Despite U.S. pressure, the idea of a Palestinian state seems farther away than ever

[thaibeachlovers]

19 hours ago, ezzra said:

Just so you know the Israeli government is starting an inquest as what took place back there and the cause of

the 100 + Palestinians...

and I will be astonished, astonished I say, if it doesn't exonerate the israeli cowards that fired on starving people without any weapons, other than "looking threatening".

[Skipalongcassidy]

11 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

As you appear to consider yourself an authority on the Koran, perhaps you can quote the part that says a jihad is required against israel.

 Since Israel is a nonbeliever... thus:

 

The word "jihad" is widely used to describe a war for the faith against unbelievers.

[ozimoron]

8 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

 Since Israel is a nonbeliever... thus:

 

The word "jihad" is widely used to describe a war for the faith against unbelievers.

 

Only by the illiterate.

 

https://www.learningforjustice.org/magazine/publications/what-is-the-truth-about-american-muslims/misunderstood-terms-and-practices

[Bkk Brian]

34 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

We seem to be having a case of "victim blaming" where trucks were running over people for no apparent reason other than they are Palestinians.

You know more than the UN who visited the hospital then?

 

Giorgios Petropoulos, head of the Gaza sub-office of the UN Co-ordinator for Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) told the BBC he and a team sent to al-Shifa hospital found a large number of people with bullet wounds.

He said all but a handful of the 70 to 80 patients in the emergency room he visited had been injured during the convoy incident.

In addition to those with bullet wounds, he said doctors had treated many who had fallen down or been trampled - but he was unable to say with certainty which group was larger.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68454348

[Skipalongcassidy]

13 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Only by the illiterate.

 

https://www.learningforjustice.org/magazine/publications/what-is-the-truth-about-american-muslims/misunderstood-terms-and-practices

The propaganda machine worked on you... muslims deny publicly but the reality remains that all terrorists are muslim and they all shout  "الله أكبر" as they murder.

[ezzra]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The problem with that is that the West Bank and Gaza land does not belong to israel. Didn't in 1947 and still doesn't. Israel illegally occupies stolen land, and there is no getting around that.

There's no problems here as NO BODY in Israel would want anything to do with either of those hornet nests, the only problem

is that the concern that weapons and explosive will be manufactured there to be used against the Israeli public,

something that Israel will not tolerate to...

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, ezzra said:

There's no problems here as NO BODY in Israel would want anything to do with either of those hornet nests, the only problem

is that the concern that weapons and explosive will be manufactured there to be used against the Israeli public,

something that Israel will not tolerate to...

 

Why is it OK for the Israelis to manufacture weapons to use against the Palestinian public?

[ezzra]

6 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Why is it OK for the Israelis to manufacture weapons to use against the Palestinian public?

This has to be the dumbest question anyone asked so far.. Really??

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

 

Why is it OK for the Israelis to manufacture weapons to use against the Palestinian public?

It's not, but Israel does not manufacture weapons to use against the Palestinian public, Israel manufactures weapons to use against Hamas/Palestinian militants. That civilians are killed incidentally is just an unfortunate result of war. 

 

Do you understand the difference? 

[ozimoron]

Just now, ezzra said:

This has to be the dumbest question anyone asked so far.. Really??

 

Really. Nations committing genocide shouldn't be allowed anywhere near weapons.

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

It's not, but Israel does not manufacture weapons to use against the Palestinian public, Israel manufactures weapons to use against Hamas/Palestinian militants. That civilians are killed incidentally is just an unfortunate result of war. 

 

Do you understand the difference? 

 

No. Israel did use the weapons against Palestinian civilians. Your post makes no sense.

 

Killed incidentally is the most abject apology for genocide I have ever read.

Edited March 5 by ozimoron

[ezzra]

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[ezzra]

8 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Really. Nations committing genocide shouldn't be allowed anywhere near weapons.

Keep this logic up and you'll be awarded the dunce trophy of the week...

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, ezzra said:

Keep this logic up and you'll be awarded the dunce trophy of the week...

 

Thanks! I am a moron after all.

[ezzra]

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

 

Thanks! I am a moron after all.

The only thing i fully agree with you on...

[ozimoron]

11 minutes ago, ezzra said:

The only thing i fully agree with you on...

 

Your post says more about you than me.

[ezzra]

15 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Your post says more about you than me.

Yeah well.. It takes one to know one, goes the old proverb...

[Yellowtail]

37 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

No. Israel did use the weapons against Palestinian civilians. Your post makes no sense.

 

Killed incidentally is the most abject apology for genocide I have ever read.

 

So far, Palestine has killed about three Israeli citizens for each IDF solider killed, while Israel has killed only two Palestinians for each Palestinian combatant killed. 

[Jeff the Chef]

18 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

 

So far, Palestine has killed about three Israeli citizens for each IDF solider killed, while Israel has killed only two Palestinians for each Palestinian combatant killed. 

 

And of course you have links to substantiate those figures?

[Yellowtail]

17 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

And of course you have links to substantiate those figures?

Of course. 

[Jeff the Chef]

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Of course. 

 

Would you like to share them or take the post down?

[Yellowtail]

1 hour ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Would you like to share them or take the post down?

Can you take yours down? 

[Yellowtail]

1 hour ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Would you like to share them or take the post down?

Casualties of the Israel–Hamas war - Wikipedia

[Neeranam]

22 hours ago, Jingthing said:

You're missing understanding what Zionism is.

You miss what freedom is.

[Neeranam]

6 hours ago, ozimoron said:

 

Why is it OK for the Israelis to manufacture weapons to use against the Palestinian public?

The world should have trade bans on US products. The USA make most of the bombs that kill innocent women and children in Gaza. tens of thousands of them.

[Neeranam]

4 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

And of course you have links to substantiate those figures?

Of course he doesn't, totally made up.

 

[Yellowtail]

20 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Of course he doesn't, totally made up.

 

I posted the link liar. 

[thaibeachlovers]

15 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

And of course you have links to substantiate those figures?

Don't hold your breath waiting. I very much doubt that such would be available from any reliable source. However the IDF could probably come up with something to say that all 2.3 million Gazans are, or will grow up to be terrorists.

[WDSmart]

There's a new Topic on this Forum about the recent UN allegation of rape and other mistreatment of Israeli civilians on Oct 7 and now of the hostages that Hamas has. I'm sure it would also be of interest to those on this Topic. Its link is:

 

[ozimoron]