It's Hot (What if Global Warming is Here?)

[Danderman123]

I don't remember an April as hot as this month. If we don't get rain soon, it's going to be unbearable.  And, if Summer is hotter, watch out!

 

I have started working on sunshades for my condo, using solar panels. 

 

Anything else useful in cooling my place?

 

Maybe this is just a random weather event, maybe it's the onset of Global Warming

 

[Crossy]

"Global Warming" is passé, it's now "Climate Change". Same, same!

 

Climate Change is real enough, just how much of it is caused by us is debatable but it's definitely not "none".

 

[jacko45k]

I recall hot weather like this many times over the years.... when I foolishly arrived here as a tourist without thinking about the time of year. More recently I often left the country late April for UK to enjoy the spring snow there! I have put a large cloth screen up to keep the afternoon sun off my bedroom wall. Although doing the job in the heat caused me a few wobbles! Sun is at it's closest now as it heads North... post Songkran is traditionally the time of year the heat breaks with rain!

Edited April 19, 2023 by jacko45k

[Lacessit]

12 minutes ago, Crossy said:

"Global Warming" is passé, it's now "Climate Change". Same, same!

 

Climate Change is real enough, just how much of it is caused by us is debatable but it's definitely not "none".

 

It's not the same. Climate change is the result of global warming, following as night follows day.

Global warming is the Second Law of Thermodynamics in operation. Climate change is the First Law of Thermodynamics at work as a consequence.

The ship has already sailed as far as scientists are concerned, when it comes to global warming being caused by anthropomorphic emissions of carbon dioxide. The evidence is overwhelming.

Roof insulation, venting of ceiling space help.

Edited April 19, 2023 by Lacessit

[nigelforbes]

Call it whatever you want to, it's become unbearably hot, the hottest and most uncomfortable I have ever known in the past 20 years. 

[Crossy]

5 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

It's not the same. Climate change is the result of global warming, following as night follows day.

Global warming is the Second Law of Thermodynamics in operation. Climate change is the First Law of Thermodynamics at work as a consequence.

Roof insulation, venting of ceiling space help.

 

I'm not a climatologist so no argument from me, the two terms get used interchangeably in the media with Climate Change being more prevalent.

 

It's not really that long ago that we were "heading for a mini ice-age" due to "global dimming", I wonder where that went

 

[bignok]

2 minutes ago, nigelforbes said:

Call it whatever you want to, it's become unbearably hot, the hottest and most uncomfortable I have ever known in the past 20 years. 

What about the nights?

[Lacessit]

1 minute ago, nigelforbes said:

Call it whatever you want to, it's become unbearably hot, the hottest and most uncomfortable I have ever known in the past 20 years. 

Check out Tropical Cyclone Ilsa, which recently set new records for sustained wind speeds in Australia.

Pro tip. Don't buy any real estate in Bangkok.

[Lacessit]

2 minutes ago, Crossy said:

 

I'm not a climatologist so no argument from me, the two terms get used interchangeably in the media with Climate Change being more prevalent.

 

It's not really that long ago that we were "heading for a mini ice-age" due to "global dimming", I wonder where that went

 

The reason the media get the two terms mixed up is ignorance. Try finding a journalist who has any scientific training, let alone in thermodynamics.

 

IIRC, the ice age was supposed to happen if we had a nuclear winter.

[nigelforbes]

21 minutes ago, bignok said:

What about the nights?

After about 4:30pm it's OK where we are (30 kms North of Chiang Mai). Overnight is cool and pleasant and the morning the same, by around 10:30/11 it's started to become too hot for me to work outside (I'm a young/strong 73). Inside the house we run aircon on dehumidify mode from mid day until we go to bed, that all we need to get the temperature down....humidity readings here are circa 75%.

[nigelforbes]

24 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Check out Tropical Cyclone Ilsa, which recently set new records for sustained wind speeds in Australia.

Pro tip. Don't buy any real estate in Bangkok.

The recent storm that carved a narrow path through Chiang Mai a couple of weeks ago was a real eye opener for me. It started on the edge of town and weaved its way through town, zig zagging erratically until it found our house and garden. It's path was never more than a couple of hundred meters wide but the hail stones were the size of tennis balls and the winds more powerful than any I could ever possibly imagine, let alone ever seen firsthand (and I've been through a hurricane in Miami years ago). It was truly frightening experience, I expected the roof to go but fortunately it held, several large trees in our garden didn't, neither did the electric polls on our soi. Call it what you will, it's a seriously bad and it's getting worse, we're now prepping for the next one!

[BE88]

In the last few months there have been large explosions of magma on the sun and evidently the earth has received more solar heat which is what has increased the temperatures on earth I am not an expert to state it but it is reasonably possible to think so.

There is no doubt that the earth has undergone several changes due to the sun and the only solution would be to put a thermostat on the sun to be able to regulate the temperature and not make us these continuous mood swings.

[Pink Mist]

La Nina has left the building and El Nino has arrived. It is so much hotter than last year. Just paid the PEA bill and ugh....8965 THB. I can only imagine next month's being higher, but maybe not. The average high is between 3 and 5 Celsius per day higher this year and any other year so far at the house. I have kept daily records thanks to my weather setup.

[nigelforbes]

1 minute ago, Pink Mist said:

La Nina has left the building and El Nino has arrived. It is so much hotter than last year. Just paid the PEA bill and ugh....8965 THB. I can only imagine next month's being higher, but maybe not. The average high is between 3 and 5 Celsius per day higher this year and any other year so far at the house. I have kept daily records thanks to my weather setup.

Top tips to reduce that bill:

 

Paint your roof white or at least a light colour, we did and it reduced our leccy bills massively.

 

Run air con on dehumidify mode, it's highly effective and halves the cost.

 

Shade the windows with external wood blinds, where possible, they reduce internal temperature significantly. 

 

Have the wife bring you cold beers throughout the day, the less you exert yourself the less you will sweat.'

 

Our leccy bill, 100 square meters living space, single story, very high pitch roof, well insulated attic floor, 4 air con units (never more than dehumidify mode), two people but wife contant baking throughout the day, never more than 2,200 month, typically 1,500, last month 1,200.

 

[The Fugitive]

Just now, BE88 said:

In the last few months there have been large explosions of magma on the sun and evidently the earth has received more solar heat which is what has increased the temperatures on earth I am not an expert to state it but it is reasonably possible to think so.

There is no doubt that the earth has undergone several changes due to the sun and the only solution would be to put a thermostat on the sun to be able to regulate the temperature and not make us these continuous mood swings.

Interesting. Therefore nothing to do with Global Warming causing Climate Change. The reason we are hotter is because someone's throwing more coal on the fire!

[Danderman123]

51 minutes ago, BE88 said:

In the last few months there have been large explosions of magma on the sun and evidently the earth has received more solar heat which is what has increased the temperatures on earth I am not an expert to state it but it is reasonably possible to think so.

There is no doubt that the earth has undergone several changes due to the sun and the only solution would be to put a thermostat on the sun to be able to regulate the temperature and not make us these continuous mood swings.

There is no "magma" on the Sun.

 

There are solar flares, but these do not impact our weather:

 

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/do-solar-storms-cause-heat-waves-earth#:~:text=Because the energy does not,measurable influence on surface temperature.

 

Therefore, your post is misinformation.

[JustThisOnePostOnly]

Good thing that all of these volcanoes erupting has nothing to do with it.

 

Because otherwise we'd have to ban volcanoes.

[Danderman123]

3 minutes ago, The Fugitive said:

Interesting. Therefore nothing to do with Global Warming causing Climate Change. The reason we are hotter is because someone's throwing more coal on the fire!

Nope.

 

No one is throwing coal on the fire, if your "fire" is the Sun.

[Danderman123]

1 minute ago, JustThisOnePostOnly said:

Good thing that all of these volcanoes erupting has nothing to do with it.

 

Because otherwise we'd have to ban volcanoes.

Volcanoes cool the planet, via emissions of silicon dioxide.

 

It's fairly trivial to measure noxious gas output from all the cars and motor in Thailand and compare against temperature over the years.

[The Fugitive]

Just now, Danderman123 said:

There is no "magma" on the Sun.

 

There are solar flares, but these do not impact our weather:

 

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/do-solar-storms-cause-heat-waves-earth#:~:text=Because the energy does not,measurable influence on surface temperature.

 

Therefore, your post is misinformation.

To simplify, solar activity has to change for decades for it to have any effect upon earth temperature.

[Danderman123]

6 minutes ago, The Fugitive said:

To simplify, solar activity has to change for decades for it to have any effect upon earth temperature.

Solar activity is pretty much a random walk over the medium term.

 

There is no correlation between current warming and solar activity. 

[jacko45k]

35 minutes ago, nigelforbes said:

Run air con on dehumidify mode, it's highly effective and halves the cost.

I don't know where you get this from. I believe a few factors may affect it. (Usual setting, model of AC, ambient nighttime temp) I tried it, and it put UP my electricity bill. I also woke up  feeling cold with a harsh dry sore throat. My AC cycled in that mode (fan on/off), but it brought the temperature down to 23 degC.. which I could not adjust on my unit. (Daikin). Usually I set it to 25degC cooling/ nighttime mode.

[jaideedave]

2 hours ago, nigelforbes said:

Call it whatever you want to, it's become unbearably hot, the hottest and most uncomfortable I have ever known in the past 20 years. 

19 years in Pattaya and yes It's the hottest now that I recall.37 c the other day.I worked in Iran years ago and it hit 50 c but nearly no humididty so not so bad.

[KhunLA]

@Danderman123

"I have started working on sunshades for my condo, using solar panels."

 

Smart move, I like it.  Are they fixed, if south facing or adjustable, if E or W facing.  Got me thinking now for a small project, as have no E facing panels now.

 

Haven't noticed temps being any hotter or cooler, as March & April have always been brutal.

 

Did have a seemingly longer rainy season last year, though may have only noticed, since solar was installed then.   But from chit chat here, seems well into late Oct, overcast & still raining most areas.

Edited April 19, 2023 by KhunLA

[Danderman123]

4 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

@Danderman123

"I have started working on sunshades for my condo, using solar panels."

 

Smart move, I like it.  Are they fixed, if south facing or adjustable, if E or W facing.  Got me thinking now for a small project, as have no E facing panels now.

 

Haven't noticed temps being any hotter or cooler, as March & April have always been brutal.

 

Did have a seemingly longer rainy season last year, though may have only noticed, since solar was installed then.   But from chit chat here, seems well into late Oct, overcast & still raining most areas.

My condo faces north, so the Sun only heats up my condo for a few months of the year.

[nigelforbes]

43 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

I don't know where you get this from. I believe a few factors may affect it. (Usual setting, model of AC, ambient nighttime temp) I tried it, and it put UP my electricity bill. I also woke up  feeling cold with a harsh dry sore throat. My AC cycled in that mode (fan on/off), but it brought the temperature down to 23 degC.. which I could not adjust on my unit. (Daikin). Usually I set it to 25degC cooling/ nighttime mode.

Your aircon unit needs to have a dehumidify mode, if it does (and most have) there is no associated temperature setting or control it's either dehumidify or nothing. Using aircon in this way is long established and proven practise, I thought everyone understood this. It's a fact of science that if you lower the humidity, the air feels cooler.

[Danderman123]

6 minutes ago, nigelforbes said:

Your aircon unit needs to have a dehumidify mode, if it does (and most have) there is no associated temperature setting or control it's either dehumidify or nothing. Using aircon in this way is long established and proven practise, I thought everyone understood this. It's a fact of science that if you lower the humidity, the air feels cooler.

on my aircon this is called "Dry" mode.

[nigelforbes]

2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

on my aircon this is called "Dry" mode.

Yes, on most remote controls it's shown as a tear drop or rain drop and you can't adjust the temperature on that setting.

Edited April 19, 2023 by nigelforbes

[KhunLA]

9 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

My condo faces north, so the Sun only heats up my condo for a few months of the year.

Yea, that axis is a b!tch.  2nd house was rectangle, due E to W, long ways, and N wall, all glass.  Forgot about the axis, and couple months a year, the early sun was blinding for couple hours.

 

[spidermike007]

Climate change is real, and we caused it. We are currently behaving as if we have multiple alternative planets to move it. The degree of recklessness mankind is showing towards this precious and remarkable planet is an abomination. Dumping raw sewage in the open seas, tankers dispersing massive amounts of waste into the sea, obsessive consumption of plastic, the use of old, poorly maintained diesel vehicles, coal fired plants, the list goes on. We are not responsible stewards of this planet.