of those who have no rational arguments to offer that they, like you, make it personal instead.

 

And I will concede that invoking Robert Blake makes no less sense than invoking OJ Simpson. Just no more.

 

If, in fact, you have a Bachelor of Science degree, that doesn't signify whether or not your posts hear are actually rational.

[dingdongrb]

9 minutes ago, placeholder said:

It's typical of those who have no rational arguments to offer that they, like you, make it personal instead.

 

And I will concede that invoking Robert Blake makes no less sense than invoking OJ Simpson. Just no more.

 

If, in fact, you have a Bachelor of Science degree, that doesn't signify whether or not your posts hear are actually rational.

Unlike many, I wasn't trying to argue with anyone or to state any arguments. My post was merely conveying that I vote for whom I think will do the best job regardless of the candidate's political party. I know, it's a concept that's hard for some to believe.

 

Sorry, my posts don't have ears.

[jerrymahoney]

On 3/29/2023 at 9:02 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

No wonder the Dems are trying to get him legally barred from standing again!

No.

 

"There are no legal obstacles to running for president as a convicted felon or even from behind bars."

 

“There’s nothing barring Trump from running. Even a federal conviction doesn’t prevent that. … Even if he were mentally insane,” Mazo said. “The Supreme Court has said what’s in the Constitution are the only requirements you need to run for federal office.”

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/06/trump-running-for-president-prison-00090931#:~:text=There are no legal obstacles,or even from behind bars.

Edited April 7, 2023 by jerrymahoney