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2 hours ago, Middle Aged Grouch said:

Don't think a falang is superior to other foreigners. All non Thais are put in the same bucket fyi.

"Don't think a falang is superior to other foreigners".

I didn't say that they are.

 

"All non Thais are put in the same bucket fyi".

FYI, they are not.

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1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

"Don't think a falang is superior to other foreigners".

I didn't say that they are.

 

"All non Thais are put in the same bucket fyi".

FYI, they are not.

The very fact to respond "FYI they are not",  is an implicit yes they are to the comment above on thinking one is superior.

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10 hours ago, john donson said:

what if you set up a business, got 4 THAI employees, blabla, pay taxes...

 

dirty farang cannot earn, only thai ?

 

The OP was very clear about two points:

 

1 - It is *illegal* businesses that they are targeting. (so to answer your first question, yes that would be fine so long as you are very clear on the 'blabla')

 

2 - That it is *all* foreigners that are being targeted, no mention was made specifically about the people in question being farang, and no reference was made to hygiene habits. (So to answer your second question, farang are allowed to make money, even if they don't wash)

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13 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

"Don't think a falang is superior to other foreigners".

I didn't say that they are.

 

"All non Thais are put in the same bucket fyi".

FYI, they are not.

Yeah, only certain foreigners are greeted regularly at the airport with flowers and wais.

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Posted
33 minutes ago, zakalwe said:

Yeah, only certain foreigners are greeted regularly at the airport with flowers and wais.

 

Rich ones

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5 minutes ago, Carlotta said:

What would happen to Thailand's economy if all those pesty, dirty farangs would leave the country?? Given that there are only 250.000 farangs live here and spend 2000 ponds/month? Thats 1.8750.000.000 Bath per month. I reckon Anutin should think twice🙏

He didn’t join anything they’re merely taking his words out of context and read the whole article. Or better yet look at the legitimate news media with VPN. 

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7 minutes ago, Carlotta said:

What would happen to Thailand's economy if all those pesty, dirty farangs would leave the country?? Given that there are only 250.000 farangs live here and spend 2000 ponds/month? Thats 1.8750.000.000 Bath per month. I reckon Anutin should think twice🙏

This is all just bs based on statements made by the pm regarding what he said he wanted to do which he doesn’t even have the power to do. 

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It's all about the money, and hijacking the big cake. The plan is to establish a monopoly. They're kicking all the (8000?, I guess there are even more of these "medical" pot-holes) small guys out, like in other sectors too.

If Thai, or Foreigner is a secondary issue.

"Foreigners", is just distracting from the true aim, as it works momentary well.

Thai companies are unable to stand any competition. The most, only can achieve prosperity, in monopoly fashioned markets. Otherwise they are overwhelmed, and blatantly failing. No need to name examples. 

Anyways, the "recreational"

Pot-Paradise will disappear. They jusr gonna keep it up for the next high season, as a magnet, to milk tourists (safety first). The choosen date (April 2025) is quite telling.

 

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1 hour ago, Carlotta said:

What would happen to Thailand's economy if all those pesty, dirty farangs would leave the country?? Given that there are only 250.000 farangs live here and spend 2000 ponds/month? Thats 1.8750.000.000 Bath per month. I reckon Anutin should think twice🙏

If 250,000 farangs living in Thailand spent $3,000 per month that would be $9 billion USD per year. Thailand's annual GDP is 500 billion USD per year. All those farang "supporting" the Thai economy makes up 1.8% of it.

 

In 2019, Chinese tourists spent 250 billion USD overseas, beating out American tourists. I'm not surprised Thailand is more focused on getting Chinese tourists and less on keeping farang immigrants.

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On 5/11/2024 at 1:25 AM, hotchilli said:

Something he omitted to doing when he legalised it.

Agreed. If there had been strict regulations and police checkups etc for opening cannabis shops , and limiting the openings to a reasonable amount, then maybe there’d be no problem. As it is , the sleazy look of most of these “ shops” , and the fact that the owners have no scruples ( selling to youths and kids!!!) merits closing them or bringing in stricter laws..  Cannabis which remains mostly illegal the world over , should have been handled differently.  Instead, it’s turned into a free for all.

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4 hours ago, zakalwe said:

If 250,000 farangs living in Thailand spent $3,000 per month that would be $9 billion USD per year. Thailand's annual GDP is 500 billion USD per year. All those farang "supporting" the Thai economy makes up 1.8% of it.

 

In 2019, Chinese tourists spent 250 billion USD overseas, beating out American tourists. I'm not surprised Thailand is more focused on getting Chinese tourists and less on keeping farang immigrants.

Chinese who spend the 250 billion USD overseas do not spend it in Thailand. They go elsewhere and buy luxury goods and stay in 5 star hotels .In Thailand they’re on bus tours and buying latex pillows. 

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52 minutes ago, geisha said:

Chinese who spend the 250 billion USD overseas do not spend it in Thailand. They go elsewhere and buy luxury goods and stay in 5 star hotels .In Thailand they’re on bus tours and buying latex pillows. 

So the Chinese still spent 18 billion USD in Thailand vs 15 billion USD from ALL European tourists in 2019. Thailand does seems to be trying hard to get the rest of the 232 billion from the Chinese though.

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1140714/thailand-value-of-tourist-spending-by-region-of-origin/

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21 hours ago, Maitdjai said:

It's all about the money, and hijacking the big cake. The plan is to establish a monopoly. They're kicking all the (8000?, I guess there are even more of these "medical" pot-holes) small guys out, like in other sectors too.

If Thai, or Foreigner is a secondary issue.

"Foreigners", is just distracting from the true aim, as it works momentary well.

Thai companies are unable to stand any competition. The most, only can achieve prosperity, in monopoly fashioned markets. Otherwise they are overwhelmed, and blatantly failing. No need to name examples. 

Anyways, the "recreational"

Pot-Paradise will disappear. They jusr gonna keep it up for the next high season, as a magnet, to milk tourists (safety first). The choosen date (April 2025) is quite telling.

 

What Thai companies can compete internationally? Other than with rice , dried mango and durian 

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On 5/12/2024 at 7:40 AM, Artisi said:

As an Aussie, you should know better than using ass for arse. 

true< I do know better, but got stuck in tik tok mode, where arse gets me a warning... tik tok is such an arse... lol..

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On 5/12/2024 at 12:16 PM, zakalwe said:

If 250,000 farangs living in Thailand spent $3,000 per month that would be $9 billion USD per year. Thailand's annual GDP is 500 billion USD per year. All those farang "supporting" the Thai economy makes up 1.8% of it.

 

In 2019, Chinese tourists spent 250 billion USD overseas, beating out American tourists. I'm not surprised Thailand is more focused on getting Chinese tourists and less on keeping farang immigrants.

Nice numbers! Farangs "living" in Thailand, and the spending of Chinese "overseas".

Two different scales.

You've "assimilated" to Thai calculating?

If they're legalising casinos, some Chinese might come even twice to Thailand, instead to Sihanoukville, or "overseas".

The potheads getting milked one more high season. Maybe even longer, but only

If the revenue gets lined into the correct coffers. Pathetic, or desperate, while facing the looming recession? I'm not sure.

 

 

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12 hours ago, pixelaoffy said:

What Thai companies can compete internationally? Other than with rice , dried mango and durian 

 

PTT. Caused Australia's worst ever maritime disaster and took over all the gas field assets in Burma when Western companies exited due to human rights concerns, but they are relatively successful internationally.

 

Red Bull, 50/50 Austrian and Thai though.

 

Carabao, starting to see their energy drinks in UK and other countries.

 

CP Group, one of the World's largest chicken exporters.

 

Etc.

 

 

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6 hours ago, Maitdjai said:

Nice numbers! Farangs "living" in Thailand, and the spending of Chinese "overseas".

Two different scales.

You've "assimilated" to Thai calculating?

If they're legalising casinos, some Chinese might come even twice to Thailand, instead to Sihanoukville, or "overseas".

The potheads getting milked one more high season. Maybe even longer, but only

If the revenue gets lined into the correct coffers. Pathetic, or desperate, while facing the looming recession? I'm not sure.

 

 

I'm comparing the two here because it seems that a lot of AN posters that live in Thailand believe that if they leave, Thailand will be in a lot of trouble economically. They are delusional. They also believe that Thais focus too much on attracting Chinese tourists. I also linked a report on Thailand tourist income by country of origin. I'm just using actual US Dollars to show that Chinese tourists > European tourists > farang immigrants.

 

Oh, if Thailand made casinos legal, Chinese will spend even more money in Thailand.

 

 

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On 5/13/2024 at 3:22 AM, pixelaoffy said:

What Thai companies can compete internationally? Other than with rice , dried mango and durian 

 

12 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

 

PTT. Caused Australia's worst ever maritime disaster and took over all the gas field assets in Burma when Western companies exited due to human rights concerns, but they are relatively successful internationally.

 

Red Bull, 50/50 Austrian and Thai though.

 

Carabao, starting to see their energy drinks in UK and other countries.

 

CP Group, one of the World's largest chicken exporters.

 

Etc.

 

 

Again. Monopoly shaped market situations are “preferred”, because it makes the CEOs life much easier. Everywhere.
There is only a difference in “support”, and shortcuts to achieve it.  
PTT:
If the westerners caring too much about their values, and PTT steps in, without giving any care, doesn't say anything about competitiveness.
Red Bull:
I doubt that the 50% Thai holding is contributing too much to the international marketing, and success of the brand.
But maybe, “Boss” is conducting the enterprise from the background, wherever he is hiding. (Lol).

Carabao:

Let's wait first for the international success, beside the song “Made in Thailand”, and the “Carabao Cup”.
CP Group:
Who and where, are the other chicken exporters from/in Thailand? Bought out, I guess.
Etc?
BKK Airways:
Would be bankrupt within one year, without the Samui monopoly!
Thai Airways:
Was already bankrupt, not due to COVID, but due to the incapability of the management. And it's still disastrous, as the ridiculous, but arrogant handling of the recent “5000 Baht hush money/B-Class seat issue” shows.
Not to mention the still open refunds of cancelled tickets during COVID time.
More?
Licensed assembling (“Made in Thailand”), Agricultural exports, mainly to the ASEAN region, and China.
Beside all exports, even those exports are declining.
Technical invention? Zero-Nada. 
Building: Concrete mania, like there is no tomorrow.
Tourism: A self running “golden goose” got, and gets hampered by smart statements, and flip-flop decisions.
Hubs: ???

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On 5/12/2024 at 7:16 AM, zakalwe said:

If 250,000 farangs living in Thailand spent $3,000 per month that would be $9 billion USD per year. Thailand's annual GDP is 500 billion USD per year. All those farang "supporting" the Thai economy makes up 1.8% of it.

 

In 2019, Chinese tourists spent 250 billion USD overseas, beating out American tourists. I'm not surprised Thailand is more focused on getting Chinese tourists and less on keeping farang immigrants.

 

On 5/12/2024 at 12:40 PM, zakalwe said:

So the Chinese still spent 18 billion USD in Thailand vs 15 billion USD from ALL European tourists in 2019. Thailand does seems to be trying hard to get the rest of the 232 billion from the Chinese though.

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1140714/thailand-value-of-tourist-spending-by-region-of-origin/

 

7 hours ago, zakalwe said:

I'm comparing the two here because it seems that a lot of AN posters that live in Thailand believe that if they leave, Thailand will be in a lot of trouble economically. They are delusional. They also believe that Thais focus too much on attracting Chinese tourists. I also linked a report on Thailand tourist income by country of origin. I'm just using actual US Dollars to show that Chinese tourists > European tourists > farang immigrants.

 

Oh, if Thailand made casinos legal, Chinese will spend even more money in Thailand.

 

 

The link to your source is quite useless, because, at least, I'm not spending 199.- Euro/Month. To get stuffed with TAT (crystal ball, three-zero digit calculator key) numbers from 2019, which I can get everywhere. 
You're partially right about the relative weight of the spending by residents.
But Thailand is in economical trouble anyway. With, or without, the mentioned “if” numbers (“$9 billion USD per year”). If they're getting desperate for every single tourist, and tax $, these 9 Billion USD should be an amount to consider (“A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush”). 
Instead of questioning the independence of the BOT, with the aim to throw out (printing money) cheaper loans,
and dispatching “digital” 10000 Baht wallets (to fulfill the election “deal”).
Just deepening the depth crisis of the private household sector. Another copy of the false recipes of many western economies.
Btw, with all this (also small scale) building, and cementing of every square meter at every corner,
obviously, there seems not to be too much lack of “cash”.

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On 5/10/2024 at 8:17 PM, webfact said:

In a bold move, Deputy Prime Minister Anutin Charnvirakul orders the arrest of foreigners operating cannabis outlets illegally in Thailand.

 

He's a very sick man.

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