Up to 5.8 million U.S. kids have long COVID, study says

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

 

One mother discusses the "heartbreaking" search for answers

 

Up to 5.8 million young people have long COVID, according to a recent study — and parents like Amanda Goodhart are looking for answers. 

 

She says her 6-year old son Logan caught COVID multiple times. But even months later, his symptoms didn't get better.

 

"To see him struggle to stay awake, or crying and saying he doesn't feel good, it's heartbreaking, it's demoralizing, because there's not a lot of treatment options," she told CBS News. 

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Doctors say most children with long COVID recover over several months, but about a third experience symptoms even one year later. 

 

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/millions-kids-long-covid-study-symptoms-mother-searching-for-answers/

 

 

The cited study:

Postacute Sequelae of SARS-CoV-2 in Children

February 07 2024

 

"Data regarding the postacute sequelae of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 infection (PASC) in children, or long COVID, are only just emerging in the literature. These symptoms and conditions may reflect persistent symptoms from acute infection (eg, cough, headaches, fatigue, and loss of taste and smell), new symptoms like dizziness, or exacerbation of underlying conditions. Children may develop conditions de novo, including postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome, autoimmune conditions and multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children....

 

Given that ∼20% of COVID cases in the United States are in children,⁶ and that current pediatric postacute sequelae of SARS CoV-2 (PASC) prevalence estimates are 10% to 20%, PASC is estimated to affect up to 5.8 million children, representing a significant community impact. The scientific community has acknowledged an urgent need to understand more about PASC in children.⁷

 

 

https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/153/3/e2023062570/196606/Postacute-Sequelae-of-SARS-CoV-2-in-Children

 

 

[BritManToo]

Didn't we just have a news story stating long COVID was no more dangerous then the after effects of normal flu?

[impulse]

Here's an honest, though admittedly very pointed question about the studies.  Did they break out the victims to differentiate between long Covid and long Vax?

 

Because my symptoms started the day after my 2nd Pfizer and over a year before I got Covid.  So color me cynical if they don't break it down.

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Just now, BritManToo said:

Didn't we just have a news story stating long COVID was no more dangerous then the after effects of normal flu?

 

Among an Australian community where 90+% of the population had been double vaccinated for COVID, yes.

 

Unfortunately, the U.S. primary vaccination rate (two shots) for COVID among adults is far less, under 70%, and even lower among children, only about 44%.

 

Source:

 

and

 

https://www.aafp.org/news/health-of-the-public/pediatric-covid-vax-disparities.html

 

[BritManToo]

Just now, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Among an Australian community where 90+% of the population had been double vaccinated for COVID, yes.

 

Unfortunately, the U.S. primary vaccination rate (two shots) for COVID among adults is far less, under 70%, and even lower among children, only about 44%.

 

Source:

 

and

 

https://www.aafp.org/news/health-of-the-public/pediatric-covid-vax-disparities.html

 

I don't think the vaccinations made any difference, apart from corporate profits.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

4 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I don't think the vaccinations made any difference, apart from corporate profits.

 

More evidence vaccination reduces risk of long COVID

January 13, 2024

 

A large staggered cohort study from primary care patients in the UK, Spain, and Estonia finds that COVID-19 vaccination consistently reduced the risk of long-COVID symptoms. The study is published in The Lancet Respiratory Medicine.

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"We defined long COVID as having at least one record of any of the pre-defined symptoms between 90 and 365 days after the date of a PCR-positive test or clinical diagnosis of COVID-19, with no record of that symptom 180 days before SARS-CoV-2 infection."

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Across all four staggered cohorts in all three countries, vaccination was associated with a lowered risk of developing long COVID. And a slightly stronger preventative effect was seen for the first dose of BNT162b2 than for ChAdOx1, the authors said. Vaccine efficacy (VE) against long COVID ranged from 29% to 52%.

 

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/more-evidence-vaccination-reduces-risk-long-covid

 

[ChaiyaTH]

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Among an Australian community where 90+% of the population had been double vaccinated for COVID, yes.

 

Unfortunately, the U.S. primary vaccination rate (two shots) for COVID among adults is far less, under 70%, and even lower among children, only about 44%.

 

Source:

 

and

 

https://www.aafp.org/news/health-of-the-public/pediatric-covid-vax-disparities.html

 

Aren't those birds who stick their head in the sand also from Australia?

[248900_1469958220]

Its such good news that the vaccines reduced transmission for the millions and millions of people that still got Covid....Really did the trick!

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Millions and millions of people, especially in the U.S., never got COVID vaccines in the first place. And of those who did, many many thereafter didn't follow-up and stay up-to-date with recommended subsequent boosters. So it's no great surprise if those people still end up contracting COVID at some point.

 

For those who took the two original COVID vaccine doses and then later stayed up-to-date with subsequent vaccine updates, the odds are much reduced that they'll contract COVID at all... And if they do, very very much reduced chance that they'll become seriously ill from it.

 

Pretty much no vaccine protects 100%, and that's especially true for viruses like COVID or the flu that are spread primarily via the respiratory route. Regarding children as cited in the OP here, the vax rate for children is significantly lower than that for adults, meaning an even larger share of the children's population is unprotected by vaccines even now.

 

Vaccines only actually work to the extent they do if people actually take and use them as recommended.

 

PS - Having a prior COVID infection may also provide some immunity protection for a period after the original infection (along with the attendant health risks from the infection). But like protection from vaccines, infection-derived immunity also wanes over time, especially as new and different COVID variants emerge.

 

 

 

 

etc etc etc.

 

[Robert Paulson]

There’s also a New York Times article that concedes, after years of obviously being wrong in the first place, that school closures did nothing to stop the spread, and that poor kids were affected the worst and the longer schools were closed the worse their deficiencies became. You know, stuff many people were saying the entire time. 
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/18/upshot/pandemic-school-closures-data.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c-cb

[Robert Paulson]

I don’t know if people are getting it yet: this is the cdc and ny times finally admitting truths about covid. That’s like your opponent conceding the game. This isn’t some off organization here, it’s the staunchest covid lockdown and vaccine supporters. And they’re now admitting they were wrong all along, just like many people were saying the entire time. 

[Amethyst]

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[transam]

On 3/17/2024 at 9:57 AM, BritManToo said:

I don't think the vaccinations made any difference, apart from corporate profits.

Tell that to the bereaved non-vaxed families....

 

Is that why you never had your UK children vaxed with any disease preventing vax, because you thought someone was making money out of it....

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

28 minutes ago, transam said:

Tell that to the bereaved non-vaxed families....

 

 

For example:

 

Multisystem inflammatory syndrome (MIS-C) is a rare but serious COVID-19 complication in children. MIS-C causes different body parts to become inflamed, including the heart, lungs, kidneys, brain, skin, eyes, and gastrointestinal tract.

 

"Of 117 MIS-C cases reported [in the U.S.] in 2023, half involved intensive care unit (ICU) care. Of 112 kids with MIS-C who were eligible for immunization with COVID vaccine, 92 (82%) were unvaccinated. And, of 20 vaccinated children, 60% had waned immunity at the time of their MIS-C illness."

 

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/cdc-continues-receive-reports-mis-c-kids-following-covid-infections

 

AND

Study of 1 million US kids shows vaccines tied to lower risk of long COVID

A study of 1,037,936 US children seen in 17 healthcare systems across the country shows that COVID-19 vaccines are moderately protective against long COVID: 35% to 45%, with higher rates in adolescents. The study was published today in Pediatrics.

 

The researchers estimated vaccine effectiveness (VE) against long COVID in children aged 5 to 17 years. Though severe COVID-19 cases are less common in children than in adults, persistent symptoms in children do occur.

 

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/study-1-million-us-kids-shows-vaccines-tied-lower-risk-long-covid

 

 

[BKKBike09]

On 3/17/2024 at 9:33 AM, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Doctors say most children with long COVID recover over several months,

 

And that study the OP bangs on about also highlights:

 

Mental Health Conditions

Numerous mental health conditions have been identified in children as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic, including anxiety, stress, depression, panic, irritability, impulsivity, sleep problems, emotional lability, posttraumatic stress disorder, eating disorders, and suicidal behavior.67,–69However, mechanistic studies exploring the specific pathobiology and carefully conducted studies with adequate control subjects are required to explore effects from SARS-CoV-2 infection versus the situational context of the pandemic (such as social distancing, school closures, canceled extracurriculars ...

 

https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/153/3/e2023062570/196606/Postacute-Sequelae-of-SARS-CoV-2-in-Children?autologincheck=redirected

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

The impacts of the COVID pandemic on children have been wide and far-reaching, not the least of which includes the following:

 

Orphanhood and Caregiver Loss Among Children Based on New Global Excess COVID-19 Death Estimates

Using WHO excess mortality (more conservative than findings from IHME and The Economist), we estimate that 10 500 000 children lost parents or caregivers (Table), and 7 500 000 children experienced COVID-19–associated orphanhood through May 1, 2022.

 

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2795650

 

AND

 

 

https://www.healio.com/news/primary-care/20230130/covid19-a-leading-cause-of-death-among-american-youths

 

[KhunLA]

Up to ... 

 

Another number pulled from a mysterious orifice 

[rumak]

On 3/17/2024 at 9:49 AM, impulse said:

Here's an honest, though admittedly very pointed question about the studies.  Did they break out the victims to differentiate between long Covid and long Vax?

 

Because my symptoms started the day after my 2nd Pfizer and over a year before I got Covid.  So color me cynical if they don't break it down.

 

well,  i believe the creative thinkers giving us covid "information"  have,  after being "baffled"  by cases such as yours, come up with the newest unbelievable explanation .   Those who have had ongoing problems after being vaxed... but long before getting covid......... are suffering from PRE COVID symptoms !    

Yep.   pre covid .   that's it .