Wagner chief's 24 hours of chaos in Russia

[Social Media]

 

For one long June night and a day, Russia's notorious mercenary leader Yevgeny Prigozhin staged an apparent insurrection, sending an armoured convoy towards Moscow and raising questions about Vladimir Putin's grip on power.

The Russian president even accused his former ally of treason, embarking on an armed rebellion and "a stab in the back of our country".

But by the end of Saturday, Prigozhin had called the whole thing off and ordered his men back to base.

"In 24 hours we got to within 200km (124 miles) of Moscow. In this time we did not spill a single drop of our fighters' blood," he announced.

Twenty-four hours of mayhem, and so much we don't know.

Was the Wagner boss planning a coup?

Prigozhin was adamant this was "a march for justice", not a coup. Whatever it was, it came to an end very fast.

 

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[Tug]

He’s a dead man walking and that’s fine by me,however I do hope he continues to tell the Russian people that their war was started on falsehoods it also makes Putin look weak hopefully Ukraine ???????? can exploit this!

[Kwasaki]

2 hours ago, Social Media said:

Prigozhin was adamant this was "a march for justice", not a coup. 

Poison being sent to Belarus. 

[Chomper Higgot]

Putin’s live broadcast statement in response was telling.

 

The themes and rhetoric could very easily have been mistaken as having been scripted by a well known fascist.

 

 

[billd766]

2 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Poison being sent to Belarus. 

The good news is that by sending the Wagner group to Belarus, Putin is weakening the Russian forces in the Ukraine.

 

Putin now knows that his position is no longer safe.

[Kwasaki]

26 minutes ago, billd766 said:

The good news is that by sending the Wagner group to Belarus, Putin is weakening the Russian forces in the Ukraine.

 

Putin now knows that his position is no longer safe.

Yeah whatever Bill the main thing is the sooner Putin goes and whoever next takes over puts a stop to the war the sooner the better.

 

[billd766]

18 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Yeah whatever Bill the main thing is the sooner Putin goes and whoever next takes over puts a stop to the war the sooner the better.

 

I suppose a lot will depend on who takes over from Putin, if they are willing to end the war, leave ALL Russian occupied Ukraine, return all the Ukrainian children, families, POWs etc taken to Russia.

 

Sadly they cannot bring the dead of either side back to life

 

Russia will have to be prepared to rebuild the Ukraine and also surrender to the Hague all those, including Putin, accused of was crimes, where IMHO they will get a fair trial.

 

Whoever it may be has to be strong enough to be able to do all that and hopefully hold the Russian States together as well.

 

There will be a very big pair of boots to fill for whoever it may be.

 

From the EU and the NATO side, they will have to control President Zelensky and the Ukraine, and perhaps temper their demands into reality.

 

Another set of big boots to fill. 

 

Hopefully most of the politicians of all stripes, can be kept away from any deal.

[scubascuba3]

Yesterday was hoping the Wagner group would bring down Putin and bring an end to the war, i reckon Russian soldiers were hoping the same, appeared to be a delay in what action they should take

[ozimoron]

A BBC commentator was saying that similar failed rebellions in Russia have portended bad outcomes in the past, such as one before the collapse of the soviet union.

 

It's possible that we may soon see a black swan event which will propel the price of gold to new highs very quickly. It's just a thought.

[Kwasaki]

3 hours ago, billd766 said:

I suppose a lot will depend on who takes over from Putin, if they are willing to end the war, leave ALL Russian occupied Ukraine, return all the Ukrainian children, families, POWs etc taken to Russia.

 

Sadly they cannot bring the dead of either side back to life

 

Russia will have to be prepared to rebuild the Ukraine and also surrender to the Hague all those, including Putin, accused of was crimes, where IMHO they will get a fair trial.

 

Whoever it may be has to be strong enough to be able to do all that and hopefully hold the Russian States together as well.

 

There will be a very big pair of boots to fill for whoever it may be.

 

From the EU and the NATO side, they will have to control President Zelensky and the Ukraine, and perhaps temper their demands into reality.

 

Another set of big boots to fill. 

 

Hopefully most of the politicians of all stripes, can be kept away from any deal.

Hope would be IMHO a reasonable negotiating FSB.

[Kwasaki]

3 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Yesterday was hoping the Wagner group would bring down Putin and bring an end to the war, i reckon Russian soldiers were hoping the same, appeared to be a delay in what action they should take

Media hype as usual resulting in nowt.

[zzaa09]

2 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Media hype as usual resulting in nowt.

Media distraction. 

[Kwasaki]

4 minutes ago, zzaa09 said:

Media distraction. 

Media desperation. ????

[stevenl]

10 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Media hype as usual resulting in nowt.

I don't think the media hyped anything. I read and saw continuously 'nobody knows exactly what is happening and how it will play out'. 

[scubascuba3]

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

I don't think the media hyped anything. I read and saw continuously 'nobody knows exactly what is happening and how it will play out'. 

Kwasaki still thinks Putin is on a peace keeping mission ????

[Hummin]

3 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Kwasaki still thinks Putin is on a peace keeping mission ????

Putin want a place in history making his country grat again! 

 

"Make Russia Great Again"

[Kwasaki]

7 minutes ago, stevenl said:

I don't think the media hyped anything. I read and saw continuously 'nobody knows exactly what is happening and how it will play out'. 

Exactly media were blowing it out of proportion.

[Hummin]

14 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Exactly media were blowing it out of proportion.

25000 men threatening to invade Moscow? Im sure the whole worlds leaders watching, Usa and Nato members  ready to step up the game and move in to Ukraine.

Edited June 25, 2023 by Hummin

[Kwasaki]

7 minutes ago, Hummin said:

25000 men threatening to invade Moscow? Im sure the whole worlds leaders watching, Usa and Nato ready to step up the game and move in to Ukraine.

Well wakna now going to attack Ukraine from Belarus without Belarus soldiers getting involved maybe is the deal.

[ozimoron]

9 minutes ago, Hummin said:

25000 men threatening to invade Moscow? Im sure the whole worlds leaders watching, Usa and Nato ready to step up the game and move in to Ukraine.

Poland has said it's willing to lead troops into Ukraine, presumably along the northern border with Belarus. 

[Hummin]

1 minute ago, Kwasaki said:

Well wakna now going to attack Ukraine from Belarus without Belarus soldiers getting involved maybe is the deal.

All we can do is speculating next scenario! Hopefully Russia collaps and being disarmed of Nukes. A long shot thow 

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

All we can do is speculating next scenario! Hopefully Russia collaps and being disarmed of Nukes. A long shot thow 

Russia's smartest move would be to replace Putin with an actual democracy, decommission its nuclear stockpile and join the EU.

[Hummin]

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

Poland has said it's willing to lead troops into Ukraine, presumably along the northern border with Belarus. 

When it happens it is real, not before. 

[Neeranam]

10 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Poland has said it's willing to lead troops into Ukraine, presumably along the northern border with Belarus. 

I work with many Poles, they love Ukraine, not sure why. 

[Hummin]

4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Russia's smartest move would be to replace Putin with an actual democracy, decommission its nuclear stockpile and join the EU.

It will never happens in near future. Russians mentality prevents any form of democracy!

 

Afterplay of Gladnost should be a clear proof, and Putin as their savior. 

[Hummin]

2 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I work with many Poles, they love Ukraine, not sure why. 

Read their common history with Lenin, and you will understand their brotherhood feeling, and not to forget their long history with changing borders, Rus, and Mongols history. Bond of thousands of years.

Edited June 25, 2023 by Hummin

[billd766]

51 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Hope would be IMHO a reasonable negotiating FSB.

Unfortunately hope does not feed empty bellies, rebuild infrastructure, bring back children kidnapped and taken to Russia, homes and possessions stolen and destroyed or bring back the dead on BOTH sides.

 

This is all down to one person, Putin.

[billd766]

39 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Putin want a place in history making his country grat again! 

 

"Make Russia Great Again"

Well he has his place in history but not for that reason.

[Tug]

23 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Putin want a place in history making his country grat again! 

 

"Make Russia Great Again"

Kinda reminds me of J6 except the wagners are trained war criminals armed to the teeth have seen their comrades slaughtered they’re angry and coming for you!yeiks!oh did i forget to mention they’re all felons to!

[Chomper Higgot]

39 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Exactly media were blowing it out of proportion.

Well of course, a heavily armed mercenary army leaving its barracks and heading to within 200Km of Moscow is the ‘media blowing it out of all proportion’.