idealistic123 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) About two months ago I bought a brand new Ford Ranger Wildtrak with a good discount. The car itself is great and hasn't caused any issues. The problem is that I live in Bangkok. At first I thought that driving a Pick-Up in Bangkok would be alright since there are so many Pick-Ups on the roads in and around the city. Besides that I would never buy a Pick-Up in my home country but in Thailand it seemed very desirable. However, I don't enjoy driving such a big car in Bangkok traffic on a daily basis. Especially parking is super annoying. Fuel consumption is ok (8,2L / 100km) but would be lower with a more compact car. I know that I won't drive this car for another 2, 3, 4 oder 5 years in Bangkok. Would it make sense to sell the car as fast as possible while it is still on red license plates or should I drive it for a year to take advangtage of the "free" first year of 1st class insurance that came with the car and sell it afterwards? Possible alternatives would be Mazda CX-30, Honda H-RV or Toyota Corolla Cross. Do these brands offer trades-ins if you buy a new car with them? Edited April 29, 2023 by idealistic123 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Peterw42 Posted April 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2023 I have never really understood foriegners buying big pickup trucks to drive in urban Thailand. I'm in Pattaya and its hilarious watching guys try and negotiate traffic, small sois, parking areas etc. 2 1 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FriendlyFarang Posted April 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, idealistic123 said: Would it make sense to sell the car as fast as possible while it is still on red license plates or should I drive it for a year to take advangtage of the "free" first year of 1st class insurance that came with the car and sell it afterwards? Why would you want to drive a car that annoys you to maybe save a few thousand baht? I would just offer it for sale now, and when somebody offers you a good price you sell it, no need to hurry too. 10 minutes ago, idealistic123 said: Do these brands offer trades-ins if you buy a new car with them? Probably every dealer will offer you a trade in, but if you sell it yourself you will get more. Edited April 29, 2023 by FriendlyFarang 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sungod Posted April 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, Peterw42 said: I have never really understood foriegners buying big pickup trucks to drive in urban Thailand. I'm in Pattaya and its hilarious watching guys try and negotiate traffic, small sois, parking areas etc. Do you find the Thais in big pick up trucks in Pattaya do it better? More/less hilarious or equally? 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post idealistic123 Posted April 29, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2023 13 minutes ago, Peterw42 said: I have never really understood foriegners buying big pickup trucks to drive in urban Thailand. I'm in Pattaya and its hilarious watching guys try and negotiate traffic, small sois, parking areas etc. Seems like I had to make the experience first to understand the hassle of owning in a big car in a big city. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Just now, idealistic123 said: Seems like I had to make the experience first to understand the hassle of owning in a big car in a big city. We do seem to learn from our mistakes, some more quickly than others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sungod Posted April 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, idealistic123 said: Seems like I had to make the experience first to understand the hassle of owning in a big car in a big city. Never had a problem personally. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post idealistic123 Posted April 29, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2023 Just now, sungod said: Never had a problem personally. I wouldn't call it "problem" either. I've been driving 3,300km in the last 1,5 months and I just came to the conclusion that a Pick-Up doesn't make much sense for me. At first I thought that it would be very practical. But if I'm honest it is the complete opposite. It's only my girlfriend and me...we never transport heavy or long loads, we never go offroad, we never travel to remote provinces. So there is basically no real use case for a car like a Ranger. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Cook Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Either way they’re like women, they gonna cost you. If you don’t like it sell it or trade it but you’re going to get reamed. On a new car expect to lose at least 20% if it is 2023 or 30% if it is 2022. I had a similar experience last year bought a top of the range wide track twin turbo diesel, then saw the Raptor a couple of months later and sold the wild track to upgrade. Lost about 200,000 baht. Boys and toys, them’s the breaks. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post giddyup Posted April 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Peterw42 said: I have never really understood foriegners buying big pickup trucks to drive in urban Thailand. I'm in Pattaya and its hilarious watching guys try and negotiate traffic, small sois, parking areas etc. Been driving a pickup in Pats for 14 years without a problem. Edited April 29, 2023 by giddyup 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Henryford Posted April 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) Why would anyone buy a pick up? unless you are a tradesman. 90% of the pick ups have nothing in the back and during rainy season it must be a problem if you want to carry something. 40% of the truck is useless, plus they handle terribly with all the weight at the front. Some of them have that stupid cramped back seat and half door !! As for putting children in the back OMG. An estate car would be so much better but you see none on the roads (or for sale). Edited April 29, 2023 by Henryford 2 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 56 minutes ago, Peterw42 said: I have never really understood foriegners buying big pickup trucks to drive in urban Thailand. I'm in Pattaya and its hilarious watching guys try and negotiate traffic, small sois, parking areas etc. I've never heard a pickup referred to as a "City Car." If you live in rural Thailand? Good choice. In metro BKK? Not so much. And 11km/lt? <gag> You can buy a Suzuki Celerio for about 320K that gets 23km/lt. THAT - is a "city car." Well, live and learn. Erase 100K THB right off the top for your mistake and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaitom Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 The only problem I have with my Ford Ranger is that I can't see when parking, The front end, especially the front left side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post connda Posted April 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, driver52 said: wankpanzer - A pointlessly large and overpowered 4x4 vehicle, usually purchased as a boost to driver's ego who is likely to have some kind of inferiority complex The large trucks and SUV are Status Symbols here in Thailand. Nothing more. They can physically sit higher than other road traffic, drive like bats out of hell, and feel superior. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post idealistic123 Posted April 29, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) The reason why I bought a Pick-Up in the first place is their great value for money compared to regular cars. But you are right. You will develop inferiority complexes if you drive a Pick-Up in Bangkok. Most middle - upper class Thais will either think that you are a farmer or just don't have enough money to afford a decent SUV or Sedan. Pick-Ups are quite far from being a status symbol in Bangkok. Edited April 29, 2023 by Pink Mist A quoted troll post has been removed 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post connda Posted April 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 hour ago, idealistic123 said: Would it make sense to sell the car as fast as possible while it is still on red license plates or should I drive it for a year to take advangtage of the "free" first year of 1st class insurance that came with the car and sell it afterwards? That's a ridiculous reason to keep it. Trade it in for a small city car, take the loss and rack it up to experience, and bask in the enjoyment that your new city car will have red plates and 1 year of free 1st class insurance. That Celerio I recommended comes with 1 year free 1st class insurance too. Just get used to it that your going to take a loss on the truck, but you'll be a wiser person. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 minute ago, idealistic123 said: Pick-Ups are quite far from being a status symbol in Bangkok. Well yeah. The Beamer and Benz and Porche and Lambo crowd will frown on you (although upwards unless their Beamer, Benz, Porche or Lambos are SUV varieties), although the poor working class natives from Isaan working in BKK may think you are rich and hansum. <laughs> This is an entertaining post, but really. Some people need to bash their heads against a wall before they see its a wall and walk around. Best of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 you should also look at the nissan almira, we got one for our daughter a few weeks ago and it is a great car to drive, the top models have all the bells and whistles(all round cameras to make parking very easy), seats are really comfortable, has plenty of power and look good too plus price wise they are a great buy. Most car dealers will organize a trade in but whether or not it is fair to you is another thing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Mist Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Off topic troll posts attempting to hijack the thread to another country have been removed. The OP is: Selling new car after 2 months (Ford Ranger Wildtrak) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 As one member already stated, expect to cope a fair loss, if you happy with it go ahead and sell it, but try to sell it privately first as a dealership will give you much less than a private buyer. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotnar Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) You're concerned about 10k baht worth of insurance, on a 1M baht truck. Just pray you don't lose more than 20% on the trade in, resale of it. Most potential buyer would be concerned with why you are selling, possibly suspecting it got flooded. Good luck Edited April 29, 2023 by Jotnar 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 hour ago, thaitom said: The only problem I have with my Ford Ranger is that I can't see when parking, The front end, especially the front left side. Get a sensor fitted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In the jungle Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 hour ago, connda said: I've never heard a pickup referred to as a "City Car." If you live in rural Thailand? Good choice. In metro BKK? Not so much. And 11km/lt? <gag> You can buy a Suzuki Celerio for about 320K that gets 23km/lt. THAT - is a "city car." Well, live and learn. Erase 100K THB right off the top for your mistake and move on. Fun fact: You can buy four new Suzuki Celerios for the list price of a Wildtrak 4x4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotnar Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 @In the jungle Or an EV, and never pay for petrol again. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted April 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jotnar said: @In the jungle Or an EV, and never pay for petrol again. Yeh, just spend your time looking for a vacant charger................... 2 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauptmannUK Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Around fifteen years ago when my wife was building some properties up in Udon we had a pickup and it was very useful for carrying construction materials etc. Made a lot of sense. Subsequently when I had work in Bangkok and my wife bought a condo in Pattaya driving it became an absolute pain in the rear end. We sold it and bought a Camry, still a large car but vastly more comfortable, better handling and more maneuverable. Last year my wife bought a Yaris and its a great little car for city driving, in fact I prefer it over the Camry - 'small' cars have really come on a long way in the last 15 years or so. Pickups get favourable tax treatment in Thailand so you do get a lot of metal for your money. Also I think many foreigners get pressured into buying them by their Isaan wives (handy on the farm and to carry the extended family in the back). The OP will no doubt lose a bit of money on it - but try a private sale first (FB, BahtSold etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, HauptmannUK said: Around fifteen years ago when my wife was building some properties up in Udon we had a pickup and it was very useful for carrying construction materials etc. Made a lot of sense. Subsequently when I had work in Bangkok and my wife bought a condo in Pattaya driving it became an absolute pain in the rear end. We sold it and bought a Camry, still a large car but vastly more comfortable, better handling and more maneuverable. Last year my wife bought a Yaris and its a great little car for city driving, in fact I prefer it over the Camry - 'small' cars have really come on a long way in the last 15 years or so. Pickups get favourable tax treatment in Thailand so you do get a lot of metal for your money. Also I think many foreigners get pressured into buying them by their Isaan wives (handy on the farm and to carry the extended family in the back). The OP will no doubt lose a bit of money on it - but try a private sale first (FB, BahtSold etc). My Isaan wife has never pressured me over anything, your point is a presumptuous in the extreme regarding buying a pick-up truck....... Though I expect your wife is half Chinese, wiv loads of cash........., most are, it seems............???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 IF it is only the size that concerns you, then don’t worry about it - you’ll get used to it. I’ve driven large SUV’s around Bangkok without issue... I see loads of people driving Toyota Fortuners / Mitsubishi Pajero / Isuzu MUX / Ford Everest etc... they’re all the same size as a pick-up... So the size is certain not an issue. IF you can’t easily get used to the parking - install parking cameras / sensors. IF on the other hand it is an ‘image thing’ rather than a ‘size’ thing.... then you’ll expect to take a fairly significant hit on it... effectively you’ll have paid 20% of someone else’s new pickup !!!... Post a photo on here... and someone may make you a better offer than a tent will... Example pricing here. https://www.one2car.com/en/cars-for-sale/ford/ranger/double-cab-ปี-22-28/2-0-hi-rider-wildtrak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 4 hours ago, idealistic123 said: Possible alternatives would be Mazda CX-30, Honda H-RV or Toyota Corolla Cross. Do these brands offer trades-ins if you buy a new car with them? I’ve tried this twice in the past.... Both times they made a big song and dance about how they were pushing the highest price for me and doing me a huge favour.... ... I burst out laughing when they quoted me the price... at least 30% less than market. So... IMO - just forget about trading in anything with car dealers here. Best price you’ll get for the car is through a private sale: Post on Facebook market place etc. IF you have the newer Facelifted Ranger model... (Square / Box lights) you’ll get plenty of interest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sometime Posted April 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2023 4 hours ago, Henryford said: Why would anyone buy a pick up? unless you are a tradesman. 90% of the pick ups have nothing in the back and during rainy season it must be a problem if you want to carry something. 40% of the truck is useless, plus they handle terribly with all the weight at the front. Some of them have that stupid cramped back seat and half door !! As for putting children in the back OMG. An estate car would be so much better but you see none on the roads (or for sale). Pickup great in the floods, wouldn't drive anything else 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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