The prospect of a second Trump presidency has the intelligence community on edge

[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, Roo Island said:

Everything you read in a newspaper is propaganda? Are you reading Chinese or Russian papers?

 

Several polls have been taken and Trump ended up as the worst president ever. Seems like your disdain for credible media outlets is keeping you in an echo chamber?

 

MSM doesn't brainwash people. Far right media outlets do along with associated politicians. Specifically Trump. Biggest liar ever. Hopefully you are aware of this?

Spoken like a brainwashed person that believes everything on MSM and polls.

 

I don't read newpapers any more as they became so bad, and tv is just rubbish and contaminated by PC.

 

Why do you think I care if Trump lies? I expect all politicians to lie, and never had to revise that opinion.

The only reason I support Trump is that he might be the only candidate left to go against Biden, and I really, really want to see Biden defeated in November.

 

 

 

[Yellowtail]

56 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

The big problem is many take these opinions as facts. Proven by what's posted here. As for Fox, they aren't opinion hosts. Pure misinformation to grab people who like to hear these stories.

Everything I see linked to here from CNN, NYT or any number of other media outlets are full of deception. 

[Roo Island]

47 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Agree with first sentence.

 

I always assumed Fox was entertainment.

Agreed. Sadly, some believe the entertainment. Thus, one of the reasons for the political divide. And, misinformation.

[Roo Island]

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Everything I see linked to here from CNN, NYT or any number of other media outlets are full of deception. 

Drank the kool-aid and fallen for the propaganda. You are a perfect example of this. NYT is one of the best media outlets in the world. Hands down. It just doesn't push the narrative you want.

[Roo Island]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/03/florida-measles-outbreak-preventable

 

Florida is swamped by disease outbreaks as quackery replaces science

 

The state is in the grip of a measles outbreak, yet Joseph Ladapo, the surgeon general, continues to ignore medical science to stop it

Edited March 4 by Roo Island

[G_Money]

11 hours ago, heybruce said:

The deficit went up dramatically while Trump was President, starting before Covid.  That is a fact.  https://www.thebalancemoney.com/us-deficit-by-year-3306306

 

No amount of opinions can change that fact.  That's why opinions are not valid sources for supporting claims. 

 

Pointing out the obvious is not censorship, but it is obviously a waste of time when dealing with Trump supporters.

Along with Obama and Biden.  They’re all guilty of deficit increases.

 

Somebody had to pay for the Obama phones, student loans forgiveness and now possibly reparations to be paid to people who were never slaves, paid for by people who were never slave owners.  

[Hawaiian]

1 hour ago, Roo Island said:

Trump cozied up to North Korea, China, Turkey, Syria, etc.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/controversial-dictators-leaders-donald-trump-praised/story?id=40373481

 

MBS brutally murdered an American citizen. Trump did nothing because he got a huge project there. Guess that you didn't know about it? Or Kushner's billion dollar deal? Wow.

 

https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/saudi-arabias-dar-al-arkan-signs-deal-with-trump-family-oman-project-2022-11-20/

 

Saudi Arabian real estate developer Dar Al Arkan said it signed an agreement with former U.S. President Donald Trump's company to use the Trump Brand for its $4 billion project in the Gulf state of Oman that includes a golf course, hotel and villas.

...........

He enjoyed close ties with Gulf states during his tenure as president, including Saudi Arabia which has invested $2 billion with a firm of Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law and former aide, incorporated after Trump left office.

It's no secret about Trump's and Kushner's business dealings.  That said, it is better to be on the right side of Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States.  Their tremendous wealth is often used for political purposes. The U.S. does the same thing throughout the world; buying friendship and loyalty.  It's all about money.

If enough countries join BRIC and abandon the dollar the U.S. is screwed.  No more printing money indiscriminately, followed by austere budgets and high inflation.  

Yes, Trump should have said something about Khashoggi's murder.  Was it was mentioned in private?  We may have to wait for another Julian Assange to find out.

[G_Money]

7 hours ago, heybruce said:

Scary to think of leaving the echo chamber, isn't it?

I’m following yourself and Roo.

[G_Money]

6 hours ago, heybruce said:

Trump, on the other hand, threatened decades old alliances, cozied up to corrupt autocrats, and did nothing for hours while the mob he summoned to Washington rampaged through the Capitol.

 

Yep, worst President ever.

 
Where are your facts?

[G_Money]

3 hours ago, Roo Island said:

Escape your echo chamber. Bizarre how some get stuck in there.

 

Fox News is ok. It's the opinion hosts that are liars. As shown for Tucker above. Sad some fall for the lies. Heck, actually like them.

Of course you can prove they’re liars?   Similar to Biden.

[Hawaiian]

1 hour ago, Roo Island said:

Trump cozied up to North Korea, China, Turkey, Syria, etc.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/controversial-dictators-leaders-donald-trump-praised/story?id=40373481

 

MBS brutally murdered an American citizen. Trump did nothing because he got a huge project there. Guess that you didn't know about it? Or Kushner's billion dollar deal? Wow.

 

https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/saudi-arabias-dar-al-arkan-signs-deal-with-trump-family-oman-project-2022-11-20/

 

Saudi Arabian real estate developer Dar Al Arkan said it signed an agreement with former U.S. President Donald Trump's company to use the Trump Brand for its $4 billion project in the Gulf state of Oman that includes a golf course, hotel and villas.

...........

He enjoyed close ties with Gulf states during his tenure as president, including Saudi Arabia which has invested $2 billion with a firm of Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law and former aide, incorporated after Trump left office.

North Korea, China, Syria and Turkey.  What damage was done by Trump's praises? 

[Yellowtail]

18 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Drank the kool-aid and fallen for the propaganda. You are a perfect example of this. NYT is one of the best media outlets in the world. Hands down. It just doesn't push the narrative you want.

No, it pushes yours. 

[candide]

18 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/03/florida-measles-outbreak-preventable

 

Florida is swamped by disease outbreaks as quackery replaces science

 

The state is in the grip of a measles outbreak, yet Joseph Ladapo, the surgeon general, continues to ignore medical science to stop it

But Ladapo has a right to have his own opinions! 😆

Edited March 4 by candide

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, Hawaiian said:

North Korea, China, Syria and Turkey.  What damage was done by Trump's praises? 

Remember reset button and the left going ga-ga about pictures of Putin shirtless on a horse? 

 

The left used to love them some Putin, they used to love Trump as well. 

[dhupverg]

12 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

It's no secret about Trump's and Kushner's business dealings.  That said, it is better to be on the right side of Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States.  Their tremendous wealth is often used for political purposes. The U.S. does the same thing throughout the world; buying friendship and loyalty.  It's all about money.

If enough countries join BRIC and abandon the dollar the U.S. is screwed.  No more printing money indiscriminately, followed by austere budgets and high inflation.  

Yes, Trump should have said something about Khashoggi's murder.  Was it was mentioned in private?  We may have to wait for another Julian Assange to find out.

Confessions of an economic hitman explains in great detail how the US gov't and it's cronies stage coups and take over countries.  The book is well worth reading.

[G_Money]

3 hours ago, Walker88 said:

If you weren't glued to your Pattaya barstool adding adipose tissue to your ever-expanding girth, you could use actual USG websites to see that under trump the total National Debt, in just 4 years, grew by $8,400,000,000,000, or a 41% increase over the total National Debt since the US' founding. You would need to account for ALL additions to the debt, including the OBS stuff.

 

Playing the chubby little monkey with hands covering eyes and ears doesn't alter reality, just as trump producing farcical NFTs where he pretends he could be a fighter pilot or astronaut---as if the fatboy trust fund guy could ever be anything of the sort---doesn't alter the reality that he is a bloated, cowardly clown.

 

There is some hilarious testimony in Cassidy Hutchinson's transcript where she says trump would even run to the White House bunker when a Code Pink protest showed up on PA Ave. Press reports at that time noted his cowardice, and trump wanted to find out who leaked and have them executed for treason (sic), according to both Hutchinson and melania's former CoS.

 

That's your boy...afraid of the 70 year old women of Code Pink.....hardly fighter pilot material.

 

 

Great fiction writing!  Have you considered this as your new career.

 

Or will you be working as a contractor to get back all those weapons, tanks, personnel carriers, and helos that Biden donated to the Taliban during the biggest clusterf—- in US history.

 

Was that your hanging on the wing of the C-17 in your pajamas?

 

Your tenure with the CIA has left you with a vivid imagination.  Chemical induced?

Edited March 4 by G_Money

[xylophone]

2 minutes ago, G_Money said:

Great fiction writing!  Have you considered this as your new career.

 

Your tenure with the CIA has left you with a vivid imagination.  Chemical induced?

You just ooze jealousy and it comes through in all your posts. Sad man.

[Roo Island]

25 minutes ago, G_Money said:

Along with Obama and Biden.  They’re all guilty of deficit increases.

 

Somebody had to pay for the Obama phones, student loans forgiveness and now possibly reparations to be paid to people who were never slaves, paid for by people who were never slave owners.  

You seem to love misinformation. Obama took over from Bush after he tanked the economy.

 

Trump had a huge deficit. Tax cuts benefited him bigly. But you wouldn't know about this if you only follow dodgy media outlets.

 

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/030515/which-united-states-presidents-have-run-largest-budget-deficits.asp

 

President Trump continued the trend of pushing the deficit higher as he sought massive tax cuts and increased defense spending. His first budget for the 2018 fiscal year recorded a deficit of $779 billion.

 

[xylophone]

17 minutes ago, G_Money said:

Of course you can prove they’re liars?   Similar to Biden.

Been proven in court AND admitted by Fox themselves..........evidence and proof, but not good enough for simple minded cult followers, sadly.

[Roo Island]

26 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

It's no secret about Trump's and Kushner's business dealings.  That said, it is better to be on the right side of Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States.  Their tremendous wealth is often used for political purposes. The U.S. does the same thing throughout the world; buying friendship and loyalty.  It's all about money.

If enough countries join BRIC and abandon the dollar the U.S. is screwed.  No more printing money indiscriminately, followed by austere budgets and high inflation.  

Yes, Trump should have said something about Khashoggi's murder.  Was it was mentioned in private?  We may have to wait for another Julian Assange to find out.

Are you ok with Hunter Biden's business dealings? Tit for tat, right?

[ozimoron]

Go Nikki!

 

Nikki Haley wins the District of Columbia’s Republican primary and gets her first 2024 victory

 

 

[Roo Island]

23 minutes ago, G_Money said:

 
Where are your facts?

It's been posted many times before. Try a Google search. Get back to us with what you find out.

[Roo Island]

19 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

North Korea, China, Syria and Turkey.  What damage was done by Trump's praises? 

Yes. Emboldened dictators. Perhaps was a key item when Putin decided to invade Ukraine?

[Roo Island]

20 minutes ago, candide said:

But Ladapo has a right to have his own opinions! 😆

Not when you are a medical professional with an obligation to protect people. Science. Something that the right has been programmed to not believe. Shepple.

[Yellowtail]

5 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Been proven in court AND admitted by Fox themselves..........evidence and proof, but not good enough for simple minded cult followers, sadly.

once

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, Roo Island said:

Not when you are a medical professional with an obligation to protect people. Science. Something that the right has been programmed to not believe. Shepple.

Like men can menstruate, give birth and breast feed? 

[Roo Island]

19 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Remember reset button and the left going ga-ga about pictures of Putin shirtless on a horse? 

 

The left used to love them some Putin, they used to love Trump as well. 

The "left" never loved Trump. Even when he was a Democrat.

[Roo Island]

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Like men can menstruate, give birth and breast feed? 

Drinking already?

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, Roo Island said:

Drinking already?

 

They are just dog whisling code words for gay hate.,

[Yellowtail]

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

They are just dog whisling code words for gay hate.,

Most all hate comes from the left.