Norwegian man murders his Thai boyfriend in Chiang Mai

[Gaccha]

"...the foreigner not only had HIV but also many other illnesses that left the man barely able to walk."

 

Yet he was able to commit a murder?

[save the frogs]

8 hours ago, Arbeid said:

that caused him to fall and get a brainbleed on top of everything.

if he had brainbleed and loss of memory, then anything he said during interrogation cannot be assumed to be accurate?

I guess you don't want to speculate on a public forum what you think happened since you're related to him..

 

[Arbeid]

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

if he had brainbleed and loss of memory, then anything he said during interrogation cannot be assumed to be accurate?

I guess you don't want to speculate on a public forum what you think happened since you're related to him..

 

Yes, you are right, he has massive problems even with his Norwegian, not to mention trying in English. According to my brother his partner had people after him, probably loan sharks or god only knows what. My brother being in hospital for so long and not able to provide his Thai partner money might be the reason he needed the money. Thai partner did not work, just living of my brothers disability pension from Norway. That is all I know.

[godonnet]

8 hours ago, Arbeid said:

Being his sister I can give you all some PROPER information on this case, as it is nothing but a nightmare my very sick brother has ended up in in this country, and all these lies and misinformation that are circulating in the media over there is nothing but bl..dy appalling!! Makes us all sick!

 

He was released from hospital 2 days before this crazy thing happened, after nearly dying from a massive stroke from a bloodclot, that caused him to fall and get a brainbleed on top of everything. He was in intensive care for 3 weeks before he was moved to different department. He has had brain surgery, as well as surgery to remove a bloodclot from his leg. He is paralyzed on his right side, therefor can not walk, as well as he got afasi, meaning he has massive problems speaking, and understanding properly.  He also have problems with his memory.  He does NOT have HIV, nor ALS. Just more lies about him.

 

So yes, this is the "MURDERER" so many dare call this poor sick man, who is the nicest person in this world and has NEVER hurt anyone in his whole life. He has wasted all he had on helping all his socalled Thai friends, hundreds of thousands of Norwegian kr, never a no  from him if anyone needed anything. This is the type of person my brother is, and we are totally shocked by the awful treatment he has received in this country. We only wish we can get him out from there and back home to proper care and traing after his stroke. Never had any want to go to Thailand myself but have always warned against this dangerous corrupted country and lack of proper system, so sad it had to come to this for me to be proven right. So a good idea to read Thai news after a handful of salt first, they are lying their heads off.

I am by my heart standing by this statement. I know this guy and what he has been thru. I cannot say what happened that night in that home, but it seems very unlikely, under his conditions that he would have done anything like this. 

 

Please dont delete this.

 

[save the frogs]

6 minutes ago, Arbeid said:

Yes, you are right, he has massive problems even with his Norwegian, not to mention trying in English. According to my brother his partner had people after him, probably loan sharks or god only knows what. My brother being in hospital for so long and not able to provide his Thai partner money might be the reason he needed the money. Thai partner did not work, just living of my brothers disability pension from Norway. That is all I know.

those are important clues the lawyer needs to know about. 

 

the initial story that he was crawling out in fear and had seen the murderers escape seems plausible. and then they may have taken advantage of his weakened mental state to frame him. 

very sad story.

 

[maxcorrigan]

9 hours ago, Arbeid said:

Being his sister I can give you all some PROPER information on this case, as it is nothing but a nightmare my very sick brother has ended up in in this country, and all these lies and misinformation that are circulating in the media over there is nothing but bl..dy appalling!! Makes us all sick!

 

He was released from hospital 2 days before this crazy thing happened, after nearly dying from a massive stroke from a bloodclot, that caused him to fall and get a brainbleed on top of everything. He was in intensive care for 3 weeks before he was moved to different department. He has had brain surgery, as well as surgery to remove a bloodclot from his leg. He is paralyzed on his right side, therefor can not walk, as well as he got afasi, meaning he has massive problems speaking, and understanding properly.  He also have problems with his memory.  He does NOT have HIV, nor ALS. Just more lies about him.

 

So yes, this is the "MURDERER" so many dare call this poor sick man, who is the nicest person in this world and has NEVER hurt anyone in his whole life. He has wasted all he had on helping all his socalled Thai friends, hundreds of thousands of Norwegian kr, never a no  from him if anyone needed anything. This is the type of person my brother is, and we are totally shocked by the awful treatment he has received in this country. We only wish we can get him out from there and back home to proper care and traing after his stroke. Never had any want to go to Thailand myself but have always warned against this dangerous corrupted country and lack of proper system, so sad it had to come to this for me to be proven right. So a good idea to read Thai news after a handful of salt first, they are lying their heads off.

I am glad you posted as i'm sure many others are, it's easy to speculate on sad cases like this and come up up wiih the wrong answers, we can only hope the two lawyers you mention can get him a fair hearing and  judgement for your brother,

Can only wish him and you the best of luck!

[LikeItHot]

19 hours ago, richsilver said:

If you follow the link to the original story, you will learn that guy has, in fact, confessed to the murder.

Case closed then.  Confessions in third world countries always hold up to intense scrutiny and law enforcement are above repudiation.

[Arbeid]

21 hours ago, Tom H said:

What happens to the dog on the picture?

They have two dogs, they are with a neighbour thankfully.

[Thorgal]

11 hours ago, Arbeid said:

Being his sister I can give you all some PROPER information on this case, as it is nothing but a nightmare my very sick brother has ended up in in this country, and all these lies and misinformation that are circulating in the media over there is nothing but bl..dy appalling!! Makes us all sick!

 

He was released from hospital 2 days before this crazy thing happened, after nearly dying from a massive stroke from a bloodclot, that caused him to fall and get a brainbleed on top of everything. He was in intensive care for 3 weeks before he was moved to different department. He has had brain surgery, as well as surgery to remove a bloodclot from his leg. He is paralyzed on his right side, therefor can not walk, as well as he got afasi, meaning he has massive problems speaking, and understanding properly.  He also have problems with his memory.  He does NOT have HIV, nor ALS. Just more lies about him.

 

So yes, this is the "MURDERER" so many dare call this poor sick man, who is the nicest person in this world and has NEVER hurt anyone in his whole life. He has wasted all he had on helping all his socalled Thai friends, hundreds of thousands of Norwegian kr, never a no  from him if anyone needed anything. This is the type of person my brother is, and we are totally shocked by the awful treatment he has received in this country. We only wish we can get him out from there and back home to proper care and traing after his stroke. Never had any want to go to Thailand myself but have always warned against this dangerous corrupted country and lack of proper system, so sad it had to come to this for me to be proven right. So a good idea to read Thai news after a handful of salt first, they are lying their heads off.

Thanks to inform our online community in these difficult times.

 

I would like to apologize to your brother and to you for posting/replying on his false HIV health condition.

I hope that AN moderators also support you in deleting my off topic reply.

 

May God bless you. (Gud velsigne deg).

 

 

[YaiJung]

12 hours ago, Arbeid said:

Being his sister I can give you all some PROPER information on this case, as it is nothing but a nightmare my very sick brother has ended up in in this country, and all these lies and misinformation that are circulating in the media over there is nothing but bl..dy appalling!! Makes us all sick!

 

He was released from hospital 2 days before this crazy thing happened, after nearly dying from a massive stroke from a bloodclot, that caused him to fall and get a brainbleed on top of everything. He was in intensive care for 3 weeks before he was moved to different department. He has had brain surgery, as well as surgery to remove a bloodclot from his leg. He is paralyzed on his right side, therefor can not walk, as well as he got afasi, meaning he has massive problems speaking, and understanding properly.  He also have problems with his memory.  He does NOT have HIV, nor ALS. Just more lies about him.

 

So yes, this is the "MURDERER" so many dare call this poor sick man, who is the nicest person in this world and has NEVER hurt anyone in his whole life. He has wasted all he had on helping all his socalled Thai friends, hundreds of thousands of Norwegian kr, never a no  from him if anyone needed anything. This is the type of person my brother is, and we are totally shocked by the awful treatment he has received in this country. We only wish we can get him out from there and back home to proper care and traing after his stroke. Never had any want to go to Thailand myself but have always warned against this dangerous corrupted country and lack of proper system, so sad it had to come to this for me to be proven right. So a good idea to read Thai news after a handful of salt first, they are lying their heads off.

A close friend of mine was involved in a horrific tragedy that resulted in a fatality.  The police obviously had some sleazeball reporters on speed dial, as they showed up within minutes.  These reporters did their best to make my friend look guilty.  They started 'who done it" internet discussions that would get them a lot of clicks on their <deleted>ty websites.  <deleted> them. 

 

In the end he was declared innocent and released after a month or so in Thai remand prison.  It was traumatic to say the least. 

 

My advice - Be very careful with Thai lawyers.  Get one from a different province (Bangkok) who will be much less likely to be working with corrupt cops from Chiang Mai. 

Also get some Thai you can trust to go to the courthouse with you to get the real amount if bail is granted.  We had a hell of a time getting to the bottom of that, with all sorts of slimeball cops/lawyers trying to get him to cough up millions of baht.  Never seen anything like it and the staff at the courthouse were purposely unhelpful.  In the end it was only 125k baht to get him bailed out.  It was posted on the wall for public to view, but not a single person of the period of about 3 weeks would tell us this simple fact. 

 

 

[anterian]

17 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Compared with what?

obviously compared to non gay people.

 

[Jingthing]

17 hours ago, Arbeid said:

Being his sister I can give you all some PROPER information on this case, as it is nothing but a nightmare my very sick brother has ended up in in this country, and all these lies and misinformation that are circulating in the media over there is nothing but bl..dy appalling!! Makes us all sick!

 

He was released from hospital 2 days before this crazy thing happened, after nearly dying from a massive stroke from a bloodclot, that caused him to fall and get a brainbleed on top of everything. He was in intensive care for 3 weeks before he was moved to different department. He has had brain surgery, as well as surgery to remove a bloodclot from his leg. He is paralyzed on his right side, therefor can not walk, as well as he got afasi, meaning he has massive problems speaking, and understanding properly.  He also have problems with his memory.  He does NOT have HIV, nor ALS. Just more lies about him.

 

So yes, this is the "MURDERER" so many dare call this poor sick man, who is the nicest person in this world and has NEVER hurt anyone in his whole life. He has wasted all he had on helping all his socalled Thai friends, hundreds of thousands of Norwegian kr, never a no  from him if anyone needed anything. This is the type of person my brother is, and we are totally shocked by the awful treatment he has received in this country. We only wish we can get him out from there and back home to proper care and traing after his stroke. Never had any want to go to Thailand myself but have always warned against this dangerous corrupted country and lack of proper system, so sad it had to come to this for me to be proven right. So a good idea to read Thai news after a handful of salt first, they are lying their heads off.

Thanks sis.

Obviously the peanut gallery here doesn't know what happened, but as you can see in my previous post, I was already skeptical about his so called confession. Confessions under duress especially when there is a language barrier are common in many parts of the world. It's much much easier to just instantly "solve" a case than to actually solve it (which is hard work and often never gets solved). Add to that that he is gay and a foreigner and it's even easier to pin it on him. It is fair that he is a suspect because he was on the scene, and more often than not it's the closest people that are guility. But not always!

As far as the HIV thing, not sure of that came from the police, the "press", or both, but keep in mind this is also a very common manifestation of homophobia, to see a physically ill gay man and just mindlessly label it HIV. Again it's easier that way.

As I said before I hope he gets a fair trial, and if what you're saying is the truth, I don't see why he would need to be subject to a trial at all.

Edited October 7, 2023 by Jingthing

[Baht Simpson]

On 10/6/2023 at 6:36 PM, Kinok Farang said:

Take a guess

Why don't you spell it out for us?

[chickenslegs]

If the police preserved the crime scene efficiently, the forensic investigators will be able to ascertain whether or not a third person was present and handled the murder weapon.

 

It's a big "IF".

[JeffersLos]

If the Thai police have his confession, whether he understood it or not, he's done. 

[NickyLouie]

The gay's in Chiang Mai are very violent?

 

[amykat]

Dear Sister, Be aware that many lawyers here are not trustworthy and will flat out scam you/steal your money as one poster above has suggested.  Everyone is going to be looking for some extra money from you, so be ready.  Also be ready to negotiate it way down, if you are going to pay it.  Often if you pay someone’s first price here, they will rethink it, come back and ask for more!

[SAFETY FIRST]

9 hours ago, NickyLouie said:

The gay's in Chiang Mai are very violent?

 

Here in Pattaya, it's the elderly expats. 

[Arbeid]

13 minutes ago, amykat said:

Dear Sister, Be aware that many lawyers here are not trustworthy and will flat out scam you/steal your money as one poster above has suggested.  Everyone is going to be looking for some extra money from you, so be ready.  Also be ready to negotiate it way down, if you are going to pay it.  Often if you pay someone’s first price here, they will rethink it, come back and ask for more!

Thanks Amy.  Funny you should say that, as it is exactly what happened. Now they threaten to throw  him back in jail if they dont get paid. Such a nice country, you can not even trust the police nor others, how can anyone live like this? 

 

We have a very good (top) Norwegian lawyer on the case, so he will straighten out any nonsense for the Thai lawyer. So we know my brother is in safe hands at least. He is so upset why they do this to him, when he has done absolutely nothing wrong, that being sick and have a hard time explaini ng himself. He also lost a partner he loved.

 

Thanks for reaching out, truly appreciate it x

 

[SAFETY FIRST]

Omg, the article is about some crazy Norwegian gay guy murdering his bf, but sadly it becomes a Thai bashing post.

[Nick Carter icp]

6 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Omg, the article is about some crazy Norwegian gay guy murdering his bf, but sadly it becomes a Thai bashing post.

You really should read all the posts in the thread  , the thread title seems to be incorrect

[Arbeid]

On 10/6/2023 at 2:54 PM, impulse said:

Gotta say, with Thailand's defamation laws, I'd seriously reconsider the title.  He's been accused of murder, maybe even arrested for murder. 

 

But did he really?  And how much liability is there if his story pans out?  (I doubt the ol' "we just reprint from our sources" would be much of a shield.)

 

Being his sister I can give you all some PROPER information on this case, as it is nothing but a nightmare my very sick brother has ended up in in this country, and all these lies and misinformation that are circulating in the media over there is nothing but bl..dy appalling!! Makes us all sick!

 

He was released from hospital 2 days before this crazy thing happened, after nearly dying from a massive stroke from a bloodclot, that caused him to fall and get a brainbleed on top of everything. He was in intensive care for 3 weeks before he was moved to different department. He has had brain surgery, as well as surgery to remove a bloodclot from his leg. He is paralyzed on his right side, therefor can not walk, as well as he got afasi, meaning he has massive problems speaking, and understanding properly.  He also have problems with his memory.  He does NOT have HIV, nor ALS. Just more lies about him.

 

So yes, this is the "MURDERER" so many dare call this poor sick man, who is the nicest person in this world and has NEVER hurt anyone in his whole life. He has wasted all he had on helping all his socalled Thai friends, hundreds of thousands of Norwegian kr, never a no  from him if anyone needed anything. This is the type of person my brother is, and we are totally shocked by the awful treatment he has received in this country. We only wish we can get him out from there and back home to proper care and traing after his stroke. Never had any want to go to Thailand myself but have always warned against this dangerous corrupted country and lack of proper system, so sad it had to come to this for me to be proven right. So a good idea to read Thai news after a handful of salt first, they are lying their heads off.

[Arbeid]

On 10/7/2023 at 11:06 AM, Gaccha said:

"...the foreigner not only had HIV but also many other illnesses that left the man barely able to walk."

 

Yet he was able to commit a murder?

Being his sister I can give you all some PROPER information on this case, as it is nothing but a nightmare my very sick brother has ended up in in this country, and all these lies and misinformation that are circulating in the media over there is nothing but bl..dy appalling!! Makes us all sick!

 

He was released from hospital 2 days before this crazy thing happened, after nearly dying from a massive stroke from a bloodclot, that caused him to fall and get a brainbleed on top of everything. He was in intensive care for 3 weeks before he was moved to different department. He has had brain surgery, as well as surgery to remove a bloodclot from his leg. He is paralyzed on his right side, therefor can not walk, as well as he got afasi, meaning he has massive problems speaking, and understanding properly.  He also have problems with his memory.  He does NOT have HIV, nor ALS. Just more lies about him.

 

So yes, this is the "MURDERER" so many dare call this poor sick man, who is the nicest person in this world and has NEVER hurt anyone in his whole life. He has wasted all he had on helping all his socalled Thai friends, hundreds of thousands of Norwegian kr, never a no  from him if anyone needed anything. This is the type of person my brother is, and we are totally shocked by the awful treatment he has received in this country. We only wish we can get him out from there and back home to proper care and traing after his stroke. Never had any want to go to Thailand myself but have always warned against this dangerous corrupted country and lack of proper system, so sad it had to come to this for me to be proven right. So a good idea to read Thai news after a handful of salt first, they are lying their heads off.

[Kinok Farang]

23 hours ago, Baht Simpson said:

Why don't you spell it out for us?

Why "us",when you really mean "you".

[Baht Simpson]

15 hours ago, Kinok Farang said:

Why "us",when you really mean "you".

No, I mean us. I want everyone here to assess what you are. At least have the courage of your convictions.

[pacovl46]

On 10/7/2023 at 1:45 AM, Arbeid said:

Thank you, it most certainly is true. We have got lawyers, both Thai and from Norway.

Good luck then. Shouldn't be a problem to prove it then. Get a good blood splatter analyst! 

[SAFETY FIRST]

On 10/8/2023 at 10:16 AM, Arbeid said:

Never had any want to go to Thailand myself but have always warned against this dangerous corrupted country. 

Thailand is not dangerous. 😠

 

It's unsafe at times due to the many weirdo foreigners like your brother coming here with their mental health issues.