Blow to Biden as poll shows Trump in lead for 2024 presidential election

[illisdean]

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

FOX… Bless.

Democrats watch FOX news, especially if they want the facts and also because they like Tucker....lol

 

"More Democrats are watching Fox News during prime time than CNN, according to data from Per Nielsen MRI Fusion."

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/580171-more-democrats-watch-fox-news-during-primetime-than-cnndata/

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[Chomper Higgot]

31 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Democrats watch FOX news, especially if they want the facts and also because they like Tucker....lol

Here’s a fact that demonstrates your disconnect from reality.

 

Tucker isn’t on FOX.

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, illisdean said:

Biden is getting hammered from all flanks, losing support of black voters too.

 

He's dead in the water, floundering like the doddering fool he is. 

 

Biden losing support of black voters

 

Biden polling weakness among Blacks

 

 

No, President Biden is not dead in the water any more than adjudicated rapist Trump is.

Assuming both will be nominated (though we don't know that for sure yet) they both will face a challenging election, probably very close, and at this point in time it's clear either COULD win.

I think there is ZERO chance of a Trump landslide but at least some chance of a Biden landslide due to adjudicated rapist Trump's very rapid mental decline and possible convictions and incarcerations. 

Yes I know the retort, Biden has dementia blah blah blah, but whatever his state of competency is, he has been consistent and stable in that for years now.

Trump is visibly and rapidly MELTING DOWN, probably under the pressure of his fear of imprisonment and large judgments greatly threatening his wealth and family business, so that becomes the x factor in the election instead of Biden's condition.

We shall see.

Anyone calling this yet is a fool. 

[illisdean]

30 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

No, President Biden is not dead in the water any more than adjudicated rapist Trump is.

Assuming both will be nominated (though we don't know that for sure yet) they both will face a challenging election, probably very close, and at this point in time it's clear either COULD win.

I think there is ZERO chance of a Trump landslide but at least some chance of a Biden landslide due to adjudicated rapist Trump's very rapid mental decline and possible convictions and incarcerations. 

Yes I know the retort, Biden has dementia blah blah blah, but whatever his state of competency is, he has been consistent and stable in that for years now.

Trump is visibly and rapidly MELTING DOWN, probably under the pressure of his fear of imprisonment and large judgments greatly threatening his wealth and family business, so that becomes the x factor in the election instead of Biden's condition.

We shall see.

Anyone calling this yet is a fool. 

Time to get up to speed, open the front door of your cave and maybe you'll catch a drift of the latest on Trumps indefinitely postponed Jan 6 KKK Act violation indictment and the circus developing  with the corrupt fanni RICO farce debacle down south in Fulton Co. Next, read the polls, the wriying on the wall, check the border and see how thats going and compare that to the key issues plaguing the  country in the eyes of the voters/poll respondents and then maybe you will have a clue and maybe with some semblance of what to do with it. Those RIDICULOUS civil cases with equally ridiculous and very questionable outcomes are DOA in appeals courts. Biden's lawfare is crashing and burning like all things Biden.

[illisdean]

19 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Stop lying. His brain obviously hasn't stopped working. Who do you persuade with such lies? Nobody. Magas stay magas -- that's his base and it doesn't budge.

Biden cannot finish two sentances, you need some samples of his cognitive gaffes?? Trump worked and finished 18 + hour work days while Biden struggles to read a teleprompter and exit the staage. You're not fooling anyone. The whole country can see and poll results & data  show voters view Biden devoid of "mental fitness" for the job while the same voters say otherwise about Trump. Check the polls, it's all factual These ain't lies dude, they're facts which you seem indifferent to. Reality is tough for some to accept, right?

 

"Yet here’s the bad news for the president: 68% of all voters say they have concerns about Biden having the necessary mental and physical health to be president, including 55% who say they have “major” concerns. 

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/first-read/poll-68-voters-worries-bidens-mental-physical-health-rcna91343#

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Biden cannot finish two sentances, you need some samples of his cognitive gaffes?? Trump worked and finished 18 + hour work days while Biden struggles to read a teleprompter and exit the staage. You're not fooling anyone. The whole country can see and poll results & data  show voters view Biden devoid of "mental fitness" for the job while the same voters say otherwise about Trump. Check the polls, it's all factual These ain't lies dude, they're facts which you seem indifferent to. Reality is tough for some to accept, right?

You're really funny! You actually think Trump worked 18 hours a day! Incredible. If you had said 18 hours watching t.v. you would be much closer to the truth of it.

It's too early to take polls very seriously whoever they show leading at this point. 

[illisdean]

Look at the poll rend lines, they are NOT improving for Biden in concert with his continued failures, especially since the attack on the military base in Jordan and 3 dead soldiers! It's one thin after anotyher and now the American voters have had their fill of his lies and gaslighting. They're wise to him and the polls reflect that. THe only way Biden fixes this is buzz-off and get out of the way and let some serious people fix America. Biden's entire tenure can be encompassed between embarrassment and disaster. Throw in the alleged and growing allegations of corruption and his families involvement in money laundering, tax evasion and fraud, felony gun charges, FARA violations by the crack-head. It's more than American voters deserve, if Biden had any respect he would stand down now and go away in shame before he really gets walloped during the impeachment inquiry and maybe even set the world on fire with WW3. 

[illisdean]

5 hours ago, Jingthing said:

No Trump could never be found in Mar a Lardo or on the golf course. No siree!

Biden

 

https://nypost.com/2023/09/02/slacker-in-chief-biden-keeps-up-record-40-vacay-pace/

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, illisdean said:

Time to get up to speed, open the front door of your cave and maybe you'll catch a drift of the latest on Trumps indefinitely postponed Jan 6 KKK Act violation indictment and the circus developing  with the corrupt fanni RICO farce debacle down south in Fulton Co. Next, read the polls, the wriying on the wall, check the border and see how thats going and compare that to the key issues plaguing the  country in the eyes of the voters/poll respondents and then maybe you will have a clue and maybe with some semblance of what to do with it. Those RIDICULOUS civil cases with equally ridiculous and very questionable outcomes are DOA in appeals courts. Biden's lawfare is crashing and burning like all things Biden.

More delusional nonsense.

 

[Eric Loh]

5 hours ago, illisdean said:

https://nypost.com/2023/09/02/slacker-in-chief-biden-keeps-up-record-40-vacay-pace/

 

NYP? but still if true make him a very accomplished leader to manage the post covid economic revival and dozens of impactful bills into law which include lowering healthcare and drug costs,  fighting climate change, passed legislation aimed to address the scourge of gunviolence, largest ever National Investment in Mental Health, cancelling of Student loans, Rescue Plan,  Veteran Health and infrastructure. Can't thibk of Trump's achievements except logging 307 days playing golf.  

[illisdean]

4 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Can't thibk

 

Maybe you try thinking and then look at the polls and ask yourself if Biden achieved so much why is Trump eviscerating him in all polling now (except abortion) and Biden's job approvals are lower than any incumbent. The student loan scam/vote buying scheme Biden tried was shot down by the courts for the constitutional violation it was. Trump (recently nominated for Nobel) brought peace and stability to the ME with the Abrahams accord. Biden is the opposite creating conflict everywhere and with everyone. he's failed, it's so obvious. Trump had immigration /border security managed quite well compared to the humanitarian and national security crisis created by Biden's refusal to enforce the laws he swore to upg=hold. A huge failure for the Biden admin, the proof is in numerous polls attesting to this fact.  Tell me about this "veteran health and infrastructure" you allude to, and compare to the displaced/homeless vets being made to vacate for the illegal immigrants. I am eager to know what it is you are trying to "thibk" about here.

 

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[illisdean]

6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Here’s a fact that demonstrates your disconnect from reality.

 

Tucker isn’t on FOX.

Thats it, that's all you can say? You can refute the facts that more dems watch FOX than CNN and that Tucker isn't on FOX, LOL

 

No substantive dialogue? But the one fact that remains, is that more dems watch FOX than CNN, right ? LOL. 

[mikebike]

I would really like to know where some people get their "information", if it can even be called that 🤣

[Chomper Higgot]

3 hours ago, illisdean said:

Thats it, that's all you can say? You can refute the facts that more dems what FOX than CNN and that Tucker isn't on FOX, LOL

 

No substantive dialogue? But the one fact that remains, is that more dems watch FOX than CNN, right ? LOL. 

 

Sorry, I simply provided a fact and refuted the error you made.

 

There can be no ‘substantive discussion’ with someone who is presenting as fact something that is patently false.

 

If you believe Trump is going to beat Biden in the election, but that’s just an opinion, if you believe that opinion then good for you.

 

Though please forgive me for taking the view that your posts read as though you are trying to convince yourself.

 

I personally would love Trump to be the Republican candidate, he’s a gift to The Democrats, I’m not in the least bit interested in making any argument to any Republican or MAGA adherent (they are not necessarily the same thing) that Trump should not be their candidate.

 

 

 

[Eric Loh]

3 hours ago, illisdean said:

No surprise there. Maybe you try thinking and then look at the polls and ask yourself if Biden achieved so much why is Trump eviscerating him in all polling now (except abortion) and Biden's job approvals are lower than any incumbent. The student loan scam/vote buying scheme Biden tried was shot down by the courts for the constitutional violation it was. Trump (recently nominated for Nobel) brought peace and stability to the ME with the Abrahams accord. Biden is the opposite creating conflict everywhere and with everyone. he's failed, it's so obvious. Trump had immigration /border security managed quite well compared to the humanitarian and national security crisis created by Biden's refusal to enforce the laws he swore to upg=hold. A huge failure for the Biden admin, the proof is in numerous polls attesting to this fact.  Tell me about this "veteran health and infrastructure" you allude to, and compare to the displaced/homeless vets being made to vacate for the illegal immigrants. I am eager to know what it is you are trying to "thibk" about here.

 

 

 

Have to say that Trump and his acolytes are good at repeating lies and misrepresenting facts to change poll voters perceptions. It will soon change when the Dems go on the offensive with truth and facts. Biden will beat Trump and MAGA as in 2018, 2020 and 2022.

[illisdean]

3 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Have to say that Trump and his acolytes are good at repeating lies and misrepresenting facts to change poll voters perceptions.

LOL...ok ...so what lies account for Biden's low job approvals and what really prompts a poll respondent to favor Trump over the cognitive challenged Biden and his rock sold record of failure after failure? In America and the modern world where perception is key we call it reality. The reality is that polls are consistently indicating voters are wise to Biden and his destructive policies when compared to Trump. How else could Biden poll so low, bested by Trump on all metrics? Is it perhaps an "illusion" to you? If Biden was so successful the voters would indicate that in their poll responses, but they are not and it is not because of these "lies" you are mumbling about.

 

What do you call it in your world, hocus pokus?? LOL

it doesn't shape and/or obscure the reality that Trump is VASTLY superior to Biden on the issues on the critical path for voters, and the proof is right in front of your eyes in real hard data.

[scottiejohn]

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

Have to say that Trump and his acolytes are good at repeating lies and misrepresenting facts to change poll voters perceptions. It will soon change when the Dems go on the offensive with truth and facts. Biden will beat Trump and MAGA as in 2018, 2020 and 2022.

Please let us hope and pray that you are correct!

I was going to add that it would help if the MAGA loonies came to their senses then realised that of course as MAGA troglodytes they have no senses and have no idea where the cave exit is!

[illisdean]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

If you believe Trump is going to beat Biden in the election, but that’s just an opinion, if you believe that opinion then good for you.

 

Biden is doing a stellar job of beating himself. Trump can just show up and collect the win. In a fair and fraud free election Trump wipes the floor with your boy Biden all day long. But, well, maybe Biden will get tossed out soon. This corruption investigation has become a formalized (by vote) impeachment inquiry and could spell disaster for him and his family members real soon. Such that when Trump assumes office Jan 2025 Biden (s) might find some pleasant surprises awaiting the from a new integrity based justice team.

 

Biden's bad, worst than bad, look at his polls and compare him to the guy he's trying with all his corrupt lawfare tactics to jail, but cannot. Speaks volumes, the voters know Biden is corrupt, mentally unfit, dangerously flawed on foreign policy, border security, thinks American's believe his willful lies about everything, especially his cancer victim son who "died serving in Iraq". He's totally deluded and essentially useless to America now. He thinks Americans are stupid enough to believe all his lies about his border insurrection. Hopefully he gets whats coming to him and ends up where he belongs. He's done enough damage to the country.

[Danderman123]

4 hours ago, illisdean said:

 Trump worked and finished 18 + hour work days 

How do you know Trump worked 18 hour days?

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, illisdean said:

This corruption investigation has become a formalized (by vote) impeachment inquiry and could spell disaster for him and his family members real soon.

You don't seem to be keeping up on current events. The impeachment inquiry is dead in the water.

 

Your posts are all stream of consciousness, long,  fact free rants. Do you really think you are convincing anyone?

 

Let's see if you can control yourself and make short posts with links backing up your opinions.

[illisdean]

2 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Have to say that Trump and his acolytes are good at repeating lies and misrepresenting facts to change poll voters perceptions.

 

Can you point out the lies for the benefit of the truth seekers here?

 

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/poll-biden-trump-economy-presidential-race-rcna136834#

[Danderman123]

Wow.

 

Someone is really wound up today.

 

Maybe the reality of Biden's massive win in South Carolina has spooked him.

[illisdean]

43 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

The impeachment inquiry is dead in the water.

 

Brother Jim faces congressional deposition on Feb 21, [Hunter] is on deck scheduled for Feb 28 so far. The Biden emails are subject to subpoena now as the WH and NARA refuse to release them to the judiciary committee, and the stonewalling continues. The show will go on despite what you want to believe, the facts will emerge all in time for Biden's toilet level polls to dip further. Be patient, there will be more juicy and illuminating details to be garnered during sworn depositions and the 1000's of Biden's pseudo emails.

 

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[candide]

2 hours ago, illisdean said:

 

Brother Jim faces congressional deposition on Feb 21, [Hunter] is on deck scheduled for Feb 28 so far. The Biden emails are subject to subpoena now as the WH and NARA refuse to release them to the judiciary committee, and the stonewalling continues. The show will go on despite what you want to believe, the facts will emerge all in time for Biden's toilet level polls to dip further. Be patient, there will be more juicy and illuminating details to be garnered during sworn depositions and the 1000's of Biden's pseudo emails.

 

In short, you have nothing.

[ozimoron]

Gideon Rachman, the chief foreign affairs columnist for the Financial Times, has penned a withering column claiming that a second Trump term will make Russian President Vladimir Putin's dreams come true.

 

All of this, he argues, is part of Trump's calculation that he can retake the White House by denying Biden any wins.

 

"If the freedom of Ukraine and the security of Europe are collateral damage in Trump’s bid to win back the White House, the former president seems to regard that as a price worth paying," he writes.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-putin-2667171823/

[Danderman123]

9 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Gideon Rachman, the chief foreign affairs columnist for the Financial Times, has penned a withering column claiming that a second Trump term will make Russian President Vladimir Putin's dreams come true.

 

All of this, he argues, is part of Trump's calculation that he can retake the White House by denying Biden any wins.

 

"If the freedom of Ukraine and the security of Europe are collateral damage in Trump’s bid to win back the White House, the former president seems to regard that as a price worth paying," he writes.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-putin-2667171823/

Lots of Trump supporters support the neoCommunist Putin.

 

**edit by moderator - correct the spelling of supporter.

[Skipalongcassidy]

On 12/20/2023 at 12:12 AM, Danderman123 said:

https://www.meidastouch.com/news/biden-beats-trump-in-nyt-poll-the-economy-is-strong-crime-drops-across-us-maga-cowards-run-away

 

Biden Beats Trump in NYT Poll, The Economy Is Strong, Crime Drops Across US, MAGA Cowards Run Away

This just in... Californians shocked by electric bills after rate hike: 'Like you're getting punished'

[Danderman123]

On 1/2/2024 at 5:30 AM, illisdean said:

Polls in the toilet, lowest job approval of any incumbent in history, and now impeachment inquiry focused on exposing the most corrupt politician in American history and his crime family. Wait, you ain't seen nothing yet, you think Biden's polls are low down in the turd bowl now, Comer and Jordan will sent them to the septic tank where they will stay. Bring it on. 

I guess you were counting on Russian intelligence services to bail Trump out with a fake impeachment of Biden.

 

Why do you think Russian intelligence wants Biden to lose?

[xylophone]

2 hours ago, illisdean said:

The two graph lines crossed on or about Aug 30 2021 after Biden botched the Afghan withdrawal costing the lives of 13 service members!

You mean the Afghan withdrawal which trump pushed for and signed the agreement upon; that one?

 

It was the military personnel which were responsible for any stuff up, and they were the same military personnel which served under trump, and if trump hadn't of signed the withdrawal agreement, then none of this would have happened, so sheet it back to the orange blob.

[Danderman123]

52 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Biden ignored the advise from his military command and botched the withdrawal, not Trump (Trump was out of office in case u missed that part) He had plenty of time to fix Trumps agreement if it was so bad 

Trump ordered rapid withdrawal from Afghanistan after election loss

 

President Donald Trump ordered a rapid withdrawal of all U.S. troops from Afghanistan and Somalia in the wake of his 2020 election loss, but senior officials never followed through on the plan, according to testimony released by the congressional January 6 committee on Thursday.

 

“The order was for an immediate withdrawal, and it would have been catastrophic,” said Rep. Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill., one of two Republican members of the special panel. “And yet President Trump signed the order.”