Former Speaker Ryan: ‘Trump’s not a conservative, he’s an authoritarian narcissist’

[charleskerins]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Does he pay you rent to live in your head?

Wow you have all the catchy little phrase    so cute      not much substance though -no surprise.  He doesn't pay his bills -pay attention 

[charleskerins]

18 hours ago, KhunLA said:

And that's one scary A$$ thought, considering her warmongering father.  

 

Anyone else seeing the 1st female president and WW III to follow if her star wasn't shot down.

Yes she should be judged on her fathers actions she is not her own person   -what bs.

[thaibeachlovers]

58 minutes ago, charleskerins said:

Why are they too old? DT is too Fascist to be President that is the only thing that matters now -too bad many Americans and journalists can't see the forest for the trees.  Very naive .

Have you even seen Biden on tv recently to know that he's too old for the job? I've looked after geriatrics that are more with it than he is.

[thaibeachlovers]

57 minutes ago, charleskerins said:

Yes she should be judged on her fathers actions she is not her own person   -what bs.

I judge her on her own self and I don't like what I see. It's great that she lost her seat in congress as we don't need people like her running the US.

I wonder if she will stand for POTUS, if she can find anyone to give her money to do so? If she does I'll enjoy seeing her humiliated.

 

[charleskerins]

12 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I judge her on her own self and I don't like what I see. It's great that she lost her seat in congress as we don't need people like her running the US.

I wonder if she will stand for POTUS, if she can find anyone to give her money to do so? If she does I'll enjoy seeing her humiliated.

 

Yes " we " need people that kowtow to the orange Fascist   rather then follow the Constitution 

No   "we" need people that follow the Constitution.

[Rimmer]

Off topic post removed

[charleskerins]

On 12/14/2023 at 2:00 PM, spidermike007 said:

Tell it like it is. And never forget, despite all the boasting to the contrary, 17 of his businesses have failed in the past few  decades. Some at huge losses. Trump Steaks, Trump Shuttle Airline ($120 million in losses between 1988 and 1990), GoTrump, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, Trump University, Trump Ice, The New Jersey Generals, Tour de Trump, Trump Network, Trump Magazine, Trumped!. Many businesses that licensed his name went bankrupt, or went out of business. And he had between four and six major bankruptcies (depending on the source), including the Trump Taj Mahal (which he spent $1.2 billion building, and was $3 billion in debt within a year of opening), Trump's Castle, Trump Place Hotel (which was very successful prior to Trump buying it in 1988, and he managed to put it into $550 million in debt by 1992!), Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts ($1.8 billion in debt by 2004, bankrupt in 2009) , and Trump Entertainment Resorts. There are likely others. And this does not take into account the 3,600 lawsuits he was involved in as of the time he took office, the vast majority of which were filed by small contractors against his companies for non payment, or total default. Many of these contractors were crushed. It is part of his M.O. Are these failures and traits the result of being a narcissist? You bet they are.

 

Then he failed miserably as president, and was likely the 43rd worst ever. God forbid he get's re-elected. All bets are off, at that point. I only wish he had a better opponent.

Spider -better opponent ? What's the problem with Joe 

[charleskerins]

On 12/14/2023 at 2:01 PM, Gandtee said:

As an outside observer. What was the United States of America is now deemed The DisUnited States of America by other countries. Trying to extract itself from a narcissistic sycophantic ex President accused of corruption. But it seems most Americans are jollied along and love the raxxa matazz by flamboyance. The will follow him. It must be the fake tan and bouffant hair style. So very sad.

It is not;  nor has it ever been most Americans.

[charleskerins]

Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay $148 million for false 2020 election claims  

Two of his main men Manafort and now Rudy g scum   yet the orange one gets to run . Americans are too complacent to stand up to the seditious Fascists hoping that the system will take care of them -it will not.   I prefer a Civil War now to save Democracy or maybe joe can declare the election rigged and refuse to leave.Hopefully he wins OUTRIGHT.

[Gandtee]

1 hour ago, charleskerins said:

It is not;  nor has it ever been most Americans.

Forgive me. Some Americans.

[rudi49jr]

Here’s an interesting titbit:

 

“A binder holding top-secret intelligence that contributed to a U.S. assessment that Russia tried to help throw the 2016 U.S. election to Donald Trump has been missing since the last days of his presidency, a source familiar with the issue said.

The Russia intelligence was included with other documents in a binder that Trump directed the CIA to send to the White House just before he left office so he could declassify materials related to the FBI probe of Russian interference in the 2016 vote, the source said.”

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/binder-with-top-secret-russia-intelligence-missing-since-end-trump-term-source-2023-12-15/

 

It is particularly interesting that Trump directed the CIA to send it to the White House just before he left office. Hmm, I wonder what happened to that binder….

[spidermike007]

4 hours ago, charleskerins said:

Spider -better opponent ? What's the problem with Joe 

Way too old. And a terrible running mate. A decent man. But, past his prime, as is Trump. If Trump ever even had a prime. 

[charleskerins]

3 hours ago, Gandtee said:

Forgive me. Some Americans.

too many

[charleskerins]

1 hour ago, rudi49jr said:

Here’s an interesting titbit:

 

“A binder holding top-secret intelligence that contributed to a U.S. assessment that Russia tried to help throw the 2016 U.S. election to Donald Trump has been missing since the last days of his presidency, a source familiar with the issue said.

The Russia intelligence was included with other documents in a binder that Trump directed the CIA to send to the White House just before he left office so he could declassify materials related to the FBI probe of Russian interference in the 2016 vote, the source said.”

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/binder-with-top-secret-russia-intelligence-missing-since-end-trump-term-source-2023-12-15/

 

It is particularly interesting that Trump directed the CIA to send it to the White House just before he left office. Hmm, I wonder what happened to that binder….

You know that Russian "nothing " burger ?   It was a big mac        the guy is a fing traitor

[Thingamabob]

Paul Ryan is a lying, two-faced, treacherous scumbag.

[JCauto]

On 12/14/2023 at 10:33 AM, KhunLA said:

Cheney ... what a joke.

 

A bit telling when your own party casts you aside. 

It is, just not in the way you think. When someone with a long record of voting based on conservative principles is cast aside in favor of completely inexperienced culture warrior politicians whose "principles" consist of following whatever whim the leader gets in his scatterbrained head that day, you have today's Republican Party. This is why you have experienced politicians, they understand how to negotiate, compromise and write legislation that can pass both Houses of Congress and become enacted. 

 

Recall how Trump and your favorite "new" politicians campaigned on completely ending Obamacare and putting in a better health care bill then couldn't do that even when in control of the House, Senate and Presidency. Sort of like hiring a bunch of novices then wondering why they don't know what they're doing and are so ineffective. Not that I'm complaining, one can't imagine the damage that might be caused by these same people who don't stand for or understand anything. 

[JCauto]

On 12/15/2023 at 4:35 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO the world has had a lucky escape when she got the boot.

Why are so many women in the US congress just awful people?

Because that's the way misogynists think - any woman who has power is a threat to them regardless of their point of view, skills, intelligence or other characteristics. It's indeed sad. 

[BusyB]

On 12/14/2023 at 7:22 AM, Jingthing said:

Historically it's a thing that happens that people democratically decide to elect dictators.

That's what's happening now and it will happen unless the trump train wreck can somehow be stopped.

But democracy once lost is incredibly difficult to ever restore.

They still have elections in Russia but they aren't real.

If that's what Americans want, by heck, that's what they're gonna get.

 

When the crowds were given the choice between Jesus, who'd said ''Hey guys, let's all be nice to each other'' and the epitome of narcissistic tyranny, the murderer, who did they chose?

 

A lesson one should always bear in mind.

[rudi49jr]

59 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Paul Ryan is a lying, two-faced, treacherous scumbag.

No argument here. But in this case, for once, he’s actually telling it like it is: Trump is indeed an authoritarian narcissist. And that’s putting it mildly.

[soalbundy]

On 12/14/2023 at 1:17 PM, ThaiFelix said:

The people of the US have failed themselves.  How can almost 50% want this incompetent egotistical pathological liar in office, I mean its not like anybody doesnt know.

Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public.

[Phulublub]

On 12/15/2023 at 7:01 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Don't pay it enough mind to waste time "hoping" on it. IMO it's just political BS designed to get clicks for money for media. Trump wins or loses makes no difference to my actual life.

However, I'd like to see him win to get more of those U Tube VDOs of the snowflakes crying.

Sadly, if Trump wins, it may make a huge difference to everyone's lives.  And not for the better

 

PH

[Tug]

6 hours ago, rudi49jr said:

Here’s an interesting titbit:

 

“A binder holding top-secret intelligence that contributed to a U.S. assessment that Russia tried to help throw the 2016 U.S. election to Donald Trump has been missing since the last days of his presidency, a source familiar with the issue said.

The Russia intelligence was included with other documents in a binder that Trump directed the CIA to send to the White House just before he left office so he could declassify materials related to the FBI probe of Russian interference in the 2016 vote, the source said.”

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/binder-with-top-secret-russia-intelligence-missing-since-end-trump-term-source-2023-12-15/

 

It is particularly interesting that Trump directed the CIA to send it to the White House just before he left office. Hmm, I wonder what happened to that binder….

I’m sure it’s just the tip of the iceberg we rational Americans remember day one of his (term)the Russians in the oval then on down to Langley to insult the CIA in front of the wall of stars ……..the threats to nato the fawning over the absolute worst of the criminal despots (Putin Kim) helenskey were he deficated on our security institutions……..yup just the tip of the iceberg in my humble opinion………

[Dave0206]

12 hours ago, JCauto said:

It is, just not in the way you think. When someone with a long record of voting based on conservative principles is cast aside in favor of completely inexperienced culture warrior politicians whose "principles" consist of following whatever whim the leader gets in his scatterbrained head that day, you have today's Republican Party. This is why you have experienced politicians, they understand how to negotiate, compromise and write legislation that can pass both Houses of Congress and become enacted. 

 

Recall how Trump and your favorite "new" politicians campaigned on completely ending Obamacare and putting in a better health care bill then couldn't do that even when in control of the House, Senate and Presidency. Sort of like hiring a bunch of novices then wondering why they don't know what they're doing and are so ineffective. Not that I'm complaining, one can't imagine the damage that might be caused by these same people who don't stand for or understand anything. 

I really don't understand you're scepticism regarding the new health care plan rump and the Republicans were going to replace Obama care with. It was going to be great in fact the greatest you really think they would take a vote to repeal and replace Obama care if they didn't have a plan?

It's just unfortunate many years later it still has not been revealed but I'm sure it's going to be great otherwise why would the poor people in many Republican states vote against there own interests?

[WDSmart]

I agree completely.

I am a US citizen and a lifelong registered Democrat. Years ago, I used to respect most Republicans, even though I disagreed with their conservative views. I listened to their arguments and understood where they were coming from. Now, especially the Trump MAGA supporters, are just spouting non-democratic, fascist chaos.

I'm very concerned for my home country and expect an upsurge in public violence in the now less-than-a-year period leading up to the 2024 presidential election. I believe no matter which side wins, the other side will claim fraud and not accept the outcome. Then, I don't know what will happen, but it won't be good. 

[thaibeachlovers]

On 12/14/2023 at 8:00 PM, spidermike007 said:

Then he failed miserably as president, and was likely the 43rd worst ever. God forbid he get's re-elected. All bets are off, at that point. I only wish he had a better opponent.

a/ That's debatable. IMO he was brilliant at upsetting the wokesters, and for me that's a victory.

b/ Most people on here don't believe God exists, so God isn't coming to help you.

c/ You and me both. IMO the bad joke will be unleashed on the world if he wins when he either dies of age related problems, or has to step down as too senile to continue and Harris is inflicted on us all.

[thaibeachlovers]

26 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I am a US citizen and a lifelong registered Democrat. Years ago, I used to respect most Republicans, even though I disagreed with their conservative views. I listened to their arguments and understood where they were coming from. Now, especially the Trump MAGA supporters, are just spouting non-democratic, fascist chaos.

Trump MAGA supporters didn't just appear one day- they were created over time by Washington, and are so hostile to Washington and all who sail in her that they will even elect someone like Trump to burn it to the ground, after which they will dance and sing hallelujah that the wicked witch is gone.

Seriously, asking why people voted for Trump without understanding why they did so is just <deleted> in the wind.

To understand why they thought America today ( or in 2016 ) is/ was so bad that they had to elect Trump, just take a long hard look at Washington.

Perhaps it's easier to see Washington's faults when not living in America, but I can certainly see the rot behind the edifice, and there is a lot of rot to be seen.

 

Trump isn't someone that would have a hope of being POTUS except that Washington is so bad that someone had to be elected to attack it from within. Trump might have done better had not he chosen the IMO vile Sessions who abandoned his responsibilities and left Trump to the haters to try and destroy. If hell exists, Sessions is headed there IMO.

[thaibeachlovers]

13 hours ago, Phulublub said:

Sadly, if Trump wins, it may make a huge difference to everyone's lives.  And not for the better

 

PH

He made my life better when he ditched the IMO vile APEC disaster in the making.

He also made a lot of young men's lives better by not starting any wars.

 

If he wins and doesn't start any wars, he'll be a winner in my book.

Finishing the wall would also be a good thing for the USA.

[thaibeachlovers]

15 hours ago, BusyB said:

 

When the crowds were given the choice between Jesus, who'd said ''Hey guys, let's all be nice to each other'' and the epitome of narcissistic tyranny, the murderer, who did they chose?

 

A lesson one should always bear in mind.

I gave that a heart because Trump didn't murder anyone , so you must be talking about the other guy, the man who voted for a few wars, while not actually fighting in one himself. Politicians are great at sending other people's sons to die, aren't they?

[thaibeachlovers]

15 hours ago, JCauto said:

Because that's the way misogynists think - any woman who has power is a threat to them regardless of their point of view, skills, intelligence or other characteristics. It's indeed sad. 

Ah yes, the old misogynist attack designed to frighten away anyone that thinks any woman might be bad. Doesn't work on me though, as I worked with thousands of them for many decades and had hundreds as my bosses. Men that don't actually know many women other than their mothers and a few girlfriends don't actually know much about women, though they may think they do. Bit sad IMO.

[WDSmart]

11 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Trump MAGA supporters didn't just appear one day- they were created over time by Washington, and are so hostile to Washington and all who sail in her that they will even elect someone like Trump to burn it to the ground, after which they will dance and sing hallelujah that the wicked witch is gone.

I agree with most of your recent post except this first part. Having lived in the USA most of my life, I always knew there were these types of people there - racists, homophobes, xenophobes, sexists, fascists, etc. But, I thought they made up no more than 10% of most of our citizenry. Now, I think the 40% or so that seems to be there now has always existed, and Trump (or Washington) did not "create" them, but Trump has allowed them to crawl out from rocks under which they were hiding.

However that happened, they are there now, out in the open, and, like you, I think no matter how the next presidential election goes, this could be the end of the civility in the USA and the start of a very chaotic and violent era.