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Israel is at War - General discussion (pt3)

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3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Agreed. Did they think that if they murdered his 3 sons he'd just give up? Now he wants revenge for them. Any psychologist would have told them that, so one suspects they did it for that reason, to keep the conflict going. After all, there were suggestions that Hamas might have agreed to a hostage release in ongoing discussion, but I'd say those discussions will be as dead as the Dodo now. Job done.

 

Many mainstream media headlines focus on the assassination of the three sons of the Hamas political wing chief while overlooking the terrible unforgivable crime of killing his four innocent grandchildren.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

 

Many mainstream media headlines focus on the assassination of the three sons of the Hamas political wing chief while overlooking the terrible unforgivable crime of killing his four innocent grandchildren.

 

 

What unforgivable crime would that be? How do you know it was intended to kill the grandchildren?

32 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

 

Gaza aid delivery: Videos and eyewitness accounts cast doubt on Israel’s timeline of food distribution that turned deadly | CNN

 

CNN extensive investigation supported by videos and eyewitness accounts cast doubt on Israel’s story in relation to what has been knows as the ‘Flour Massacre’.

Aid delivery trucks were targeted on February 29 when Israeli soldiers accompanying the humanitarian convoy opened fire. More than 100 people were killed and 700 injured, according to Gaza’s health ministry.

 

CNN calls on Palestinian witnesses that were in the crowds to wrap up there investigation. Sounds legit

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17 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Get the conspiracy theories in quick and whatever you do believe the terrorists version of events!

 

What conspiracy you keep talking about? This line you keep repeating like a parrot is lazy and useless.

Israel has officially admitted responsibility for targeting the car which resulted in the killing of Ismail Haniyeh's three sons and four of his grandchildren. Where is the conspiracy here?

 

Justifying the killing of innocent young children is a disgusting low act and cast doubts on your sincerity when you talk about Israeli children.

8 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

What unforgivable crime would that be? How do you know it was intended to kill the grandchildren?

Israel army and Shen Beit carried out the assassination. They had credible intelligence about the 3 men but not about the 4 accompanying children in the same car?

 

 

9 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

 

What conspiracy you keep talking about? This line you keep repeating like a parrot is lazy and useless.

Israel has officially admitted responsibility for targeting the car which resulted in the killing of Ismail Haniyeh's three sons and four of his grandchildren. Where is the conspiracy here?

 

Justifying the killing of innocent young children is a disgusting low act and cast doubts on your sincerity when you talk about Israeli children.

Are you ever going to realise none of this would be happening if your crew did not execute the innocent in cold blood on 7th October.........:coffee1:

1 minute ago, Danny Australia said:

 

What conspiracy you keep talking about? This line you keep repeating like a parrot is lazy and useless.

Israel has officially admitted responsibility for targeting the car which resulted in the killing of Ismail Haniyeh's three sons and four of his grandchildren. Where is the conspiracy here?

 

Justifying the killing of innocent young children is a disgusting low act and cast doubts on your sincerity when you talk about Israeli children.

Wrong story Danny boy, your posts are ill thought out and always designed to flame, the Israelis killed 3 Hamas commanders which is good yeah, the responsibility of these grandchildren were down to the irresponsible parenting and nothing more. Don't blame the Israelis for killing terrorists, blame the terrorists for having them in the car in the first place, why can't you see the obvious!

This is the post I responded to that you misquoted me on, which is about the stampede that allegedly killed some Palestinians.

 

47 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Maybe there was one Hamas member among them, which gives them the right to murder them all. 

 

6 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

Israel army and Shen Beit carried out the assassination. They had credible intelligence about the 3 men but not about the 4 accompanying children in the same car?

 

 

The responsibility was with the terrorists!

Just now, Wobblybob said:

Wrong story Danny boy, your posts are ill thought out and always designed to flame, the Israelis killed 3 Hamas commanders which is good yeah, the responsibility of these grandchildren were down to the irresponsible parenting and nothing more. Don't blame the Israelis for killing terrorists, blame the terrorists for having them in the car in the first place, why can't you see the obvious!

This is the post I responded to that you misquoted me on, which is about the stampede that allegedly killed some Palestinians.

 

 

Indeed, terrorist with a price on their head probably using their kids as cover, well it is what they do, hide behind women and children...😏

8 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

Israel army and Shen Beit carried out the assassination. They had credible intelligence about the 3 men but not about the 4 accompanying children in the same car?

 

 

You tell me, how a drone high above can see inside a car? Even if they knew there were others in the car it still does not make it a crime as you claim.

Just now, transam said:

Indeed, terrorist with a price on their head probably using their kids as cover, well it is what they do, hide behind women and children...😏

It's like beating your head against a brick wall with some on here, the obvious is not obvious obviously to some!

3 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

 

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Four soldiers killed fighting in southern Gaza as war on Hamas hits six-month mark | The Times of Israel

 

Few days ago, Hamas killed those 4 Israeli soldiers in a sophisticated ambush in Al-Zannh area of Khan Younis in Gaza.

 

Isarel retaliated today by killing 4 innocent children. 

You have nowhere to go chap, in fact I think you are trolling now....🤨

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1 minute ago, Danny Australia said:

 

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Four soldiers killed fighting in southern Gaza as war on Hamas hits six-month mark | The Times of Israel

 

Few days ago, Hamas killed those 4 Israeli soldiers in a sophisticated ambush in Al-Zannh area of Khan Younis in Gaza.

 

Isarel retaliated today by killing 4 innocent children. 

Yes, IDF soldiers who are killed by the terrorists are all published and updated here, just so you can celebrate each one Danny

https://www.gov.il/en/departments/news/swords-of-iron-idf-casualties

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7 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

You tell me, how a drone high above can see inside a car? Even if they knew there were others in the car it still does not make it a crime as you claim.

Very sad to see how the twisted ideology is depriving some posters here of their humanity and common sense.

Justifying the killing of 4 innocent kids is beyond disgusting.  

There is no point in trying to reason with such ideologists who are ready to justify any crime. 

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11 minutes ago, transam said:

Are you ever going to realise none of this would be happening if your crew did not execute the innocent in cold blood on 7th October.........:coffee1:

And how many innocent Palestinian men women and children has the IDF and Israel executed both before and after October 7th, (including 4 children in the last few hours) which has been said many times, did NOT happen in a vacuum.

Just now, Danny Australia said:

Very sad to see how the twisted ideology is depriving some posters here of their humanity and common sense.

Justifying the killing of 4 innocent kids is beyond disgusting.  

There is no point in trying to reason with such ideologists who are ready to justify any crime. 

Twisting, you can talk....................:clap2:

Just now, Danny Australia said:

Very sad to see how the twisted ideology is depriving some posters here of their humanity and common sense.

Justifying the killing of 4 innocent kids is beyond disgusting.  

There is no point in trying to reason with such ideologists who are ready to justify any crime. 

You made a claim about IDF assassinating children, they did not, that's what's disgusting, your lies and again you call it a crime, what crime?

1 minute ago, billd766 said:

And how many innocent Palestinian men women and children has the IDF and Israel executed both before and after October 7th, (including 4 children in the last few hours) which has been said many times, did NOT happen in a vacuum.

I have no idea, but if your wife and kids were shot at point-blank range in front of each other whilst out having fun, what would you do, what would you say, what would you want done.........?   🤔

3 minutes ago, billd766 said:

And how many innocent Palestinian men women and children has the IDF and Israel executed both before and after October 7th, (including 4 children in the last few hours) which has been said many times, did NOT happen in a vacuum.

Another one making false claims did you forget the Admin post on the previous page?

 

"Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source."

 

 

Go girls:

 

The IDF says it has recently seen a massive spike in women joining combat units, releasing data from the first week of the military's March-April draft.

According to data from the IDF, the draft turnout for female troops in combat units was 157 percent, meaning 57% more than had initially planned for. For comparison, during the same period last year, the turnout was 102%.

The IDF says that the Border Defense Corps’ light infantry units saw a 158% draft turnout, and the corps’ Combat Intelligence Collection units -- where surveillance soldiers serve -- saw a 210% turnout.

The Artillery Corps saw a 195% draft turnout; the Air Force’s air defense array saw 114%; the Home Front Command’s Search and Rescue units saw 170%; and the Border Police saw 139%.

Similarly, among male conscripts, there has been a rise in soldiers drafting to combat units.

According to the data, the Combat Engineering Corps saw a 122% draft turnout, and the Artillery Corps saw 109%.

The IDF does not release the turnout data for the Armored Corps, but says it is a rise of 130% compared to March 2023's draft.

https://twitter.com/manniefabian/status/1778381164840939547

 

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4 minutes ago, billd766 said:

And how many innocent Palestinian men women and children has the IDF and Israel executed both before and after October 7th, (including 4 children in the last few hours) which has been said many times, did NOT happen in a vacuum.

Plus the hundreds, if not thousands of Palestinians jailed with no trial. This detention of Palestinians without trial has been a rallying cry and recruitment tool for Hamas. Hamas often exploits grievances and injustices faced by Palestinians to justify its attacks on Israel. The perception of Israel's oppressive policies, including administrative detention, can fuel radicalization and support for Hamas's violent tactics among disaffected individuals who see no other recourse for addressing their grievances.

 

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6 minutes ago, billd766 said:

And how many innocent Palestinian men women and children has the IDF and Israel executed both before and after October 7th, (including 4 children in the last few hours) which has been said many times, did NOT happen in a vacuum.

The four children travelling with their terrorist parents were not executed they were killed because their parents did not give two hoots about their safety!

3 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Plus the hundreds, if not thousands of Palestinians jailed with no trial. This detention of Palestinians without trial has been a rallying cry and recruitment tool for Hamas. Hamas often exploits grievances and injustices faced by Palestinians to justify its attacks on Israel. The perception of Israel's oppressive policies, including administrative detention, can fuel radicalization and support for Hamas's violent tactics among disaffected individuals who see no other recourse for addressing their grievances.

 

Oh, noooo........🤒

6 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Plus the hundreds, if not thousands of Palestinians jailed with no trial. This detention of Palestinians without trial has been a rallying cry and recruitment tool for Hamas. Hamas often exploits grievances and injustices faced by Palestinians to justify its attacks on Israel. The perception of Israel's oppressive policies, including administrative detention, can fuel radicalization and support for Hamas's violent tactics among disaffected individuals who see no other recourse for addressing their grievances.

 

A rather poor attempt to justify 7/10, when will you ever learn!

11 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Plus the hundreds, if not thousands of Palestinians jailed with no trial. This detention of Palestinians without trial has been a rallying cry and recruitment tool for Hamas. Hamas often exploits grievances and injustices faced by Palestinians to justify its attacks on Israel. The perception of Israel's oppressive policies, including administrative detention, can fuel radicalization and support for Hamas's violent tactics among disaffected individuals who see no other recourse for addressing their grievances.

 

Actually Hamas got all the recruits they needed from UNRWA schools in Gaza.

Worrying, the families will are going to be distraught hearing this. No wonder Hamas wants to string the talks out as long as possible with delusional demands.

 

Report: US officials fear most of the hostages held by Hamas could be dead

US officials tell the Wall Street Journal that there are fears that most of the Israeli hostages in Hamas captivity could be dead.

The report comes amid talks to secure a hostage release deal and a truce, with some Hamas sources indicating that they are unable to provide 40 living hostages from the elderly, women and female soldiers that Israel is demanding.

The report quotes US officials as saying that some were likely killed during Israeli strikes on Gaza, while others have died from health issues, including injuries suffered during their initial capture.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/report-us-officials-fear-most-of-the-hostages-held-by-hamas-could-be-dead/

3 hours ago, transam said:

I have no idea, but if your wife and kids were shot at point-blank range in front of each other whilst out having fun, what would you do, what would you say, what would you want done.........?   🤔

IF it were me I would like to have an idea who did it, and IF I were a Palestinian citizen, I would attempt to kill as many Israeli's as I could.

 

OTOH IF I were an Israeli citizen, I would probably feel the same way.

 

However IF I were an IDF soldier and was ordered to kill Palestinian women and children I would hope that I could refuse that illegal order, even though I would end up in the glasshouse, because the order IS illegal, no matter what Netanyahu and his war cabinet say.

Shocking report from UNICEF, saying  this kid is eating grass to try to stay alive. 

 

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