Srikcir Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 13 hours ago, snoop1130 said: the Thai government has already prepared plans to handle the situation, Is this why among other reasons the RTP has yet to implement the Prevention and Suppression of Torture and Enforced Dissapearance Act of 2022? RTP says it lacks the money, training, equipment and guidelines to implement the law. You know, like it seems with all the other laws RTP is supposed to enforce. Just as an aside, the RTP is under the supervision ofthe National Police Commission chaired by PM Prayut. 1 1
Popular Post billd766 Posted August 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 9, 2023 6 hours ago, bamnutsak said: AFAIK, only one person can provide a Pardon. Justifying a Pardon for a single individual, who was portrayed as an enemy of the state, will require threading a needle. Yet if you lead a military coup you can write your own amnesty 2 1
Popular Post Srikcir Posted August 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 9, 2023 9 hours ago, scorecard said: by a legitinate court (no folks it wasn't a military kangaroo court Convicted in absentia. Provision in the new Organic Act on Criminal Procedure for Holders of Political Positions of 2017 passed by a pro-junta Parliament that allows trials in absentia. Sounds more like a Jester court than a kangaroo court. 2 1 1
kimamey Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 2 hours ago, MrMojoRisin said: The military are neutered. Yesterday’s heroes. Done and dusted. I think they still have weapons. I seem to remember before the last coup some saying it wouldn't happen as a lot of the actual soldiers are from red shirt areas so wouldn't get involved. The water melon army, green on the outside but red on the inside. That didn't work out. 1
khunPer Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 All are equal, but some are more equal than others... 2
Roel Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 It's quite amusing how whenever corrupt politicians are caught in the act, with clear evidence of their wrongdoing, they quickly begin to cry out that the accusations and/or legal actions against them are driven by political motives. Unfortunately it often works. 1
MrMojoRisin Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 1 hour ago, bannork said: From the poster who excitedly proclaimed Thaksin was coming back on his birthday. What happened there, Jim? And on the 10th, announced by his daughter. Tomorrow! That doc appointment didn't stop him and sis going to see the dictator Hun Sen. I bet they felt right at home there Wissanu said in Thai ขอว่าอย่า which translates as "Please don't '' or "I'm asking you to not....'' He wasn't begging Thaksin, rather, I think, he was playing down Thaksin's significance. ' Hey, come whenever you like, everything's ready, just don't come on public holidays, it'll be a hassle.' The date of his return is imminent. Perhaps days, maybe weeks, possibly months, nevertheless, it’s happening. The man is back, centre stage and there he’ll stay until MF finish him off. Don't be surprised if he shows up on a weekend just to rub salt into the losers wounds. 1 1
MrMojoRisin Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 44 minutes ago, Roel said: It's quite amusing how whenever corrupt politicians are caught in the act, with clear evidence of their wrongdoing, they quickly begin to cry out that the accusations and/or legal actions against them are driven by political motives. Unfortunately it often works. Clear evidence? 1
MrMojoRisin Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 55 minutes ago, kimamey said: I think they still have weapons. I seem to remember before the last coup some saying it wouldn't happen as a lot of the actual soldiers are from red shirt areas so wouldn't get involved. The water melon army, green on the outside but red on the inside. That didn't work out. What good are guns if you can’t use them?
kimamey Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said: What good are guns if you can’t use them? I'm sure they can but three threat is often enough. If the military decide on a coup, and there's no suggestion yet that they will, but if they want to they've got a lot of experience.
MrMojoRisin Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, kimamey said: I'm sure they can but three threat is often enough. If the military decide on a coup, and there's no suggestion yet that they will, but if they want to they've got a lot of experience. A lot of past experience with an uninformed and obedient public - neither of those descriptions still apply, particularly when it comes to the youth (an ever increasing demographic). If they could get away with a military coup, it would have already happened. Nowadays, Thaksin is their only hope to slow down the inevitable. A failed coup would ensure that the elites are upended root and branch as their last bargaining chip - a non violent transition, would no longer be an option. These cowards are too afraid to go all in on a certain loss. 1
scorecard Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 2 hours ago, MrMojoRisin said: The date of his return is imminent. Perhaps days, maybe weeks, possibly months, nevertheless, it’s happening. The man is back, centre stage and there he’ll stay until MF finish him off. Don't be surprised if he shows up on a weekend just to rub salt into the losers wounds. Boring comment... 2
Dialemco Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 Will he still be deputy PM when new Government formulated?
MrMojoRisin Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 5 hours ago, Scouse123 said: Show me what is nonsense in any of the above post or what is not true You made a statement, back it up. All of it.
Popular Post NanLaew Posted August 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 9, 2023 13 hours ago, scorecard said: Given that he was an 'elected' PM and then convicted and sentenced to jail on several cases by a legitinate court (no folks it wasn't a military kangaroo court) However, he was democraticaly elected and the court was under the control of the usual influence peddlers. 1 2
Popular Post geisha Posted August 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 9, 2023 14 hours ago, scorecard said: I feel that the country is being put through a lot of unnecesary frustration and pain by a convicted egomanian criminal, who believes he's entitled to a speial deal. When right now the country has serious complex problems trying to get a PM elected and seated. But then we don't know what the paymasters game plan is, without doubt it will be a plan to get him into a position of authority. Thailands trump syndrome. Given that he was an 'elected' PM and then convicted and sentenced to jail on several cases by a legitinate court (no folks it wasn't a military kangaroo court) I wonder what the Thai law says about running for office / holding any future political / bureaucratic positions in the future. There is a precedent with manarat who did several years time in an OZ jail and prayut claimed 'it wasn't in Thailand so it was nor relevant. A big difference is that the paymaster was a sitting PM in Thailand when he committeed serious offence. It is not Thaksins fault that there is a problem with the new government ! It’s the Thai people who have been robbed of their choice . Thaksin a criminal ? He’s just like the present government, come to think of it, he’s much better than the present government that has practically ruined the country. Personally, I’d rather Thaksin than the other gang of thieves, one of which is a real bonafide criminal. 1 1 1
bannork Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 4 hours ago, MrMojoRisin said: The date of his return is ps days, maybe weeks, possibly months, nevertheless, it’s happening. The man is back, centre stage and there he’ll stay until MF finish him off. Don't be surprised if he shows up on a weekend just to rub salt into the losers wounds. I like your flexible use of English, Jim. 'Imminent' can mean months, lol Thaksin has always been back, backing his minions through his family. A typical old fashioned political clan. Only he daren't come back, afraid the door will slam shut on him or worse . 20 times already, Jim
observer90210 Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 What about the Redbull Heir and the police manslaughter case ?
MrMojoRisin Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 36 minutes ago, bannork said: I like your flexible use of English, Jim. 'Imminent' can mean months, lol Thaksin has always been back, backing his minions through his family. A typical old fashioned political clan. Only he daren't come back, afraid the door will slam shut on him or worse . 20 times already, Jim He’s been out of the country for 17 years. 99% of his exile is over. He’ll be home soon enough, most likely within weeks (an imminent timeframe when measured against the aforementioned 17 years) all dependent, of course, upon how the PM voting plays out in the coming days. Do you think the many many Thais scattered across the globe in self imposed exile to avoid political persecution are wrong to be afraid of what awaits them whilst Thailand remains under junta rule? 1
Scouse123 Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 2 hours ago, MrMojoRisin said: All of it. What a poor response to a post when you cannot find anything that is untrue. I make that Game, set and match.
bannork Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 29 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said: He’s been out of the country for 17 years. 99% of his exile is over. He’ll be home soon enough, most likely within weeks (an imminent timeframe when measured against the aforementioned 17 years) all dependent, of course, upon how the PM voting plays out in the coming days. Do you think the many many Thais scattered across the globe in self imposed exile to avoid political persecution are wrong to be afraid of what awaits them whilst Thailand remains under juolfnta rule? They're not wrong but they don't keep announcing they're coming home. Can only cry wolf so many times
billd766 Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 7 hours ago, kimamey said: I think they still have weapons. I seem to remember before the last coup some saying it wouldn't happen as a lot of the actual soldiers are from red shirt areas so wouldn't get involved. The water melon army, green on the outside but red on the inside. That didn't work out. That was at the last election when the cheating and lying were not so obvious. It was also during the time when there were more older yellow shirts and rabid royalists. Many of them have died off, but many more youths are around demanding a change. The military was also a bit more popular, plus the thin skinned and boneheaded senators were not around either.
billd766 Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 4 hours ago, scorecard said: Boring comment... But not to everybody.
MrMojoRisin Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 49 minutes ago, Scouse123 said: What a poor response to a post when you cannot find anything that is untrue. I make that Game, set and match. ...when you cannot find anything that is untrue. 1
Dogmatix Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 11 hours ago, bannork said: Too many posters miss what Wissanu is really saying. Wissanu is pointing out a very practical consideration. Thaksin needs to return on a week day because the banks need to be open to handle large cash withdrawals and deposits to ensure that Thaksin gets the best justice money can buy. 2
Scouse123 Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 28 minutes ago, Dogmatix said: Wissanu is pointing out a very practical consideration. Thaksin needs to return on a week day because the banks need to be open to handle large cash withdrawals and deposits to ensure that Thaksin gets the best justice money can buy. Well said that man. He just needs to make sure his driver is up to speed with who he is handing the goodies to. We don't want another ' box of chocolates ' episode.
scorecard Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 23 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: Is it only difficult with this criminal or with all criminals? Imagine the police catches some criminals on the weekend. No sorry, we can't handle them now. Please wait until Monday when the office opens. Really? I suggest: Get in there! Or we throw you in. He says he's coming by private aircraft so perhaps that means the first officicials to see him will be immigration when he reports to have his passport stamped on arrival. So if there's an issue where to hold him, simple answer, the IDC (Immigration Detention Cente) which by numerous reports is way less than comfortable and holds at any time plenty of unsavoury characters. His family could bring him food in plastic bags with a plastic spoon and a drink in a plastic bag and a rubber band to hang the drink off his finger. 1
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