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Israel is at War - General discussion (pt3)

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30 minutes ago, transam said:

Indeed, I wonder if his mum knows........😱

 No I doubt it, she died in childbirth, RIP Mum.

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    Let's never forget that israel came to be when Irgun and Stern gang terrorism drove the British out of Palestine, and a terrorist ( Begin ) even  became PM. Born of terrorism, and IMO still uses

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    The following is a list of United Nations resolutions concerning Israel. As of 2023, the State of Israel had been condemned in 45 resolutions by the United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC).  

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    Founded in 1987, Hamas opposed the secular approach of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, rejected attempts to cede any part of Palestine, and embraced th

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13 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Were Hamas elected by the Palestinians in Gaza?

Are the Israeli's lawfully running an Apartheid state as an open prison/concentration camp?

Does the world of public opinion think that what the Israeli's are doing, have done is OK in the 21st Century?

Could anyone believe that the "Most Moral Army, the IDF" are as honest as the day is long?

Were Hamas elected by the Palestinians in Gaza?

 

No, they seized control from Fatah in the battle of Gaza. Check your history. The rest of your questions have nothing to do with your self professed support for Hamas terrorists.

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Were Hamas elected by the Palestinians in Gaza?

 

No, they seized control from Fatah in the battle of Gaza. Check your history. The rest of your questions have nothing to do with your self professed support for Hamas.

 

Are you a member of the IDF?

 

Your lying or WiKi is:

 

Legislative elections were held in the Palestinian territories on 25 January 2006 in order to elect the second Palestinian Legislative Council (PLC), the legislature of the Palestinian National Authority (PNA). The result was a victory for Hamas, contesting under the list name of Change and Reform, which received 44.45% of the vote and won 74 of the 132 seats, whilst the ruling Fatah received 41.43% of the vote and won 45 seats.[1]

The newly elected PLC met for the first time on 18 February 2006. Incumbent Prime Minister Ahmed Qurei tendered his resignation on 26 January 2006, but remained interim Prime Minister at the request of President Mahmoud Abbas. On 20 February, Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh was nominated to form a new government. The new government with Haniyeh as Prime Minister was sworn in on 29 March. As of May 2024, no new elections have been held since this one.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Palestinian_legislative_election#Opinion_polls

14 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Are you a member of the IDF?

 

Your lying or WiKi is:

 

Legislative elections were held in the Palestinian territories on 25 January 2006 in order to elect the second Palestinian Legislative Council (PLC), the legislature of the Palestinian National Authority (PNA). The result was a victory for Hamas, contesting under the list name of Change and Reform, which received 44.45% of the vote and won 74 of the 132 seats, whilst the ruling Fatah received 41.43% of the vote and won 45 seats.[1]

The newly elected PLC met for the first time on 18 February 2006. Incumbent Prime Minister Ahmed Qurei tendered his resignation on 26 January 2006, but remained interim Prime Minister at the request of President Mahmoud Abbas. On 20 February, Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh was nominated to form a new government. The new government with Haniyeh as Prime Minister was sworn in on 29 March. As of May 2024, no new elections have been held since this one.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Palestinian_legislative_election#Opinion_polls

 

No I am not. 

 

The Battle of Gaza or the Gaza civil war was a brief civil war between Fatah and Hamas that took place in the Gaza Strip from 10 to 15 June 2007. It was a prominent event in the Fatah–Hamas conflict, centered on the struggle for power after Fatah lost the 2006 Palestinian legislative election. The battle resulted in the dissolution of the unity government[3] and the de facto division of the Palestinian territories into two entities: the West Bank governed by the Palestinian National Authority (PNA), and the Gaza Strip governed by Hamas. Hamas fighters took control of the Gaza Strip, while Fatah officials were either taken as prisoners, executed, or expelled.[3][4] The Palestinian Centre for Human Rights reported that at least 161 people were killed and more than 700 were wounded during the fighting.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gaza_(2007)

 

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Britain's foreign secretary, Margaret Beckett, took an uncompromising line towards Hamas.

"The notion that somehow mounting a coup d'etat is something that should be rewarded by the international community seems to me to be completely bizarre," she told the BBC's World At One programme.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/jun/15/israel4

 

This is off topic so will be my last post on history

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Post making numerous unsubstaniated claims has been removed along with a reply. Posts from same poster subsequently comments on moderation have also been removed.

 

"Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source."

 

Lets keep this on topic please.

 

Getting real tired of people simply reporting minor issues about people they are disagreeing with. While we appreciate reports of serious violations, moderators are not here to fight your battles for you.

1 hour ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 No I doubt it, she died in childbirth, RIP Mum.

Then she may probably know............🥺

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This is escalating. The beginning of the end of the Israel state as we know it.

1 minute ago, owl sees all said:

This is escalating. The beginning of the end of the Israel state as we know it.

Then you woke up..............😂

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23 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

This is escalating. The beginning of the end of the Israel state as we know it.

Indeed, they are digging their own graves, continuing to bomb refugee camps. 

 

Several people have been killed and a number of others have been injured in Israeli bombing that targeted an UNRWA school housing displaced people in Shati refugee camp, located on the coast of Gaza City, according to our colleagues on the ground.

 

https://aje.io/t7k6fn?update=2958093

 

2 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Indeed, they are digging their own graves, continuing to bomb refugee camps. 

 

Several people have been killed and a number of others have been injured in Israeli bombing that targeted an UNRWA school housing displaced people in Shati refugee camp, located on the coast of Gaza City, according to our colleagues on the ground.

 

https://aje.io/t7k6fn?update=2958093

 

That's the same link you posted on the previous page, why are you ignoring the fact that many of those killed were terrorists?

 

‘Falling for Hamas tactics’: IDF names 9 terrorists killed in school strike, slams media

https://www.timesofisrael.com/falling-for-hamas-tactics-hagari-slams-world-media-coverage-of-strike-on-un-school/

Another Hamas UN base uncovered and destroyed

 

IDF says strike hit Hamas command room housed in container at Gaza City UN school

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Army doesn’t say how many gunmen hit; Palestinians say 15 dead, including at least 3 civilians; IDF identifies 17 terror operatives killed in Thursday strike on UNRWA school.

The Israel Defense Forces said Friday that they had carried out an airstrike on a Hamas command center that had been set up in a United Nations school in Gaza City’s Shati neighborhood, killing several members of the cell.

The strike comes a day after the IDF hit another UN school housing what it said was a compound used by dozens of terror operatives. The IDF on Friday also released the identities of another eight Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad operatives who were among those killed in that strike, bringing the number of named terror operatives so far to to 17.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-says-strike-hit-hamas-command-room-housed-in-container-at-gaza-city-un-school/

Israel’s war on Gaza may be “a curtain call” for the post-World War Tw0 international rules-based order, Amnesty International secretary general Agnes Callamard said on Thursday.

“The gravity of the violations being committed, the fact that we are witnessing them every day… the flimsy justification by western democracies - all of these warn… of a possible total collapse of the rules-based order,” she said.

Speaking at the Balfour Project annual conference in London, Callamard denounced the US and UK’s continued backing of Israel’s offensive in Gaza as “making a mockery” of international law.

The conference dealt with the question how “peace with justice” can be achieved in Palestine, but many of the speakers highlighted how the actions of the UK, US and other western governments are at odds with this goal.

 

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/war-gaza-may-be-curtain-call-international-order-amnesty-chief-warns

Great work IDF. Local Hamas authorities will put them all down as more Palestinians are killed.......lol

 

IDF says dozens of terror operatives killed in central Gaza, including head of Hamas rocket cell

The IDF says it has killed dozens of terror operatives amid an ongoing operation in east Buriej and east Deir al-Balah in the central Gaza Strip.
The operation began earlier this week, and is being carried out by the 98th Division.
Troops located tunnel shafts and demolished infrastructure used by terror groups in the area, the IDF says.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-says-dozens-of-terror-operatives-killed-in-central-gaza-including-head-of-hamas-rocket-cell/

14 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said:

The conference dealt with the question how “peace with justice” can be achieved in Palestine, but many of the speakers highlighted how the actions of the UK, US and other western governments are at odds with this goal.

I wonder if any government members were present? If so they must have had burning ears!

14 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Israel’s war on Gaza may be “a curtain call” for the post-World War Tw0 international rules-based order, Amnesty International secretary general Agnes Callamard said on Thursday.

Stating the blindingly obvious.

It's apparent to all but the willfully blind that when it comes to israel some western leaders are all too willing to ditch the rules. Shame on them for doing so when they take a 180 degree approach to Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

Gaza’s Government Media Office says the “Israeli massacre” at the Nuseirat refugee camp in central Gaza killed 210 Palestinians and wounded more than 400.

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/6/9/israels-war-on-gaza-live-nightmare-as-hospital-copes-with-nuseirat-dead

Gaza’s Government Media Office :saai:

 

The one the UN no longer uses...................

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Discrepancies in Gaza Casualty Figures: An Analysis of Hamas Data By Associated Press

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1329322-discrepancies-in-gaza-casualty-figures-an-analysis-of-hamas-data-by-associated-press/

 

 

Biden's Forgotten the Atrocities of October 7—But Israelis Can't

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1329320-bidens-forgotten-the-atrocities-of-october-7—but-israelis-cant/

 

 

Latest ISW Update:

 

NEW: Israeli War Cabinet minister Benny Gantz resigned from the coalition government on June 9. Gantz’s resignation will not on its own cause the collapse of the Netanyahu government. 

The IDF expects to conclude clearing operations in Rafah in the “next few weeks,” according to an Israeli Army Radio correspondent.

 

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40 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Latest ISW Update:

 

NEW: Israeli War Cabinet minister Benny Gantz resigned from the coalition government on June 9. Gantz’s resignation will not on its own cause the collapse of the Netanyahu government. 

The IDF expects to conclude clearing operations in Rafah in the “next few weeks,” according to an Israeli Army Radio correspondent.

 

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Good riddance to bad rubbish. 

 

What were his ideas that he did not see followed through on? 

7 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

An alternative view on Benny Gantz resignation from the BBC

 

 

That he is actually a Hamas supporter? What's new about that? 

That's ok, the IDF are on your tail and after you bro

 

'We will not surrender': Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh fumes after Israel frees hostages

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“Our people will not surrender, and the resistance will continue to defend our rights in the face of this criminal enemy,” Haniyeh reportedly said. “And if the occupation believes that it can impose its choices on us by force, it is delusional, and the movement will not agree to any agreement that does not achieve security for our people first and foremost.”

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-805433

11 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

That he is actually a Hamas supporter? What's new about that? 

 

Thanks for the information, do you have a link to confirm your statement?

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

That he is actually a Hamas supporter? What's new about that? 

 

You could be a spokesperson for the IDF with remarks like that.

 

If Gantz is a Hamas supporter his military career says otherwise:

 

Military career
Gantz was drafted into the IDF in 1977. He volunteered as a paratrooper in the Paratroopers Brigade. His first mission as a young conscript in 1977 was as part of the security detail for Egyptian President Anwar Sadat's visit to Israel. As a paratrooper, he fought in Operation Litani in March 1978 and also participated in a June 1978 raid against a Fatah training base in Lebanon. In 1979, Gantz became an officer after completing Officer Candidate School. He returned to the Paratroopers Brigade and served as a platoon leader and company commander, completed a course in the U.S. Army Special Forces, and fought in the First Lebanon War.

Later on, he led 890 "Efe" (Echis) paratroop battalion in counter-guerrilla operations in the South Lebanon security zone. In 1991, he commanded the commando unit that was on the ground in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, for 36 hours, securing the Operation Solomon airlift of 14,000 Ethiopian Jews to Israel.

He served in senior command positions during the Second Intifada and Second Lebanon War.

In the course of his military career, Gantz served as commander of the Shaldag Unit in the Israeli Air Force; commander of the 35th Paratroopers Brigade; commander of the Reserves Division in the Northern Command; commander of the Lebanon Liaison Unit; commander of the Judea and Samaria Division in 2000, before becoming the commander of the Israeli Northern Command in 2001; and as Israel's military attaché in the United States from 2005 until 2009, before becoming the deputy chief of the General Staff.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benny_Gantz

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