1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

 

Nobody here has ever professed to hating Jews. The legitimate hate is against Netanyahu and his war cabinet for both expressing islamophobic sentiment and conducting genocidal revenge attacks.

 

So you missed the post I was talking about talking about "understanding" people hating ALL Jews.

Don't insult my intelligence. 

21 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

No, doing what you perceive as patronizing other posters doesn't give me a superiority complex. However, reading your and a few others's posts on this forum does.

Again you are replying to posts that wasn't directed at you. Comprehension not your strong point?

Just now, Wobblybob said:

You insert words into your posts that are simply not true, why can't you be honest and truthful instead of trying to point score all the time. Your latest attempt was using the word "revenge" referring to the Israelis in Gaza, the Israelis would have to be pretty stupid to send in ground troops when they have enough weapons to do the job without loss of lives to themselves, and more to the point you would have to be pretty stupid to believe that this is a "revenge" attack.

 

How is it not a revenge attack? 30,000 dead Palerstinians was never going to be justifiable in any sane person's mind. I note that no person here has ever been willing to put up their hand and say that the bombings of Gaza were appropiate or that continued or even greater numbers of deaths in Rafah caused by an incursion there are justifiable. The pro Israel lobby here just wants to cry outrage and attack anyone who would hate on a country that openly commits genocide and flaunts ICJ court rulings.

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

So you missed the post I was talking about talking about "understanding" people hating ALL Jews.

Don't insult my intelligence. 

 

Sue. I can understand why people people might hate Jews. In particular I believe most Palestinians now hate Jews. It's been pointed out to you that understanding motivation does not mean that motivation is shared by the person who expresses that understanding. If you can't understand at all why someone might hate Jews then I think you are just being disingenuous. We don't have to agree with the sentiment to know that many have that sentiment and to comprehend the reasons why they may have that sentiment. The point previously made was that the number of people who do hate Jews has risen markedly in the past 5 months.

 

Genocide focuses the mind.

 

 

4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Nobody here has ever professed to hating Jews. The legitimate hate is against Netanyahu and his war cabinet for both expressing islamophobic sentiment and conducting genocidal revenge attacks.

 

Genocidal revenge attacks and islamophobic sentiment. Really? You forgot to add Israeli sub humans as you did in your other post. 

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

 

How is it not a revenge attack? 30,000 dead Palerstinians was never going to be justifiable in any sane person's mind. I note that no person here has ever been willing to put up their hand and say that the bombings of Gaza were appropiate or that continued or even greater numbers of deaths in Rafah caused by an incursion there are justifiable. The pro Israel lobby here just wants to cry outrage and attack anyone who would hate on a country that openly commits genocide and flaunts ICJ court rulings.

If you read my post to Hummin I explained why it is not a revenge attack.

4 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

Genocidal revenge attacks and islamophobic sentiment. Really? You forgot to add Israeli sub humans as you did in your other post. 

 

Let me be quite clear here. Natanyahu is an animal.

12 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

14 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Nobody here has ever professed to hating Jews. The legitimate hate is against Netanyahu and his war cabinet for both expressing islamophobic sentiment and conducting genocidal revenge attacks.

 

So you missed the post I was talking about talking about "understanding" people hating ALL Jews.

Don't insult my intelligence.

"Nobody here" and just "people" doesn't describe the same group.

1 minute ago, WDSmart said:

"Nobody here" and just "people" doesn't describe the same group.

 

I don't think that the notion that "other people" hate Jews is controversial. There was an allegation that some people here were such.

11 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Again you are replying to posts that wasn't directed at you. Comprehension not your strong point?

Comprehension is one of my strongest points. Waiting my turn is not.

12 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Sue. I can understand why people people might hate Jews. In particular I believe most Palestinians now hate Jews. It's been pointed out to you that understanding motivation does not mean that motivation is shared by the person who expresses that understanding. If you can't understand at all why someone might hate Jews then I think you are just being disingenuous. We don't have to agree with the sentiment to know that many have that sentiment and to comprehend the reasons why they may have that sentiment. The point previously made was that the number of people who do hate Jews has risen markedly in the past 5 months.

 

Genocide focuses the mind.

 

 

That post went beyond that. It was a strong defense of Jew hatred based on a one sided narrative of lies. As far as genocide, note that you conveniently yet again ignore what STARTED this current war. October 7. From Hamas. A terrorist organization explicitly in favor of genocide of Jews. Hamas is on record as intending to repeat October 7 attacks indefinitely until their genocidal goals are met. Yet somehow Israel is the bad guy for just not laying down baring their necks. It's really weird. Somehow only Jews are expected to passively accept genocide of their own people. 

 

Just now, Jingthing said:

That post went beyond that. It was a strong defense of Jew hatred. As far as genocide, note that you conveniently yet again ignore what STARTED this current war. October 7. From Hamas. A terrorist organization explicitly in favor of genocide of Jews. Hamas is on record as intended to repeat October 7 attacks indefinitely until their genocidal goals are met. Yet somehow Israel is the bad guy for just not laying down baring their necks. 

 

 

If anyone ignores what started this conflict it is you.

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

 

If anyone ignores what started this conflict it is you.

Stop playing that stupid game!

I said WAR. Not conflict.

42 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

No, doing what you perceive as patronizing other posters doesn't give me a superiority complex. However, reading your and a few others's posts on this forum does.

Again I never said that you, yourself and thee had a superiority complex, your problems are far more complex than that.🥴

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Stop playing that stupid game!

I said WAR. Not conflict.

 

weasel words. The conflict has been variously described as both for the past 70 years.

Just now, ozimoron said:

 

weasel words. The conflict has been variously described as both for the past 70 years.

Completely different things. Conflict and war.

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Completely different things. Conflict and war.

 

identical things. If you want to be pedantic a war can only occur between two nation states. This nas been proved to you but nothing shifts your talking points.

 

24 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Garbage!

What I was responding to was a B.S. post that professed "understanding" of hating ALL Jewish people everywhere in the world because of their twisted one side narrative on the history of Israel, their own sided characterization of this current war, and because they have heard SOME Jewish and/or Israeli voices that are extremely right wing. Again I say, Jew haters always have excuses all through history.

If you can't take a clear stand on the moral wrong of Jew hatred UNCONDITIONALLY, then I doubt you have a moral leg to stand on.

 

So far I see many missing a moral code in many debates here, where common sense and reasoning why things escalate in world politics. 

 

 

 

 

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

 

weasel words. The conflict has been variously described as both for the past 70 years.

Only because it gives you some wriggle room and it makes it easier for you to excuse the attrocities of 7/10!

29 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

You insert words into your posts that are simply not true, why can't you be honest and truthful instead of trying to point score all the time. Your latest attempt was using the word "revenge" referring to the Israelis in Gaza, the Israelis would have to be pretty stupid to send in ground troops when they have enough weapons to do the job without loss of lives to themselves, and more to the point you would have to be pretty stupid to believe that this is a "revenge" attack.

Im not sure which planet you live on. But humanity and emphasize do not exist for you. 

6 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Only because it gives you some wriggle room and it makes it easier for you to excuse the attrocities of 7/10!

 

Are you accusing me of condoning the October 7th terror attacks? Are you that craven? You are not going to force me to restate my previously stated position over and over again.,

 

 

Just now, Hummin said:

Im not sure which planet you live on. But humanity and emphasize do not exist for you. 

Planet Reality, what's the weather like on planet Pretence.

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Are you accusing me of condoning the October 7th terror attacks? Are you that craven?

Are you thin skinned or just paranoid, stop making things up. My post was very clear what was meant!

Just now, Wobblybob said:

Are you thin skinned or just paranoid, stop making things up. My post was very clear what was meant!

 

You unequivocaly accused me of condoning the terrorist attacks.

6 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Planet Reality, what's the weather like on planet Pretence.

Your reality is to spam the forum with pro genocide ideology from your safe haven, and think that is ok

Just now, ozimoron said:

 

You unequivocaly accused me of condoning the terrorist attacks.

You are very shifty when someone mentions 7/10 because it does not fit in with your caustic agenda, preferring to go to a time a long time ago instead of facing the truth of when this war actually started, ergo 7/10 HTH

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Your reality is to spam the forum with pro genocide ideology from your safe haven, and think that is ok

If Israel planned genocide in Gaza, there would be no ground troops in Gaza. Now be a good boy and let the adults have a sensible debate instead of falsely accusing other posters of which you are guilty!

6 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

You are very shifty when someone mentions 7/10 because it does not fit in with your caustic agenda, preferring to go to a time a long time ago instead of facing the truth of when this war actually started, ergo 7/10 HTH

 

That sentiment is delusional. Palestinians in all likelihood agree with me. They have often said so. You need to at least acknowledge that events prior to October 7th led to the events of October 7th if you are being intellectually honest.

19 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Im not sure which planet you live on. But humanity and emphasize do not exist for you. 

 

   Not for the group responsible for the Oct 7 terror attack , nope, no humility there from me .

Those inhumane people need to be erased 

4 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

If Israel planned genocide in Gaza, there would be no ground troops in Gaza. Now be a good boy and let the adults have a sensible debate instead of falsely accusing other posters of which you are guilty!

 

non sequitur. The ICJ have found credible cause to try Israel for genocide.