I'm sitting here thinking about the old days and the old times when we were kids and mum would get dinner ready every night and we'd all eat together and then watch a movie or a series together on tv.   There were no mobiles, iPhones or electronic distractions with games or whatever.  We would look out for each other and make sure we got to school etc ...

 

Those family values are dead ....    nobody cares anymore because they're too busy with the mobile or problems with finances or the kids are off smoking pot with degenerates from down the road, and when they get caught stealing they get a slap on the wrist by the courts.

 

I wish I could just return to the old days of love within the family and not like now where there's so much fighting and problems and drugs and drinking and instability.

Before ... dad worked and kept the family together ...  mum cooked and cleaned the house and kept the family together .....

 

it's all dead and gone ....   why  ?

Because times change.  Our parents in the 70s/80s wished life was like the 50s/60s.

Maybe join the Amish?

I have no kids and don't want kids and I don't know how difficult it is to bring them or keep them on the right track.

 

For thinking adults, I think we all can still live a fulfilled life with values according to what we want.

I.e. when I eat with mf gf or friends, we don't look at our mobile phones all the time. Maybe one in a while because some message just arrived and maybe we want to answer that, but that might be in total not more than 5% of the time. We can do that - if we want.

I will also never have a screen in front of my face while I walk or drive. It's just stupid!

 

About criminals and law enforcement and drugs and all that, I think that is different in many areas and depends on the people who surround us. I know people with drug problems exist. But I don't know any personally. And many years ago, not everything was better. There was a time when drunk driving was not really seen as a serious problem. I think now people see it as a serious problem. Transportation is better with modern public transport and fewer black smoke trucks. Delivery services bring anything to us. That is IMHO a huge improvement. Instead of driving to a special area for special shops (i.e. electronic shops in Baan Moh), I just order things.

 

I know many people make their lives difficult by constantly trying to be like the Joneses on facebook and whatever. I don't use anything like that and I couldn't care less who is famous or cancelled on X. 

 

All together it is a lot about us and the company we keep. 

9 hours ago, steven100 said:

I'm sitting here thinking about the old days and the old times when we were kids and mum would get dinner ready every night and we'd all eat together and then watch a movie or a series together on tv.   There were no mobiles, iPhones or electronic distractions with games or whatever.  We would look out for each other and make sure we got to school etc ...

 

Those family values are dead ....    nobody cares anymore because they're too busy with the mobile or problems with finances or the kids are off smoking pot with degenerates from down the road, and when they get caught stealing they get a slap on the wrist by the courts.

 

I wish I could just return to the old days of love within the family and not like now where there's so much fighting and problems and drugs and drinking and instability.

Before ... dad worked and kept the family together ...  mum cooked and cleaned the house and kept the family together .....

 

it's all dead and gone ....   why  ?

Sometimes drinking alone can make one nostalgic about the past. Sometimes the OK times from the past become the best of times as we look back. 

 

But, if you're reading this from Thailand you've made a conscious decision to escape from the past. Best to make the best of things now, and don't think to mutt. 

10 hours ago, steven100 said:

I'm sitting here thinking about the old days and the old times when we were kids and mum would get dinner ready every night and we'd all eat together and then watch a movie or a series together on tv.   There were no mobiles, iPhones or electronic distractions with games or whatever.  We would look out for each other and make sure we got to school etc ...

 

Those family values are dead ....    nobody cares anymore because they're too busy with the mobile or problems with finances or the kids are off smoking pot with degenerates from down the road, and when they get caught stealing they get a slap on the wrist by the courts.

 

I wish I could just return to the old days of love within the family and not like now where there's so much fighting and problems and drugs and drinking and instability.

Before ... dad worked and kept the family together ...  mum cooked and cleaned the house and kept the family together .....

 

it's all dead and gone ....   why  ?

Because we all remember the good parts forget the bad, or as kids we were not aware of them. 

Of course you would remember your youth foundly , who ever through human history did not? 

There were positives then and there were negatives , and there negatives now and there are positives. 

There are challenges with old age  now and there were even more back then

But as someone, I can't remember who said:

"I got nothing against old age, I hope to die of old age. "

IMO the older the better. 

24 minutes ago, sirineou said:

Because we all remember the good parts forget the bad, or as kids we were not aware of them. 

Of course you would remember your youth foundly , who ever through human history did not? 

Me ... my youth sucked more than it didn't.  Only started enjoying everyday after around 23 yrs old.   Had a lot of fun, but a lot of struggles, most revolving around being poor.

 

Something I definitely don't do, is reminisce about my pre 23 yr old days, except the sex.

1 minute ago, KhunLA said:

Me ... my youth sucked more than it didn't.  Only started enjoying everyday after around 23 yrs old.   Had a lot of fun, but a lot of struggles, most revolving around being poor.

Hey good morning!!

Sorry to hear that you did not have what you consider a good childhood.  But there is no denying it that most of us  were stronger,  healthier and our lives were less complicated. I say most of us because there are those who had a tough childhood. 

A while back I was reading an article somewhere. "The good old days were not so good"

Most of us, at our age, would not even be alive in the good old days.  Back in the good old days of horse a buggy , in the summer, in most cities everything was covered in layer of dried horse manure. 

11 hours ago, steven100 said:

I could just return to the old days of love within the family and not like now where there's so much fighting and problems and drugs and drinking and instability.

Before ... dad worked and kept the family together ...  mum cooked and cleaned the house and kept the family together .....

 

it's all dead and gone ....   why 

Can't see it myself, my son's life is similar to my life as a kid but better. My wife and I are home with him most of the time. Yesterday I even cooked him the same meal as my mom used to cook me, gammon steak and chips.

The past was never better, you've just got old, and old people like to remember when they were young.

Now is the best time ever, plenty of food and entertainment, and we're living the good life in a tropical paradise.

11 hours ago, steven100 said:

I'm sitting here thinking about the old days and the old times when we were kids and mum would get dinner ready every night and we'd all eat together and then watch a movie or a series together on tv.   There were no mobiles, iPhones or electronic distractions with games or whatever.  We would look out for each other and make sure we got to school etc ...

 

Those family values are dead ....    nobody cares anymore because they're too busy with the mobile or problems with finances or the kids are off smoking pot with degenerates from down the road, and when they get caught stealing they get a slap on the wrist by the courts.

 

I wish I could just return to the old days of love within the family and not like now where there's so much fighting and problems and drugs and drinking and instability.

Before ... dad worked and kept the family together ...  mum cooked and cleaned the house and kept the family together .....

 

it's all dead and gone ....   why  ?

 

 

I don't like nostalgia - or at least nostalgists who still think the 'good old days' were better.

 

 

I havre old school friends on FB who still talk about the 'best days of my life' being at school.

 

 

No they were not. Some days were great, some were not - absolutely the same in every phase of your life.

 

 

If you the think that life was better in the past then you are not living life properly in the current. 

9 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

If you the think that life was better in the past then you are not living life properly in the current.

yes, there is logic in this sentence ....

3 minutes ago, steven100 said:

yes, there is logic in this sentence ....

 

 

...it was an observation rather than a criticism.

 

 

I do feel sorry for people who, for whatever reasons, are not able to make the most of (and appreciate) what they have now.

 

 

It is a cliche but I follow the mantra of 'if you don't like what you have, change it - or change your attitude to it'

2 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

...it was an observation rather than a criticism.

 

 

I do feel sorry for people who, for whatever reasons, are not able to make the most of (and appreciate) what they have now.

 

don't dwell on the past and live for the future ...     !

5 minutes ago, steven100 said:

 

don't dwell on the past and live for the future ...     !

 

 

Yes......but respect, and embrace, the past - it is what got you to this point.

 

 

Memories are important - but building new memories is importanter!!  🙂

you know .... I've had 4 bottles already, and i'm mixing two Threads together here, but that's ok .....

but I was just thinking how in the west US UK and Australia we cared about family and we cared about our brothers and sisters ....  just like the pic below ...  the brothers cared for each other and watched out for each other ....      and then one comes to Thailand and all these c..  want to do is cheat you and steal from you as much as they can.

Some set ups here work out,  but not many ...

 

 

 

32 minutes ago, steven100 said:

and then one comes to Thailand and all these c..  want to do is cheat you and steal from you as much as they can.

 

Flippin ek... How've you managed to shoe horn a thread about nostalgia into a Thai-bash ????..... 

 

BTW - the same cheating scum have existed all over, throughout history...   Thailand is no different, modern times are no different, just the methods.

 

 

As far as old days... its clear all of our experiences are different...  I look back very fondly at my childhood, youth and pretty much all of my adulthood...   as another poster mentioned, we forget the 'rough' (most of us) and remember the past with these fond vignetted mental images... 

6 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Flippin ek... How've you managed to shoe horn a thread about nostalgia into a Thai-bash ????..... 

 

BTW - the same cheating scum have existed all over, throughout history...   Thailand is no different, modern times are no different, just the methods.

 

 

As far as old days... its clear all of our experiences are different...  I look back very fondly at my childhood, youth and pretty much all of my adulthood...   as another poster mentioned, we forget the 'rough' (most of us) and remember the past with these fond vignetted mental images... 

aha ... I guess i'm angry because I was brought up to respect people for what they are and not steal and cheat,  but here it's the exact opposite as you have to spot the honest one which is rare.  

 

so i think about family values, honesty and all that goes with it .....  but here that is trashed and non-existant imo..

that's what I meant .....  I understand everything what you say,   but I still have my values and respect ...  but here they don't.  

 

 

11 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Flippin ek... How've you managed to shoe horn a thread about nostalgia into a Thai-bash ????..... 

 

BTW - the same cheating scum have existed all over, throughout history...   Thailand is no different, modern times are no different, just the methods.

 

 

As far as old days... its clear all of our experiences are different...  I look back very fondly at my childhood, youth and pretty much all of my adulthood...   as another poster mentioned, we forget the 'rough' (most of us) and remember the past with these fond vignetted mental images... 

 

Richard ... do you drink   ?    like today or anytime ..

4 minutes ago, steven100 said:

Richard ... do you drink   ?    like today or anytime ..

Of course I do....    Wine, Whisky, Beer, not necessarily in that order...   

 

.... and sometimes I get nostalgic...     

 

...but booze doesn't distort my thoughts such that loose balance and 'Thai-bash'...  & I've been accused of being a Thai-basher plenty of times on this forum, but thats usually when discussing road traffic accidents, corruption, crappy policing and things like that... 

 

 

On the family values point... 

 

It is often discussed that family values here are stronger than they are in the West.

Thats not been my personal experience.... I don't see a great difference at all, trust, honesty, integrity... its the same with my extended family here (i.e. Wife's family) as it is my Family in my own country... 

 

... I understand mileage varies and experiences differ vastly - as often shown with the comments on this forum alone.

 

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, steven100 said:

aha ... I guess i'm angry because I was brought up to respect people for what they are and not steal and cheat,  but here it's the exact opposite as you have to spot the honest one which is rare.  

 

so i think about family values, honesty and all that goes with it .....  but here that is trashed and non-existant imo..

that's what I meant .....  I understand everything what you say,   but I still have my values and respect ...  but here they don't.  

 

 

Wow, where do you hang out? Because in over 30 years of coming here, I've only had one thing stolen and that's after 100's of different girls have stayed with me overnight. I find Thai's to be more honest (little white lies don't count) than most Farangs living in the west.

If one compares decades, the decline has been progressive and fast. We have now reached the point where segments of population no longer know what a man and a woman are. I don't know whether we are already at the bottom or we will fall again.

12 minutes ago, Trippy said:

Wow, where do you hang out? Because in over 30 years of coming here, I've only had one thing stolen and that's after 100's of different girls have stayed with me overnight. I find Thai's to be more honest (little white lies don't count) than most Farangs living in the west.

good joke na ...  stay here 20 yrs and see the real side ....   but hey '  just my opinion

26 minutes ago, Trippy said:

Wow, where do you hang out? Because in over 30 years of coming here, I've only had one thing stolen and that's after 100's of different girls have stayed with me overnight. I find Thai's to be more honest (little white lies don't count) than most Farangs living in the west.

 you haven't stayed here continuous for a long time. You don't know village Thai's. You only know Nana bar staff and their friend.  Please don't try to insult my intelligence with your 30 yrs of inaccuracy 

Think I'll get some good smoke, some beers on ice and head to the beach tomorrow for a walk down memory lane.

Ah yes, the good old days. Where shall I start? Anywhere I guess. My romantic contacts were limited to school lunch and recess and the occasional school dance once a year or chance meetings in the main street on friday nights. Like picking fly sh!t out of black pepper. No internet or mobile phones to make meetups dead simple. Endless nights cruising the town looking for weed because drug dealers didn't have telephones. International and domestic airfares that cost a king's ransom. A complete lack of proper building regulations which led to my girlfriend's sister being killed during a cyclone. No seat belts which led to my friend's brother being killed in a car accident. No industrial safety laws which led to my brother being killed in a workplace accident. Sh!t audio recordings and hyper expensive audio equipment which wasn't very good. The good ol' days. I look forward, always have.

22 hours ago, steven100 said:

...  mum cooked and cleaned the house and kept the family together .....

 

it's all dead and gone ....   why  ?

Maybe because women didn't want to be servants. 

A lot of things were fine if you were of a certain race, but definitely not if you weren't. 

24 minutes ago, Galong said:

Maybe because women didn't want to be servants. 

A lot of things were fine if you were of a certain race, but definitely not if you weren't. 

are you from Africa by any chance ...  

1 minute ago, steven100 said:

are you from Africa by any chance ...  

There’s nothing wrong with being from Africa.

1 hour ago, zhounan said:

If one compares decades, the decline has been progressive and fast. We have now reached the point where segments of population no longer know what a man and a woman are. I don't know whether we are already at the bottom or we will fall again.

I once thought “Things could not get any worse” and I was completely wrong.  Things can always get worse; if you are lucky, it will be by a small amount.

1 minute ago, StreetCowboy said:

There’s nothing wrong with being from Africa.

read your comment....  read my question ....   are you uneducated ?   I did not say anything was wrong with Africa.

Are you uneducated ?     I think so.