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The 54 (!) page plaintiff petition provided to the Honorable District Judge for his consideration is not the usual legal mumbo-jumbo but is a truly awesome and easily readable factual and evidence-based overview of Pfizer misrepresenting the efficacy of its product.

Here is the link (a PDF download) > https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/press/Pfizer Vaccine Petition Filed.pdf.

 

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A dedicated public servant ( :cheesy: ), let off the hook (for now) by his fellow Republican elected officials... 

 

Republican Texas AG Ken Paxton is acquitted of corruption charges at historic impeachment trial

 

September 17, 2023

 

"AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — Republican Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton was fully acquitted Saturday of corruption charges in a historic impeachment trial, a resounding verdict that reaffirms the power of the GOP’s hard right and puts an indicted incumbent who remains under FBI investigation back into office.

 

The outcome demonstrated Paxton’s lasting durability in America’s biggest red state after years of criminal charges and scandal.

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The outcome far from ends Paxton’s troubles. He still faces trial on felony securities fraud charges, remains under a separate FBI investigation and is in jeopardy of losing his ability to practice law in Texas because of his baseless attempts to overturn the 2020 election."

 

https://apnews.com/article/ken-paxton-impeachment-texas-871fb9c57b38fbda5bec5c2e5f280755

 

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The guy is an extreme-right nutter and anti-vaxxer. He's brought and failed with literally dozens of court cases against the Biden administration. Now he has a court case against himself for securities fraud and there are plenty of allegations against him for other crimes. Even his own republicans supported an impeachement against him because of these and he got suspended from office for several months. Read the statements in the case he is bringing against Pfizer. No reputable AG would write something like that. It's just a matter of time before he's going down hard.

 

(cross-posting from the other duplicate thread as it was closed)

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4 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

There is a reason that the share-value of both companies is now way lower than before the pandemic

 

Yes, there is a reason.  Not sure why you think it's the lawsuits, though...

 

"Pfizer (PFE) stock continued its 11-month decline in November after its third-quarter sales missed expectations amid waning demand for Covid products." : https://www.investors.com/news/technology/pfizer-stock-buy-now/

 

 

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21 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Provisional COVID-19 Death Rate per 100,000 Population (Age-Adjusted) Reported to the CDC, by State/Territory – United States

Provisional counts, it matters where you source your misinformation from. As per NY times, Texas consistently ranks below all national covid metrics and much better than the majority of states on covid Texasalltimedeath100K.thumb.jpg.ef2f255cf57f75c59484cf959b3974f5.jpgTexasRecenttrend_deaths100K.thumb.jpg.6cca7c1b8deb520e3f759c73f98d5d7a.jpgTexasStatecasetrend.thumb.jpg.9f231f50258e03d8bb8381d5001c860b.jpgcase, death rates per 100K.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html

 

 

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18 hours ago, eisfeld said:

The guy is an extreme-right nutter and anti-vaxxer. He's brought and failed with literally dozens of court cases against the Biden administration. Now he has a court case against himself for securities fraud and there are plenty of allegations against him for other crimes. Even his own republicans supported an impeachement against him because of these and he got suspended from office for several months. Read the statements in the case he is bringing against Pfizer. No reputable AG would write something like that. It's just a matter of time before he's going down hard.

 

(cross-posting from the other duplicate thread as it was closed)

Like this one:

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https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/news/releases/paxton-victorious-against-biden-administration-federal-government-must-follow-deportation-law

 

"“For the time being, it seems like Paxton is as important as the [federal government] in deciding what immigration policy is implemented these days,” said Stephen Yale-Loehr, a professor of immigration law practice at Cornell Law School."

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2022/12/02/texas-ag-ken-paxtons-lawsuits-stymie-biden-agenda-on-immigration-and-healthcare/

 

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On 12/1/2023 at 10:12 AM, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Readers deserve to be informed of the character and credibility (which is virtually nil) of the person bringing these allegations...

Who apparently hasn't be convicted of anything ... innocent till proven guilty.

 

"Ken Paxton is acquitted of corruption charges"

 

So he's someone who would rather stand & fight, rather than being silenced 👍

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4 hours ago, mohlite said:

Provisional counts, it matters where you source your misinformation from. As per NY times, Texas consistently ranks below all national covid metrics and much better than the majority of states on covid

 

Just because the NYT has a different tally/ranking than the CDC doesn't mean the CDC tally is wrong... And in fact, it's just the opposite. The CDC data is more up-to-date, more accurate, and they are the official record keeper of such things for the U.S.

 

Specifically, for starters, as the NYT webpage clearly shows but your post failed to make clear, they stopped updating their state info in March 2023, whereas the CDC data has continued to be updated thru current time, meaning the NYT data you posted is incomplete and eight months out-of-date:

 

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And indeed, if you dig into the data, the CDC thus not surprisingly has HIGHER/LARGER COVID death count totals for the U.S. overall and Texas individually than the numbers used by the NYT, as follows:

 

From the CDC spreadsheet file supporting their COVID deaths state rankings:

 

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versus the NYT tally for Texas:

 

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Thus, the CDC is counting 8,696 additional COVID deaths for Texas that the NYT isn't counting -- the difference between the CDC Texas number of 103,214 and the out-of-date NYT number of 94,518.

 

Just as the CDC's cumulative COVID deaths tally for the U.S. is 1,156,484 versus the 1,135,343 tally reported by the NYT, meaning the NYT once again has an undercount of 21,141 COVID deaths nationally.

 

In short, the CDC data is a more complete, accurate and up-to-date counting than that from the NYT... not to mention, it's also the CDC and the related National Center for Health Statistics that keep the official records of such things for the U.S.

 

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Then, as for the differences in where the two sources list Texas in the rankings of per capita COVID deaths, apart from the NYT data being eight months out of date, the following may be another factor in that particular variation.

 

As clearly listed in my original report above of the CDC rankings and data on per capita COVID deaths by state,  those rates are AGE ADJUSTED, allowing more meaningful state to state comparisons. And that is the standard and preferred method of making such comparisons.

 

From all indications, the NYT is just using raw data and not adjusting for age differences between the different state populations. The CDC is, as the headline of their chart clearly shows:

 

Provisional COVID-19 Death Rate per 100,000 Population (Age-Adjusted) Reported to the CDC, by State/Territory – United States

 

From the CDC:

 

Death Data 

 

"Rates were age-adjusted to the 2000 standard population using the direct method (see https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr70/nvsr70-08-508.pdf)."

 

And using age adjusted data is the standard means of making such comparisons across different geographic areas such as states, as the CDC explains below:

 

"Age-adjusted death rates also are better indicators of relative risk when comparing mortality across geographic areas or between sex or race subgroups of the population that have different age distributions."

 

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr70/nvsr70-08-508.pdf

 

And from elsewhere on that point from other sources:

Age-adjusted Rates

"Age adjusting rates allows fairer comparisons to be made between groups with different age distributions...

 

The age-adjusted rates are rates that would have existed if the population under study had the same age distribution as the "standard" population. Therefore, they are summary measures adjusted for differences in age distributions."

 

https://health.mo.gov/data/documentation/crude-aarate.php

 

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What is age-adjustment?

"Age-adjustment is a statistical process applied to rates of disease, death, injuries or other health outcomes which allows communities with different age structures to be compared.

Why do we do age-adjustment?

"Almost all diseases or health outcomes occur at different rates in different age groups. Most chronic diseases, including most cancers, occur more often among older people.... Age-adjustment is a statistical way to remove confounding caused by age."

 

https://www.health.ny.gov/diseases/chronic/ageadj.htm

 

 

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4 hours ago, mohlite said:

Repeat offender status, expect more record fines if convicted.

 

Maybe you missed this... But Paxton's case is a civil lawsuit, not a criminal proceeding. There are no convictions in civil cases, and thus no "repeat offender status" involved.

 

"Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton has sued Pfizer, Inc."

 

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8 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Who apparently hasn't be convicted of anything ... innocent till proven guilty.

 

"Ken Paxton is acquitted of corruption charges"

 

So he's someone who would rather stand & fight, rather than being silenced 👍

 

Someone that likes to fight for sure :) He hasn't been acquitted of all charges. There are plenty more allegations by former staffers like bribery and organized crime. He's being prosecuted for state securities fraud currently. A state attorney should not be facing multiple court cases against himself. Even the State Bar of Texas is sueing Paxon for unethical behaviour and multiple attorneys are trying to remove him from practicing law. He seems like a textbook "bad cop".

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1 hour ago, eisfeld said:

He hasn't been acquitted of all charges.

 

Of course, Paxton was only acquitted by fellow Republican state Senators in Texas in an impeachment case that the state House members from both parties originally had brought against him. To convict him would have required a two-thirds Senate vote in the Republican-controlled state Senate, which didn't happen. All the other pending legal actions against Paxton remain.

 

Kinda similar to how U.S. Senate Republicans, by blocking the required two-third majority votes, acquitted fellow Republican Donald Trump in his two impeachment proceedings. But what then ensued thereafter was the filing of 91 felony counts in four separate now-pending criminal cases.

 

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"Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton was impeached on May 27, becoming the state's first statewide official to be impeached since 1917."

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"The impeachment also underlines the conflict between Paxton and a number of other Republicans, many of whom voted in the state House for his impeachment."

 

...the House voted to impeach Paxton in a bipartisan 121-23 majority vote."

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/texas-ag-ken-paxton-impeached-controversy/story?id=99826087

 

Even a lot of his fellow Republican lawmakers in the Republican controlled House considered him guilty and wanted him out.

 

 

 

 

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On 12/1/2023 at 10:40 AM, Red Phoenix said:

There is a reason that the share-value of both companies is now way lower than before the pandemic,

 

Moderna share price Jan 1 2020 (just after SARS-2 outbreak)  $18.89. Yesterday Dec 1 2023 $78.89. 

 

What ever happened to facts folks?

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28 minutes ago, rabas said:

 

Moderna share price Jan 1 2020 (just after SARS-2 outbreak)  $18.89. Yesterday Dec 1 2023 $78.89. 

 

What ever happened to facts folks?

"FACTS"... the liberal left doesn't need "facts"

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1 hour ago, rabas said:

 

Moderna share price Jan 1 2020 (just after SARS-2 outbreak)  $18.89. Yesterday Dec 1 2023 $78.89. 

 

What ever happened to facts folks?

Moderna Stock Looks Sick; Here's How To Take Advantage With Options

Moderna (MRNA) stock has bounced off its 52-week low but still looks incredibly weak and that could provide an opportunity for a bearish option play.

 

According to the IBD Stock Checkup, Moderna stock is ranked No. 165 in its group and has awful ratings. It has a Composite Rating of 6, an EPS Rating of 4 and a Relative Strength Rating of 9.

 

Source: https://www.investors.com/research/options/moderna-stock-looks-sick-heres-how-to-take-advantage-with-options/?src=A00220

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@Red Phoenix you are spreading misinformation once again. Modernas stock is at about 4x the price of what it was before the pandemic even after coming down from the high of the pandemic. You conveniently selected only the timeframe of the downward slope and are completely leaving out the upward part. Surely only by accident wink wink nudge nudge.ScreenShot2023-12-03at18_15_03.png.2f379d34a8ae7849ed55a1007e4fa2a9.png

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A bogus new attack on COVID vaccines from Texas' least credible politician

Los Angeles Times

December 6, 2023

 

"In recent times, whenever a government lawsuit swears at common sense, at the facts and at the public interest, it has been a safe bet that Texas Atty. Gen. Ken Paxton has his fingerprints on it.

 

Sure enough, here comes Paxton with a lawsuit charging Pfizer Inc. with systematically misrepresenting the efficacy of its COVID-19 vaccine and attempting to censor public discussion about it.

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There's a lot of misinformation and disinformation packed into the 54 pages of Paxton's legal complaint, some of it so nonsensical as to evoke laughter, starting with the fact that the reasons the pandemic got worse after the introduction of COVID vaccines had more to do with policies promoted by Paxton and his political cronies than with Pfizer."

 

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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/column-bogus-attack-covid-vaccines-110023842.html

 

 

 

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