Divorse or not.

[Yellowtail]

Wind up

[dingdongrb]

5 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

And because she doesn't want to that's it?

What other choice is there?

 

I have a similar situation. We were married in the USA and never registered the marriage here in Thailand. My understanding is, in order to get a divorce we would need to first register our marriage here in Thailand. My wife will not register our marriage here. 

 

So please tell me how I'm supposed to get a divorce....

[Liverpool Lou]

20 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

21 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

I agree about the divorce part but personal debts incurred solely by her would not become his liability if they were not in any way for joint or family purposes.

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Are you sure you would want to argue about that in Thai court?

Whether I'd want to argue about it in court is beside the point, the fact is that her personal debts, incurred solely by her, would not become his liability if they were not in any way for joint or family purposes.

[Skallywag]

On 6/18/2023 at 3:52 PM, dingdongrb said:

What other choice is there?

 

I have a similar situation. We were married in the USA and never registered the marriage here in Thailand. My understanding is, in order to get a divorce we would need to first register our marriage here in Thailand. My wife will not register our marriage here. 

 

So please tell me how I'm supposed to get a divorce....

Maybe go back to the USA and after a year file for divorce under abandonment?   

Wife would have to stay in Thailand for the year.

Have you talked to a lawyer in the USA? 

Interesting, never heard you have to register marriage in Thailand before a divorce in the USA

[Mac Mickmanus]

On 6/17/2023 at 5:31 AM, rutteketuut said:

she drinks Lao Khao and is always drunk.

If she's drinking large amounts of Lao Khao , then she will have a short life expectancy , many people are dead within three years of daily drinking that stuff

[fredwiggy]

You're looking for others to give you advice on something you already know the answer to, and no one here feels or understands what you do. If this woman treats you well, and isn't causing your family a lot of money , you have to decide for yourself if this is what you want for the rest of your life together. A lot will tell you to leave because women have hurt them in some way and divorce is the easy way out, especially if you have no children, and the property means little. You do only live once, and if you came here asking others what to do, you're looking in the wrong place for a answer. A person who drinks a lot is either suffering from depression,  the drinking has become a habit for a long time, either because of that depression or abuse in their earlier life, or starting out young and drinking with friends to fit in (most of us). Either way, it's a habit for her and she only feels right when she is stoned. Substituting one drug for another can work, as one mentioned about weed, because at least with weed you won't drink drunk,and are usually mellow and in control, but it's still swapping one habit for another. trying to get her into AA here is probably impossible, and if she has friends that she drinks with, you can't get rid of them or she will be mad at you, and that won't stop the drinking anyway. You only can give her an ultimatum, stop or you have to go. I love you, but I can't see you this way, we don't do anything together because you're always wasted, and it's going to kill you eventually, although it can take a long time. Life IS way too short, and she can only help herself. You can give her a push, but she has to do this herself. As far as the divorcing, if  by Thai law, meaning you went to the US embassy, them amphur, you registered it, meaning the US will recognize this as a legal marriage, so you wouldn't be able to marry again until you finished this one here. Of course, if you have no intention to marry again, I guess you could just leave, because there isn't any alimony here, and you have no children to pay for. Think of what YOU really NEED, then decide, after talking to her when she is sober, what she will or won't do.

[dingdongrb]

34 minutes ago, Skallywag said:

Maybe go back to the USA and after a year file for divorce under abandonment?   

Wife would have to stay in Thailand for the year.

Have you talked to a lawyer in the USA? 

Interesting, never heard you have to register marriage in Thailand before a divorce in the USA

I don't want to go back to the USA and create a residence there just in order to get a divorce. I have spoken to a couple different divorce attorneys both here in Thailand and the USA. The easiest and quickest way to get a divorce (uncontested) is to get one here in Thailand but in order to do that the marriage needs to be registered here.

 

I never said anything about needing to register the marriage here in order to get a divorce in the USA, you were making assumptions.

[ThaiLawOnline]

There are two ways to divorce in Thailand:

 

a) Mutual consent. You talk to her and if she agrees, you both go to amphur. I recommend a divorce agreement in Thai and English but you decide.

 

b) If she does NOT agree to divorce, you must go to court. It takes about 6 months and you must have a ground. If you have a witness with you and can show by video and pictures that she REALY drinks a lot, you might get a divorce under this clause:

 

Section 1516 (6) one spouse has failed to give proper maintenance and support to the other, or committed acts seriously adverse to the relationship of husband and wife to such an extent that the other has been in excessive trouble where the condition, position and cohabitation as husband and wife are taking into consideration, the latter may enter a claim for divorce;

 

But we need strong proof to show that you can't continue anymore. The judges will check if you have children together and if not, what is common property. But if you do not wish any property, you can give it all to her. But as a NEGOTIATION TOOL to make her SIGN, I would tell her that "you will divorce in Court and ask 50% of the property, unless she agrees to divorce at the amphur and if so, you will ask NOTHING and give her the house. " After 16 years of divorcing expats in Thailand, if you give her money each month, she might refuse. So stop giving her money and you will see that soon, she might accept. You can also pack your things and go ANYWHERE in Thailand, if you can do an extension based on retirement it would be great, DO NOT SEND ANY MONEY TO HER, DO NOT COME BACK TO LEAVE WITH HER, and divorce her 3 years later based on 3 years of separation. Sending her money is like not being completely separated.

 

Many couples use this section to divorce and there are more and more supreme court decisions on it. Right now, the judges are quite open about divorce if the couples really cannot live together.  It is not like 10 years ago when they really follow the books and it was more difficult. They are doing the same as western countries but they still have a divorce with "fault" when most western countries is a "no fault divorce". So as long as you are married, do not get caught with a girlfriend as she can sue you for that, with damages, and also the girlfriend.

 

I would never stay with someone that does not give me happiness and some kind of joy. Life is too short.

 

Sebastien.

[mania]

On 6/17/2023 at 6:36 PM, spidermike007 said:

We don’t stop playing because we grow old. We grow old because we stop playing.

Nice ????

[SAFETY FIRST]

On 6/17/2023 at 11:31 AM, rutteketuut said:

drinks Lao Khao and is always drunk

Offload her.

 

Bring her down to Pattaya.

She sounds like a perfect match for many of the foreigners on Soi Buakhao. ????

 

[GaiwanAddict]

My ex-wife also drinks a lot. Unfortunately, it never stopped. My new wife drinks a maximum of 1 beer per month. The relationship is going great and I'm glad I ended the old relationship. Good luck!