Danish study links cannabis abuse to schizophrenia in men

[PETERTHEEATER]

17 minutes ago, 2baht said:

"Who said that?"

My doppellganger.

[bamnutsak]

1 hour ago, bamnutsak said:

No one is saying Cannabis use is without risk.

 

Cannabis abuse needs to be defined.

 

The study in the OP appears to be a less than rigorous, peer reviewed, published scientifc study.

 

More observations....

 

Cannabis does not cause Schizophrenia.

 

If you have been diagnosed with Schizophrenia you should not consume ANY cannabis unless so prescribed by a competent physician.

 

Abuse of any drug/substance is not recommended.

 

The headline of the OP should be modified. "Danish study indicates the abuse of all sorts of stuff can exacerbate the symptoms of Schizophrenia"

 

 

 

[Jingthing]

43 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

Like most substance use, including alcohol it's not the substance but the dose.

Alcohol is very physically addictive.  Weed when addictive is much more psychological. Alcohol is massively more of a threat to public health than  weed.

[stoner]

The new study notes THC levels in cannabis in Denmark has increased from 13% in 2006 to 30% in 2016. Other studies suggest THC levels have increased by more than 200% from 1995 to 2015.

 

and what say ye about terpenes.....which with each passing day we are finding out play a much more vital role than ever thought before. 

 

my friends dad grew bc big bud back in the early 90's and i can be sure it was not under 10 percent thc. the bud was just as sticky and funky as you can get today. i am willing to bet the terpene levels might even of been higher. which changes the whole dynamics. 

 

some strains may actually help reduce the symptoms and link to schizophrenia. thousands of strains and different profiles but lets make a blanket statement that we know for sure there is a link. 

 

too many maybes and hopefuls in this study. there is no where near enough real research yet to say distinctly yes or no. 

 

how many other factors were considered in this study ? were any of the subjects abused as children ? did any come from broken homes ? what about iq and social status ?  soo many questions and factors that can go into developing ones habits. 

 

and what about say....did the study include subjects who consumed a very high cbd and low thc dose ? or how about balanced strains ? 10 percent thc and 10 percent cbd. or even 20. did all 6 million people smoke the same strain ? same source ? 

 

comparing different people with different lives smoking different strains is not very scientific at all. 

 

what about the stress of modern life compared to the 50's  contributing to modern day crazies? any studies done on that ?

 

ps...you might want to take the pic of that weed store down. it could be seen in a negative light and you will get sued for ruining the image of a proud thai company. 

 

Edited May 11, 2023 by stoner

[newbee2022]

I believe this study............

Just look around....neighbours, friends, govt, and people in uniform...

Of course just joking.....????????????

[h90]

13 hours ago, Jingthing said:

So help educate people to use wonderful ganja in moderation.

Sorted.

Yes: Counts for everything.....Everything in excess is harmful ....glass wine at dinner vs. drunk all day every day.....a slice of cake vs. eating sweet and fat all day.

[bamnutsak]

48 minutes ago, h90 said:

Yes: Counts for everything.....Everything in excess is harmful ....glass wine at dinner vs. drunk all day every day.....a slice of cake vs. eating sweet and fat all day.

Yes, common sense, thank you. It's in short supply here.

 

It's like the "OMG modern cannabis is super strong", which is leading to the decline of Civilization. Yesterday's (19xx's) pot was 10% THC, today's is 25% THC. I'm not that bright but I do understand the difference. I'll just smoke less, I mean it's not like cannabis comes in measured containers which I feel I need to drain completely?

 

D'oh.

 

I might drink a pint of beer, that doesn't mean I'm going to drink a pint of Everclear, just because they're both "pints".

 

It's weird that many anti-cannabis advocates here feel the need for exaggeration and hyperbole to make their points. It's as if they know that don't have a good argument so they resort to the extreme.

 

 

 

 

 

[AustinRacing]

6 hours ago, Trippy said:

Weed actually did just that to my first wife. She was so horny after a smoke, she could finish just by humping my leg. 

Lucky devil. 

[transam]

6 hours ago, Trippy said:

Weed actually did just that to my first wife. She was so horny after a smoke, she could finish just by humping my leg. 

You got divorced...................????

[fasteddie]

10 hours ago, BenStark said:

Reflection of hardcore drug users on this forum.

 

covid is a hoax........response AN posters, you want to deny science?

 

Climate change is only about money.............response AN posters, you want to deny science?

 

Cannabis has an increased risk for schizophrenia..............response AN posters, scientists are wrong. Reefer madness

 

[MrMuddle]

On 5/11/2023 at 7:27 AM, Denim said:

Smoked it for 20 years. Never effected me that way. Oh yes it did, stop kidding yourself. What do you know about it ? I was the one smoking . You were always on the bottle. I resent that remark.

About as scientific as the "report"!  lol

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, rice555 said:

Is anyone that posted on this thread in the 21-30 age that the OP's

study is about?

Too much Karen talk.

rice555   at 76

No but I did experience negative effects of Cannabis Use Disrorder in my youth but we didn't have that description back then. 

I think cannabis should be legalized everywhere but I recognize it can be abused and is especially not great for youth. 

[ThaiFelix]

On 5/11/2023 at 10:00 AM, BenStark said:

Reflection of hardcore drug users on this forum.

 

covid is a hoax........response AN posters, you want to deny science?

 

Climate change is only about money.............response AN posters, you want to deny science?

 

Cannabis has an increased risk for schizophrenia..............response AN posters, scientists are wrong. Reefer madness

Are you by any chance using Reefer Madness as a source?  Damn funny!

Edited May 13, 2023 by ThaiFelix
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[Pink Mist]

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[MrMuddle]

Been out with a few schizophrenic women, particularly at "that" time of the month, absolutely no Cannabis involved! lol

[balo]

I am more worried about people driving under the influence of any drugs , you need to have a clear mind and react quickly to any situation out in the traffic.  


 

[freedomnow]

My friend went like that late 90s when the skunk came in more to UK...

He was off his rocker most of time on it.

...and another guy spings to mind early 90s got put in the loony bin though that was combo of acid/hash and chronic.

 

It can definitely magnify schizoid/schizotypal negative traits too I'd say - knowing 2 on that end of the spectrum..

 

 

If it's there latent or at a low level in a person - I agree it can get quite magnified with chronic use of da weed...especially the sativa stuff...and strooong hashish....

 

Though I'm not against the stuff and its an adult choice...I just think there's a bit of 1-sided bias that it does no wrong - for those it does no wrong to/with...

Edited May 16, 2023 by freedomnow

[stoner]

2 hours ago, freedomnow said:

and another guy spings to mind early 90s got put in the loony bin though that was combo of acid/hash and chronic.

your friend was dropping acid and you blame it on weed ? too rich. 

 

2 hours ago, freedomnow said:

Though I'm not against the stuff and its an adult choice...I just think there's a bit of 1-sided bias that it does no wrong - for those it does no wrong to/with...

no one is saying it does no wrong. 

[freedomnow]

9 hours ago, stoner said:

your friend was dropping acid and you blame it on weed ? too rich. 

 

no one is saying it does no wrong. 

Oh yes, well done.

 

On point as always.

 

Almost knew you or 'nonutsack' would chime in.

[JoseThailand]

Well, listen to anyone high on weed talk, it's not much different from a schizophrenic's talk.

[freedomnow]

@stoner I did say 'combo'....a bad trip followed by a chronic dive into weed vs getting grounded straight can be all it takes for some to reach a tipping point.

 

There just seemed to be a mono perspective echo chamber over at the the 'weed bar thread' that the stuff can do no wrong when anything negative 'side effects' comes up.

 

Am still against it being illegal and FOR the right of others to choose what they ingest. There is just a certain sub-section of personality types that in may send a bit looney quite quickly with higher dose sativa.

[stoner]

26 minutes ago, freedomnow said:

There just seemed to be a mono perspective echo chamber over at the the 'weed bar thread' that the stuff can do no wrong when anything negative 'side effects' comes up.

that's fine. but you should keep people like you acid taking friend out of the conversation. no place for that. 

 

you want to discuss positive and negative about cannabis ok....just leave the hard drug users out of the discussion. it changes everything. 

 

 

[freedomnow]

1 minute ago, stoner said:

you want to discuss positive and negative about cannabis ok....just leave the hard drug users out of the discussion. it changes everything.

Sir, yes sir ! I'll do and say what I want within the rule framework of the forum. THANK YOU.

In certain contexts - using cannabis can tip a person over the edge is what I'm saying to be clear.

 

Actually, your so-called 'HARD drugs"... it just opens up another debate - seeing as MDMA and psilocybin are moving strongly forward as psychotherapeutic tools now.

 

The stamets stack being used for depression for one.

[stoner]

1 minute ago, freedomnow said:

Actually, your so-called 'HARD drugs"... it just opens up another debate - seeing as MDMA and psilocybin are moving strongly forward as psychotherapeutic tools now.

maybe you should micro dose and cheer up for 6 months then. lets pretend that the regular hard core drug user as i said is in any way comparable to a clinically made doctor approved and monitored dosage of mdma. 

 

your friend was tipping baws for medical purposes got it. :)

 

[freedomnow]

11 minutes ago, stoner said:

maybe you should micro dose and cheer up for 6 months then. lets pretend that the regular hard core drug user as i said is in any way comparable to a clinically made doctor approved and monitored dosage of mdma. 

 

your friend was tipping baws for medical purposes got it. ????

 

I'm cheered up well and fine....THANK YOU.

[Hummin]

On 5/11/2023 at 1:50 AM, lom said:

There ain't any "appears" in a proper scientific study.

I suggest you read the original study instead of the article based on the study.