Joe Biden Is Now Beating Donald Trump With Republican Pollsters As Well

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, proton said:

 

Found or stolen is irrelevant, it's the contents that are important

You don't seem to understand the concept of "chain of custody".

 

Nor that someone who steals a diary for political purposes is likely to edit the contents for political purposes.

[Danderman123]

5 hours ago, proton said:

 

Which are usually bare faced lies, he's not done the one about showering with teenage daughter Ashley yet, which according to her diary was true and abuse. In fact he never mentions her at all, it's always the dead son and the drug user one which he's 'proud of'.

Most of the claims about Biden from the Trump side are projection - Trump claims that Biden does what Trump does, or would like to do.

 

Example: "sleepy Joe".

 

The Nazis used projection sparingly, but Trump does it often.

Edited April 20 by Danderman123

[transam]

2 hours ago, proton said:

 

Found or stolen is irrelevant, it's the contents that are important

Links that provide evidence please, I have asked three times now........🤔

If not, bail out........🤗

[charleskerins]

8 hours ago, JCauto said:

 

Yes, why discuss something that has actually happened and actually been said when the words of your idol are actually written down in front of you? Better to invent an imaginary claim that nobody has ever heard or heard said. Then let's go back to the 1900's and the Civil War because that's REALLY what this election is about. LOL. It is reminding me of a certain song from the Wizard of Oz (sung by the Straw Man, so doubly apropos). Actually, that's a good allegory for our current discussion. We have Dorothy, played by Kamala Harris, and the three MAGA representing the heartless, the brainless and the cowardly.

Damn JCauto bringing it!

[charleskerins]

23 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Most of the claims about Biden from the Trump side are projection - Trump claims that Biden does what Trump does, or would like to do.

 

Example: "sleepy Joe".

 

The Nazis used projection sparingly, but Trump does it often.

Accuse the other side of that which you are guilty           NAZI playbook

[proton]

27 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

You don't seem to understand the concept of "chain of custody".

 

Nor that someone who steals a diary for political purposes is likely to edit the contents for political purposes.

 

OK, you are a Biden supporter trying to defend the indefensible creep, we get it

[charleskerins]

28 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

You don't seem to understand the concept of "chain of custody".

 

Nor that someone who steals a diary for political purposes is likely to edit the contents for political purposes.

the diary was given to Judicial Watch a right wing  (i don't know what you would call these groups /websites that pop up and gain traction )    they refused to publish it because they couldn't verify it.

[transam]

1 minute ago, proton said:

 

OK, you are a Biden supporter trying to defend the indefensible creep, we get it

Links please, if you have none, then withdraw your "story"...🤔

 

[charleskerins]

8 hours ago, JCauto said:

 

Yeah? Show us the video of the Democratic assault on the Capitol with the violence, the B&E, the attempts to take over the Senate...

I think he was being sarcastic -no?

[charleskerins]

On 4/18/2024 at 4:23 PM, transam said:

You sound worried........🤭

Winner of the thread

[charleskerins]

On 4/18/2024 at 6:49 PM, proton said:

 

I never brought Gettysburg up

no donnie did 

[charleskerins]

On 4/18/2024 at 7:03 PM, atpeace said:

From that same poll from Echelon Insights poll being discussed.  At least they have a better sense of humor than 90% of you all.

 

"58% OF LIKELY VOTERS SAY DONALD TRUMP WOULD PERFORM BETTER IN A HOT DOG EATING CONTEST, WHILE 13% SAY THE SAME FOR BIDEN."

 

Their website link ( https://echeloninsights.com/in-the-news/apr2024-verified-voter-omnibus/. 

 

It's obvious that those polled think  Biden is a terrible President but the alternative is somehow worse. 

well then it's obvious they aren't very bright

[charleskerins]

On 4/18/2024 at 8:58 PM, Negativ said:

 

So Biden is leading but not really.

Nice

News outlets these days...

 

JFC  

[charleskerins]

22 hours ago, candide said:

And they will vote for the pro-Palestinian Trump!

Oh wait! 😀

Yes vote for the GOP they love GAZA

[piston broke]

i'm a Trump man  ....

[MangoKorat]

11 hours ago, charleskerins said:

A time of peace hmmm  tell that to the Ukranian sailors bombed by Putin or how about the israelis and Gazans killed in misslie attacks  or how about the Iranian General killed by us , then the Iranians retaliated, wait what about our soldiers killed in Niger "he knew what he signed up for "    as he mispronounced the widows name.  Syria "a time of peace " ??????? -we engaged in a full scale battle with Russian mercenaries   Kurds abandoned   get outta here with your propaganda   

Just to be clear, it wasn't me who raised the 'time of peace' thing.  I was replying to it.  I know you know that Mr Charles but others may not.

[proton]

2 hours ago, charleskerins said:

the diary was given to Judicial Watch a right wing  (i don't know what you would call these groups /websites that pop up and gain traction )    they refused to publish it because they couldn't verify it.

 

Ashley has never denied it's hers and in her hand writing, why would that be?

[candide]

51 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Ashley has never denied it's hers and in her hand writing, why would that be?

Would you have believed her if she had denied it?

[Danderman123]

9 hours ago, proton said:

 

OK, you are a Biden supporter trying to defend the indefensible creep, we get it

On the particular issue of the diary, your information is wrong, but you don't seem to understand that.

[Danderman123]

7 hours ago, proton said:

 

Ashley has never denied it's hers and in her hand writing, why would that be?

One problem is that you are citing content from an alternate version of the diary, which was published online:

 

https://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-posts-claim-contents-181600349.html

[Danderman123]

11 hours ago, proton said:

 

Ashley has never denied it's hers and in her hand writing, why would that be?

The problem is that what was published online was never verified.

[GroveHillWanderer]

20 hours ago, proton said:

Ashley has never denied it's hers and in her hand writing, why would that be?

As the Yahoo article that @Danderman123linked to says:

 

Quote

While there is strong evidence the diary exists, the authenticity of the content of these and other "leaked" pages published online has not been confirmed. Just because a diary exists does not mean that the images presented by National File are that diary.

Don't forget that even Project Veritas, the far right-wing outlet that originally received the diary, wouldn't publish it because it couldn't be confirmed.

Edited April 21 by GroveHillWanderer

[rattlesnake]

On 4/19/2024 at 4:31 PM, candide said:

What has  Trump's position about Ukraine to do with his position about Israel and Palestine?

 

Trump has always been pro-Netanyahu

 

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - The United States opens its new embassy in Jerusalem on May 14, a move that has delighted Israel and infuriated Palestinians.

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1I810Z/

 

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump unveiled his long-awaited Mideast peace plan Tuesday alongside a beaming Benjamin Netanyahu, presenting a vision that matched the Israeli leader’s hard-line, nationalist views while falling far short of Palestinian ambitions.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-ap-top-news-international-news-jerusalem-politics-f7d36b9023309ce4b1e423b02abf52c6

 

No, Trump and Netanyahu can't stand each other. Netanyahu congratulated Biden for his win in 2020, following which Trump said "F*** him".

 

The reason why Netanyahu dislikes Trump is because Trump laid a trap and Bibi fell in it.

Trump is a deal maker and will lean into the opposing party's weaknesses to get what he wants. In the case of Netanyahu, who is a zealous messianic fanatic, it wasn't too difficult: giving Jerusalem to Israel and cancelling the US' contribution to the UNRWA caused an ecstatic Bibi to accept Trump's deal. This was so absolutely outrageous that it instantly caused the Arab League to unite against Israel (annihilating years of effort to undermine and subvert it through Saudi Arabi, Qatar, Jordan and Oman) whilst ending the hypocritical international status quo on the colonization of Palestine by shining a spotlight on the issue.

When I look at the objective result of his Peace to Prosperity plan, to me it seems Trump is everything but a friend of Israel.

[still kicking]

On 4/18/2024 at 3:23 PM, Berkshire said:

Amazing how you guys would believe such nonsense. 

Donald told them

[G_Money]

On 4/18/2024 at 1:58 PM, Excogitator said:

An easy walk in the park, and a second term for Biden.

 

Trumps appeal is mainly with angry white male racists, hicks and incels, and there just aren't enough of them... 

Similar to Biden and his drag queen followers.

 

Simply not enough of them to win 

[Tug]

2 minutes ago, G_Money said:

Similar to Biden and his drag queen followers.

 

Simply not enough of them to win 

Ahhh ya forgot the lady folk the entire middle class labor seniors all the positive legislation lol don’t be so lazy lmao 🤣 trumps circling the bowl it’s nice to see the Republican Party starting to show a little bit of spine ….

[rattlesnake]

On 4/20/2024 at 2:59 AM, charleskerins said:

A time of peace hmmm  tell that to the Ukranian sailors bombed by Putin or how about the israelis and Gazans killed in misslie attacks  or how about the Iranian General killed by us , then the Iranians retaliated, wait what about our soldiers killed in Niger "he knew what he signed up for "    as he mispronounced the widows name.  Syria "a time of peace " ??????? -we engaged in a full scale battle with Russian mercenaries   Kurds abandoned   get outta here with your propaganda   

 

All existing, long-standing theatres of operations initiated and maintained by the warmongering establishment which Trump does not favour.

John Bolton, a prominent member of said establishment, said he would support Dick Cheney, mister “war on terror” himself, rather than Trump. Bolton also wants Israel to attack Iran and escalate tensions because what he wants is war, always more war. Of course he is against Trump, when Trump gets in he will dissolve NATO.

Bolton says he will write in Dick Cheney for president again this year
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4587685-bolton-dick-cheney-write-in-2024-president/

John Bolton calls on Israel to 'destroy' Iran's nuclear weapons, wants 'far stronger' attack on Iran
https://thepostmillennial.com/john-bolton-calls-on-israel-to-destroy-irans-nuclear-weapons-wants-far-stronger-attack-on-iran

Trump will pull US out of NATO if he wins election, ex-adviser warns
https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/12/politics/us-out-nato-second-trump-term-former-senior-adviser/index.html

[rattlesnake]

On 4/19/2024 at 11:12 PM, MangoKorat said:

You cannot be seriously attributing that to Trump? Putin does exactly as he wants and as we are seeing at the moment, to a lesser extent so does Netanyahu.  Trump would have had no effect on either conflict.

 

His claim that he could stop the war in Ukraine in 1 day should be taken in the same way as his claim that Covid wouldn't kill anymore than 100,000 Americans. The total to date is now 1,219,487. Shame the bleach didn't work.

 

The man doesn't even have half a brain, yet over 74 million people voted for him in 2020 -  speaks volumes about the American electorate!

 

The UK went through its own period of lunacy with Johnson - another who claimed there were witchhunts against him.  Nutter or not, at least he had the decency to resign.

 

No wars started between 2016 and 2020 and that is, of course, a coincidence. I would reassess my interpretative framework if I were you.

[MangoKorat]

1 hour ago, rattlesnake said:

 

No wars started between 2016 and 2020 and that is, of course, a coincidence. I would reassess my interpretative framework if I were you.

But you're not me and I don't support mysoginistic, devisive lunatics.

[Excogitator]

10 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

No wars started between 2016 and 2020 and that is, of course, a coincidence. I would reassess my interpretative framework if I were you.

What do you mean?

Biden hasn't started any wars during his presidency either.

You can't just attribute any eruption of war and conflict, anywhere in the world, to the sitting US president..

Because if you did, then Trump would be guilty of starting the following wars and conflicts:

2016 Niger Delta conflict
2016 Nagorno Karabakh war (Armenia-Azerbaijan)
2016 Kamwina Nsapu rebellion
2016 Conflict in Rakhine state, Myanmar
2016 Insurgency in Northern Chad
2017 Quatif unrest
2017 Marawi crisis
2017 Insurgency in Cabo Delgado
2017 Iraqi-Kurdish conflict
2018 Armenia-Azerbaijan clashes
2018 Israel-Gaza clashes
2018 Regional war involving Ethiopia and Eritrea
2019 India-Pakistan border skirmishes
2019 Israel-Gaza clashes

Edited April 22 by Excogitator