Go-go Bar Guards on Pattaya Walking Street Allegedly Attack Russian Man Who Refused to Pay His Bill

[BarraMarra]

  On 6/19/2023 at 6:26 AM, Eaglekott said:

Actually the Security guards tried to protect him form the other foreigners attacking him according to the update.

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Well thats a first

[sikishrory]

Check bin after every drink is a good rule of thumb.

They stop pestering you for drinks as well when they think you're paid up about to leave

[kennypowers]

Bouncer throwing the punch doesn't look Thai from the pictures?

 

It doesn't matter if he refused to pay his bill. If he was causing a nuisance then call the police. There is no excuse to just start caving someone's head in. He likely just questioned the bill and saw drinks on there he didn't have, as happens every night in these hellholes.

 

This kind of steroid head is just waiting for any excuse to hit someone and prove he is a hard man, when in truth most of them are weak without the juice. And even then, if they come up against someone who can box or grapple they are quickly exposed. I trust the Thai police will press charges for assault (they won't, of course). 

[Jack james]

  On 6/18/2023 at 11:49 PM, TheFishman1 said:

What most people don’t realize is that these places are allowed to get away with these scams due to either or the police have a big interest in them or these establishments pay the police every month to do what they want when I first got here many years ago, I was sitting next to a gentleman from England and he told the bartender that one is Bill got the 6000 just stop giving drinks and he wanted to pay his bill when the bartender then gave him a bill for over 12,000 is instantly surrounded by all the cards at the bar it was made to Totally scam. TIT.

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What english are you  using? Confusing sentence

[cowellandrew]

  On 6/19/2023 at 6:03 AM, scubascuba3 said:

Quite right, misunderstandings do happen as does bill padding

 

and mistakes, i was in Windmill a few months a go ordered my first draft beer 90 baht, bill came 10 beers 900 baht, service girl eyes nearly popped out when i showed her, instantly got it removed

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I blame  Don Quixote

[Liverpool Lou]

  On 6/18/2023 at 9:42 PM, JensenZ said:

You do realise people get drunk and lose track of how much they ordered and the cost thereof? They often prey on drunk customers, adding significant amounts to their tabs.

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His bill was B1,975, that's all.

[Liverpool Lou]

  On 6/18/2023 at 11:49 PM, TheFishman1 said:

What most people don’t realize is that these places are allowed to get away with these scams due to either or the police have a big interest in them or these establishments pay the police every month to do what they want when I first got here many years ago, I was sitting next to a gentleman from England and he told the bartender that one is Bill got the 6000 just stop giving drinks and he wanted to pay his bill when the bartender then gave him a bill for over 12,000 is instantly surrounded by all the cards at the bar it was made to Totally scam. TIT.

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This man's bill was B1,975.

[Liverpool Lou]

Although it has already been posted here, so many posters keep going on about padded bills, bell ringing, violent security and, bizarrely, draft-avoiding Russians, et al, it turns out that he wasn't attacked by security, he was attacked by foreign men, the guards were trying to break it up.   That's going to spoil the day for everyone here who was having an unjustified go at the bar by suggesting his small bill was padded and that security guards are just thugs!   Unless they continue to ignore the reported facts and keep up their inane (in the context of this thread) rants.

https://thepattayanews.com/2023/06/19/update-cctv-reveals-russian-tourist-in-pattaya-got-attacked-by-another-foreigner-not-go-go-bar-guards/

[berrec]

He was aided by Pattaya Police after he was allegedly attacked by 2-3 guards of an unidentified go-go bar on Pattaya Walking Street at 3:30 AM today.

 

Sure, pull this one, it squeaks.

 

The only reason it's unidentified is 

[rwill]

No matter what they shouldn't be allowed to beat someone unless they start fighting first.  They should be trained to detain them and call the police.

[jacko45k]

  On 6/19/2023 at 6:03 AM, scubascuba3 said:

Quite right, misunderstandings do happen as does bill padding

 

and mistakes, i was in Windmill a few months a go ordered my first draft beer 90 baht, bill came 10 beers 900 baht, service girl eyes nearly popped out when i showed her, instantly got it removed

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Not exactly trivial... had it been a bottle it could have caused a panic attack!

[KhunBENQ]

  On 6/19/2023 at 10:10 AM, Liverpool Lou said:

This man's bill was B1,975.

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Which ridicules all the "rip off Gogo" posts.

 

  On 6/19/2023 at 10:37 AM, rwill said:

No matter what they shouldn't be allowed to beat someone unless they start fighting first.  They should be trained to detain them and call the police.

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Deescalation is not exactly their style.

On the other hand they will not start a fight for just words.

The article said that the Russian tried to fight/push his way out.

That is not a good idea.

Getting physical in any way is plain stupid.

 

The one and only case where my bill was padded I got somewhat angry but didn't get up from my seat and told them to call the police. Mamasan taking the position of the stupid waitress without even checking what has happened.

In the end another waitress confirmed that my bill was +1 from another group.

Last visit to this bar.

 

[chalawaan]

  On 6/19/2023 at 10:10 AM, Liverpool Lou said:

This man's bill was B1,975.

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A lightweight, I've paid 6K that at a hi-so winebar in better days, it was wais all round. 

And cheaper in the long run than what this guy's put himself though. 

[JensenZ]

  On 6/19/2023 at 10:02 AM, Liverpool Lou said:

His bill was B1,975, that's all.

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This conversation has become more general in nature. Even so, 2000 baht could be a big bill for some, especially if they didn't order many drinks.

[MrJ2U]

  On 6/19/2023 at 5:55 AM, captpkapoor said:

my friend's wife said she wasn't comfortable in such a place.

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Sounds like a falang hooty toity.

 

Dump her. 

[patman30]

  On 6/19/2023 at 7:02 AM, bradiston said:

Er, hello? He died in a hospital in Wales? Any links to this bizarre story?

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how hard is it to copy and paste some text in google?

seems like he was trying to get away from 3 Guards
once he hit the ground they didn'y seem concerned about any payment
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7636021/Shocking-moment-retired-army-major-55-floored-fatal-punch.html

[StayinThailand2much]

  On 6/18/2023 at 11:10 PM, HappyExpat57 said:

And I've been a Walking Street patron for years, have NEVER had a problem. I do check my bin every time they refresh it with a new round of drinks, so maybe they know I'm keeping my eyes on it?

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Same here. It's common sense to keep an eye on one's bill. Never had a problem in Pattaya. Only time I had in Thailand was at an upstairs bar in Patpong many years ago, where they tried to charge me 3x the price of a beer. (When I wanted to pay, suddenly lights went on, exposing a sign that earlier was not visible about 'drinks actually costing 3x the announced price'...) - I just complained, paid the originally billed price, and left.

[Reigntax]

He probably thought is was a Ukraine bar where he could just walk in take what he wanted and walk out 

[Boycie]

CCTV footage af 23 seconds.

 

 

[Alex2554]

  On 6/19/2023 at 7:02 AM, bradiston said:

Er, hello? He died in a hospital in Wales? Any links to this bizarre story?

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https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/mike-jones-mathias-death-thailand-17177679.amp

[Seppius]

You can tell what bar it is now, from the video

[still kicking]

  On 6/18/2023 at 11:04 PM, hotchilli said:

That's all Pattaya is about, that and the girls.

Forget the family friendly bit.

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Nonsense, I have friends in Pattaya they are all lovely people most of them work at the Hilton and one got her own hair saloon. 

[bradiston]

  On 6/19/2023 at 4:13 PM, Alex2554 said:

 

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/mike-jones-mathias-death-thailand-17177679.amp

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What's this got to do with the OP? A retired army major gets beaten up in Walking Street? Dies in Wales?

[FarangJon]

Honey but no money bro?

[Pink Mist]

A troll post has been reported and removed.

[Liverpool Lou]

  On 6/19/2023 at 10:37 AM, rwill said:

No matter what they shouldn't be allowed to beat someone unless they start fighting first.  They should be trained to detain them and call the police.

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Try reading the thread about what actually happened, the guards, apparently, did not beat anyone, fellow foreigners did that, the guards were trying to break it up and protect him.

[Liverpool Lou]

  On 6/19/2023 at 12:53 PM, JensenZ said:

  On 6/19/2023 at 10:02 AM, Liverpool Lou said:

His bill was B1,975, that's all.

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This conversation has become more general in nature.

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My comment was specific, it was not a generalisation.

[Mr Meeseeks]

  On 6/19/2023 at 12:36 AM, Kerryd said:

I've been going to go-go bars in Thailand since 1993 and I've spent a sh*tload of money in them over the years and only once did I ever have an issue with a drink or bill.
But then again, I kept track of my bills, was friendly with the staff and never got so drunk that I could barely stand or was puking in the streets. 
When I was making "war zone money", a 4,500 baht bar bill in a go-go was a "quiet" night.

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I was a regular in Soi Cowboy for over 20 years. And I mean regular. If I go down the street now guaranteed someone will still recognise me from back then.

 

The only time I remember being really ripped off was after I had stopped going there every night. I was going through a bad period in my life and went out with a mate who also lived in Bangkok. We ended up in the bar next to Long Gun, named after a famous Western TV show.

 

I let my guard down thinking I was in a 'friendly' bar as I knew the owner and I fell asleep in the front row. My mate left me sitting there too and disappeared. 

 

I woke up at 3am in an empty bar with a 5k bar bill. I was a wee bit drunk but not that much that I would have been buying tequilas for the girls as I very rarely do that unless I know them!

 

Furthermore, I queried the bill and refused to pay. Not going to go into details, but I was handcuffed to a table because I just tried to leave. The Police were called.

 

The girl behind the ramp knew me and said that the girls must have just been ordering drinks on my tab. I checked the bill and there was one beer on the bill and the rest shots and tequilas. I said why only one beer, I was in there for 3+ hours asleep?!? She pretty much admitted that I got diddled.

 

Police arrived and forced me to pay the 5k. They were sympathetic though, and obviously they were used to this type of thing happening.

[Pink Mist]

An off topic personal attack has been removed.

[JensenZ]

  On 6/20/2023 at 3:07 AM, Liverpool Lou said:

My comment was specific, it was not a generalisation.

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Understood, but mine was not as many here had been discussing at length the general padding of bills.