BYD Seal tips, tricks and help

[Andrew Dwyer]

28 minutes ago, macahoom said:

 

I could be mistaken, but I don't believe there are any BYD sanctioned optional extras for the Seal - unless individual dealerships are offering non-official options like window film.

Okay, I think you could be right as nothing was mentioned when I placed the order .

@Bandersnatch I believe was offered a selection of films but as you say maybe not every showroom.

[Andrew Dwyer]

 

Someone on FB Seal group posted these little known modes for the Seal, not quite sure what the advantage of knowing this is, unless the daytime running lights are disabled and air con can be enabled for camping maybe ?? ( a much mentioned option missing from the Atto 3 )

 

Anyway, make of this what you will:

 

 

 

[Andrew Dwyer]

Seems like I misunderstood the situation, today they will make contact with the all important “ make the check payable to “ information and tomorrow will pick the car up.

Guess I don’t get to choose the insurance company ?

 

BYD have a different approach it seems, no trying to flog you some overpriced accessories, no freebies other than what is already stated, no discounts.

Make it simple, makes perfect sense, at the rate they are selling them have no time for haggling.

 

The life of a BYD salesperson must be pretty good right now !

[Andrew Dwyer]

After I had posted about closing the daytime running lights a couple of posts ago this popped up.

 

Okay it’s for a Dolphin OTA update but could possibly mean that Seal will get to turn on and off the daytime running lights with the turn off AVAS update.

 

Hopefully will let you know later this week 😉

[macahoom]

12 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Guess I don’t get to choose the insurance company ?

 

I asked but was told I wasn't allowed to choose the company.

Edited November 29, 2023 by macahoom

[motdaeng]

37 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

... about closing the daytime running lights ...

 

did I miss something? why would someone turn off the daylight running lights on the car?

[Bandersnatch]

I was asked which insurance company I wanted, someone had suggested Bangkok, so I went with them.

 

An app store would be really great, have been researching sideloading and apk files - bit of a pain for an Apple guy.

Edited November 29, 2023 by Bandersnatch

[Andrew Dwyer]

1 hour ago, motdaeng said:

 

did I miss something? why would someone turn off the daylight running lights on the car?

Well I think it was mainly for the Atto 3 when people went camping and wanted to attach a tent and run the air con they found they couldn’t turn off the lights.

Even had some Aussies complain as they had gone to a drive in movie and had to cover the headlights.

I agree that the situations where you want to turn off the daytime running lights are few but enough for them to incorporate it into an update, albeit for a Dolphin.

[mistral53]

2 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

The life of a BYD salesperson must be pretty good right now !

Yesterday I perused 'our' BYD dealer's FB page, and could not believe the number of cars they handed over to customers - mostly Dolphins and Atto 3s, but also quite a few Seals. It's a massive dealership, but the traffic must make the owner smile all the way to the bank.......did I hear a happy jingle a lingle a ting?

 

The flip side is, service suffers, they are simply overwhelmed. BYD is expanding so rapidly worldwide, so not surprisingly, their ratings in China are in the toilet.

[macahoom]

 

I’ve just returned home after a 1200 km trip in my Seal Performance. The car drives beautifully; sporty feel, very stable and sure-footed, good steering, good brakes. Very comfortable.

 

So much about the car is brilliant, I could talk all day. So I am just going to list some of the things I don’t like:

 

For me, the driving assist features, including cruise control, are a disaster. I really persevered to try and find settings which I could live with. I failed. Eventually, I gave up and turned everything off. Heaven! I just hope BYD can tweak the software in the future to make it brilliant and usable and not almost brilliant and unusable as it is at the moment. Note: my car does not have the latest software update so it’s possible the latest version has some improvements already. One of the good things about the driving assist is how well the Seal can “see“ the lines on the road. It detects, even in heavy rain, very badly worn and faint lines.

 

The air recirculation keeps switching off (and on) by itself. This is very annoying. Maybe the car is very smart and it’s doing so because it has a sensor which detects high humidity inside the car. Who knows? This may be why we could smell exhaust fumes inside the car, although it seems we could still smell them even when the recirculation was on.

 

I had one problem charging overnight: although I definitely had it turned off, the timed charging turned itself on and the car stopped charging at five minutes past midnight. I reset it to off and the problem didn’t occur again.

 

There are lots of voice commands that the car understands - much more than the recommended ones in the manual. You just have to experiment and change the way you say things. This is great as it means you often don’t have to mess about finding buried stuff in the infotainment display, although I've yet to discover the correct command for switching between seat memories. Funny: no matter how many times my Thai girlfriend tries, the car cannot understand her accent. I love it!

 

There are a few messages on the display behind the steering wheel that you’ll need a magnifying glass to read. I don’t know what they were thinking when they designed this. Annoying!

 

The turn signal stalk is on the right side. It’s on the left in my other car. Wiper frenzy. Drives me bonkers!

 

The aperture of the boot/trunk is not the greatest. The height is the problem.

Edited November 30, 2023 by macahoom

[Andrew Dwyer]

The Seal has landed !!

Just got back from picking the other grey member of my family.

Quick spot of lunch before getting to grips, just said to the little lady “i am just going outside and may be some time “ to her while grabbing the keys , as expected she didn’t get the humour.

First impressions:

Love this colour, the shape and the cars overall aura !!

 

Deactivated a couple of things before leaving the showroom but had to pull over as the speed warnings from the traffic sign recognition were overwhelming, as @Bandersnatch said previously the signs are not updated enough ( on the road ) for this to work well, found myself on the highway with a “ 40 “ sign flashing away !!

Disappointed to note that actions that are disabled remain in orange on the small screen making it look decidedly “ busy “.

 

Obviously early days and plenty more observations to come but I immediately noticed that ice cream man/alien spaceship were not making their presence felt ( wound the window down in the moobahn to check). Obviously pleased with this  !!

 

Now there are 2 sounds that can be turned on and off at will but it is a little confusing as the actual button to disable it is on a different screen to the screen with choice of sound.

 

Swipe down from the top brings up this screen :

 

 

expand Vehicle Control to get this:

 

 

The AVAS button disables synthetic sound ( illuminated is off ):

 

 This screen allows you to change the sounds (windscreen wipers and maybe seat belt warning ) from Standard to Brand.

 

 

Press play does nothing except a small icon will flash.

 

 

You have to go back to the AVAS button if you want to be able to turn synthetic sounds on and off via PLAY.

All unnecessarily complicated.

Anyway this is my system version 

 

 

Got to go , lots to learn !

[Andrew Dwyer]

 

Yup, that light green license plate frame isn’t going to work for me, a black one from Lazada is on the cards.

Or maybe a tin of Seal Space Grey paint ( Lazada 200 baht ) would be better ?

 

 

[Pib]

Speaking of landing Seals, at around 1pm today I drove by my BYD dealership here in western Bangkok and there were two 8 vehicle carriers parked in front.  The 1st carrier had already began unloading and only had two vehicles left on it....an Atto and a Dolphin....don't know what the other 6 already unloaded might have been assuming it came fully loaded with 8 vehicles.   And the 2nd carrier hadn't begun unloading yet and it had 7 Seals of various colors and 1 Atto on it.   I was also at my dealership from 9:30am to 10am this morning getting a 2nd NFC card made and they must had had a dozen Seals parked around/in the facility.  The Seal is definitely hot stuff right now.

Edited November 30, 2023 by Pib

[Bandersnatch]

3 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Got to go , lots to learn !

 

Your Version:

 

And Mine:

 

 

Tried to do an OTA update but no joy

Edited November 30, 2023 by Bandersnatch

[macahoom]

19 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

 

Your Version:

 

And Mine:

 

 

Tried to do an OTA update but no joy

 

And I've got an even older version than both of you.

[Andrew Dwyer]

The update should be here soon I think, have seen a few updating already but at dealer not OTA .

Same with my Haval, others were updating to a newer version but my dealer denied it existed, one day it just did it without any interference from me.

[Andrew Dwyer]

A couple of questions:

I want to stop the Hi BYD voice from butting in and just use the steering wheel button but cannot find where to disable auto voice.

 

On the small screen the tyre pressure monitor is on by default, is there any way to get anything else on there , there’s a lot of stuff on there already would prefer something simpler.

 

Last one, tyre pressures, the dealer had put 40psi on front and 42psi behind but the spec is 36 and 42 , seems like a big difference ( I don’t think I have owned a car before where front and back were different !).

Any thoughts ?

[Andrew Dwyer]

Tested granny charger out, started off at 1.2 kw then every 5 minutes or so went up by .1 kw to 1.7 kw 

Normal ?

[Andrew Dwyer]

Has anyone taken a close look at the BYD badge on front ?, a fb guy painted his gold but said he had to remove the bumper to do this which I thought really strange.

 

Take a close look , it is very unusual, the bumper is not indented it has holes, in BYD form , through the bumper itself and has moulded plastic on the inside holding it together, very unusual and again unnecessarily complicated.

From the inside:

 

 

[macahoom]

29 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

I want to stop the Hi BYD voice from butting in and just use the steering wheel button but cannot find where to disable auto voice.

 

I don't believe you can disable her voice.

 

It doesn't bother me. I like the way it types out what you say on the screen. 

[macahoom]

32 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

On the small screen the tyre pressure monitor is on by default, is there any way to get anything else on there , there’s a lot of stuff on there already would prefer something simpler.

 

Yeh, you can but I could only describe how to do it if I was sitting in the car at the moment, which I'm not.

[macahoom]

34 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Last one, tyre pressures, the dealer had put 40psi on front and 42psi behind but the spec is 36 and 42 , seems like a big difference ( I don’t think I have owned a car before where front and back were different !).

Any thoughts ?

 

I'm inclined to follow BYD's recommendation. I'd be surprised if they've got it wrong.

[macahoom]

30 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Tested granny charger out, started off at 1.2 kw then every 5 minutes or so went up by .1 kw to 1.7 kw 

Normal ?

 

Nothing unusual about this. I think it's preparing the battery for the onslaught.

[Andrew Dwyer]

4 minutes ago, macahoom said:

 

I don't believe you can disable her voice.

 

It doesn't bother me. I like the way it types out what you say on the screen. 

Sorry , maybe I wasn’t clear, I love the “ Hi BYD Lady “ and will talk to her often, I don’t want saying “ Hi BYD “ , or anything close to that , to bring her online and would prefer to summon her using the steering wheel button only.

Am sure this option was available on Atto 3 but maybe mistaken, not a big deal.

[Pib]

1 hour ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Tested granny charger out, started off at 1.2 kw then every 5 minutes or so went up by .1 kw to 1.7 kw 

Normal ?

Yeap...all normal with it climbing up to 1.7KW as that will be the max (give or take a tenth of a KW) the 10A (2.2KWH) granny charger can provide. 

 

Although the granny charger has a 2.2KWH/10A rating you'll have about 0.5KWH in charging losses in this car-charger combination since the car's electronics/rectifier/fans will eat around 0.5KW of the 2.2KW with the remaining going into the battery.    When my 10A granny charger is hooked to my Atto the car starts off by showing around 1.1KWH for a second or two and then climbs to 1.7KWH.   

 

With a 7KWH/30A wall charger you'll still have that approx 0.5KW charging loss...as mentioned that 0.5KW is being used by the car's onboard rectifier/electronics/fans/etc., with the remaining actually going into the battery.

 

With your Seal Premium 82.56KWH battery charging at 1.7KWH it will take a mere 48 hours to charge the battery from 0 to 100%, 12 hours from 75% to 100%, etc.  Granny is slow but still gets the job done. 

[macahoom]

38 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

and would prefer to summon her using the steering wheel button only.

 

That's all I need to do - just press the button. It is not necessary to say "Hi BYD".

 

Don't tell me the latest update requires you to speak to summon her!

[Andrew Dwyer]

14 minutes ago, macahoom said:

 

That's all I need to do - just press the button. It is not necessary to say "Hi BYD".

 

Don't tell me the latest update requires you to speak to summon her!

No, both methods can summon her as I think it has always been .

[Andrew Dwyer]

2 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Has anyone taken a close look at the BYD badge on front ?, a fb guy painted his gold but said he had to remove the bumper to do this which I thought really strange.

 

Take a close look , it is very unusual, the bumper is not indented it has holes, in BYD form , through the bumper itself and has moulded plastic on the inside holding it together, very unusual and again unnecessarily complicated.

From the inside:

 

 

Thinking about this I wonder if the BYD logo was meant to be illuminated at one time ?

With a bright light the letters become see through.

 The above photo is taken by my phone, with flash, from the inside and that dark pattern is my shirt !!

 

Intriguing ………. well i thought so.

[Andrew Dwyer]

On 11/30/2023 at 5:37 PM, Andrew Dwyer said:

Sorry , maybe I wasn’t clear, I love the “ Hi BYD Lady “ and will talk to her often, I don’t want saying “ Hi BYD “ , or anything close to that , to bring her online and would prefer to summon her using the steering wheel button only.

Am sure this option was available on Atto 3 but maybe mistaken, not a big deal.

To answer my own question:

Swipe right on the main screen and click on the “ BYD Assistant “ which has a few options, one of which is to disable summoning the Assistant by saying “ Hi BYD “ and relying solely on the steering wheel button .

NOTE: I since decided that saying “ Hi BYD “ is easier than looking down for the microphone button.

[Pib]

7 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

To answer my own question:

Swipe right on the main screen and click on the “ BYD Assistant “ which has a few options, one of which is to disable summoning the Assistant by saying “ Hi BYD “ and relying solely on the steering wheel button .

NOTE: I since decided that saying “ Hi BYD “ is easier than looking down for the microphone button.

Plus, keeping eyes on the road is better than looking down at the steering wheel.