Latest developments and discussion of recent events in the Ukraine War

[problemfarang]

2 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

I'm sure there are materials and equipment from all over the world. North Korean, Chinese, Iranian, European, maybe even British and American. It's a lucrative business after all.

 

You said you are willing to answer questions. Are you being paid to fight for Ukraine? If not, are some of the others from countries you've mentioned like Columbia, Georgia etc?

 

There are 2 groups: paid and not paid.

 

For your other comments:

Tbh i really dont care NK or African soldiers are fighting for russia. And yes they are there. 

What i care and makes me happy that im fighting on the good side. We dont kill people for fun. We dont give them pain for fun. We dont hit civs for fun. Ukraine is a country which fighting for its own freedom and thats the bottom line. 

They didnt attack any other country.. its their own free choice to choose joining EU or NATO. Such as yourself.. it is your free choice to come to thailand and live. It is your free choice to do what you want.. simple as it is. 

I know many people cannot understand this or accept this. 

And yes arms busines is one of the biggest in the world. So there is no way to stop it. Sadly. 

I respect what you believe and how you think. But people need to relize at some pont that russia is not a normal country. This is like.. to defence dark side or light side.. one is a totally monster murderer and the other one is not. Simple as that

 

PS: when i come back home i can say i saved people and help today.. but russians cannot.. thats enough 🙂

 

Edited October 20 by problemfarang

[Gweiloman]

8 hours ago, problemfarang said:

 

There are 2 groups: paid and not paid.

 

For your other comments:

Tbh i really dont care NK or African soldiers are fighting for russia. And yes they are there. 

What i care and makes me happy that im fighting on the good side. We dont kill people for fun. We dont give them pain for fun. We dont hit civs for fun. Ukraine is a country which fighting for its own freedom and thats the bottom line. 

They didnt attack any other country.. its their own free choice to choose joining EU or NATO. Such as yourself.. it is your free choice to come to thailand and live. It is your free choice to do what you want.. simple as it is. 

I know many people cannot understand this or accept this. 

And yes arms busines is one of the biggest in the world. So there is no way to stop it. Sadly. 

I respect what you believe and how you think. But people need to relize at some pont that russia is not a normal country. This is like.. to defence dark side or light side.. one is a totally monster murderer and the other one is not. Simple as that

 

PS: when i come back home i can say i saved people and help today.. but russians cannot.. thats enough 🙂

 

Thanks for responding.

 

In my view, you have a rather simplistic view of the world. Ukraine didn’t attack another country, that’s true (although some will argue that their attacks on ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine constitutes an act of war but we are not discussing that here). Have you heard of the Munro Doctrine? Did Cuba attack USA?

 

Free choices aren’t really free. Actions have consequences and NATO trying to get Ukraine into it have merely resulted in the demise of Ukraine.

 

In your mind, Russia is a monster murderer. In the minds of many others, the west and especially that country across the pond is a monster murderer. They are entitled to their opinion, same as you are entitled to yours. Just because you believe it doesn’t mean it’s true.

[Patong2021]

12 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

Nah. I'm not triggered. Doesn't bother me either way. Not my war. What bothers me is hypocrisy and double standards and disinformation.

 

The agreement between Russia and NK is not unlike Article 5. Russia was invaded by a 3rd country so it's not unexpected if NK sends support to Russia.

 

You have gone from denying the involvement of North Korean conscripted slave soldiers, to now saying it is acceptable  and fabricating justification for the use of foreign military units deployed by Russia to attack Ukraine. It's bad enough that North Korean slave labour is sold to Russia to work in its deadly mines and toxic factories, but now Russia is using enslaved North Koreans to kill Ukrainians.

 

The argument to block Ukraine from using western long range missiles is now voided.

[Patong2021]

1 hour ago, Gweiloman said:

Thanks for responding.

 

In my view, you have a rather simplistic view of the world. Ukraine didn’t attack another country, that’s true (although some will argue that their attacks on ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine constitutes an act of war but we are not discussing that here). Have you heard of the Munro Doctrine? Did Cuba attack USA?

 

Free choices aren’t really free. Actions have consequences and NATO trying to get Ukraine into it have merely resulted in the demise of Ukraine.

 

In your mind, Russia is a monster murderer. In the minds of many others, the west and especially that country across the pond is a monster murderer. They are entitled to their opinion, same as you are entitled to yours. Just because you believe it doesn’t mean it’s true.

 

You obviously do not understand the Monroe Doctrine. Your misinterpretation ignores what is occurring in 2024. .In the early 1800's when President Monroe made his case, the USA had a small military with practically no navy and no foreign military capability. The Monroe Doctrine at the time was a statement against the continuing European colonial presence and meddling in the domestic affairs of the Americas, and described such activities as potentially harmful to the USA.  On the contrary, the  Monroe Doctrine is now interpreted an argument on behalf of a regional consensus to act multilaterally and without the intervention of foreign powers in the affairs of the Americas. This  why the OAS was founded in the late 1930's to allow for the  many nations of the Americas to work together and to minimize the potential for further interference by foreign powers such as Spain, France, Netherlands, and Great Britain. 

[problemfarang]

3 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

Thanks for responding.

 

In my view, you have a rather simplistic view of the world. Ukraine didn’t attack another country, that’s true (although some will argue that their attacks on ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine constitutes an act of war but we are not discussing that here). Have you heard of the Munro Doctrine? Did Cuba attack USA?

 

Free choices aren’t really free. Actions have consequences and NATO trying to get Ukraine into it have merely resulted in the demise of Ukraine.

 

In your mind, Russia is a monster murderer. In the minds of many others, the west and especially that country across the pond is a monster murderer. They are entitled to their opinion, same as you are entitled to yours. Just because you believe it doesn’t mean it’s true.

 

Well.. first of all you are a person who will not accept anything but whatever you think is the truth.. and which is sad

Second you are full of wrong information.

Third when you see and understand that you are corrected or likewise you choose to change the topic with words or sentences.

Im sorry im not doing that. I live in the reality. 

You couldnt say anything about my post or reply to you. 

You are talking like you are a man who doesnt respect other people's freedom. Or you dont respect what other people want. 

I have nothing to say to you anymore sir. I have seen a lot. And what makes me happy is that im here to stand strong against people like you. 

Ohh and trust me i could write a lot of thing which would put you in shame.. but sir, i wont. Because all people here including you yes including you knows that you are wrong. 

From now on.. i will not reply to your posts. I think i already replied you.

This is my only wish to you: i realky wish that another country invade your country just because they can. And not kill your people.. rape your mother and daughter.. kill your surrended soldiers on the side.. destroy your houses.. use chemical weapons on you.. i hope no one stop you because you want to live in thailand.. i hope no one stops you for your free choices.. if anything hapoens like that.. remember your words 'choices are not really free' .. necause they have to sir... thats why i said not everyone can understand in my post..

Like i said.. i already answered your questions and i think i really ansewered them but you just trying not to accept it and changing it.. so i will not respond you anymore because after all my responds and your responds i honostly think that you are a troll sir.. 

Enjoy your free life in thailand

 

 

Edited October 20 by problemfarang

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[Gweiloman]

8 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

You have gone from denying the involvement of North Korean conscripted slave soldiers, to now saying it is acceptable  and fabricating justification for the use of foreign military units deployed by Russia to attack Ukraine. It's bad enough that North Korean slave labour is sold to Russia to work in its deadly mines and toxic factories, but now Russia is using enslaved North Koreans to kill Ukrainians.

 

The argument to block Ukraine from using western long range missiles is now voided.

I said there is no proof that NK has sent troops to fight with the Russians in Ukraine. I also provided an approved, credible, pro-Ukrainian link to where the Pentagon and NATO said as much. Terms like conscripted slave soldiers and slave labour are just nonsense western propaganda so not worth responding to.

 

Russia and NK has signed an agreement to come to each other’s aid if either country is under attack. Ukrainian forces, comprising of mercenaries as well, entered into Russia in the Kursk region. Did Russia ask for NK’s aid to repel the invaders? Possibly. Did NK offer to send soldiers to help Russia drive out the invaders? Possibly. Or maybe NK is taking advantage of a hot conflict in Kursk to send its officers to the frontlines to observe and learn how modern warfare is being conducted in case SK decides one day to invade NK.

 

At this moment, it’s all speculation, driven by some SK intelligence assessment that has apparently, according to a certain British Professor who is an expert in these matters, been “spectacularly wrong” in the past, and “supported “ by a video of some soldiers somewhere getting ready to go somewhere. Hardly evidence but I guess some are so desperate that they are willing to clutch at straws.

[Gweiloman]

8 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

You obviously do not understand the Monroe Doctrine. Your misinterpretation ignores what is occurring in 2024. .In the early 1800's when President Monroe made his case, the USA had a small military with practically no navy and no foreign military capability. The Monroe Doctrine at the time was a statement against the continuing European colonial presence and meddling in the domestic affairs of the Americas, and described such activities as potentially harmful to the USA.  On the contrary, the  Monroe Doctrine is now interpreted an argument on behalf of a regional consensus to act multilaterally and without the intervention of foreign powers in the affairs of the Americas. This  why the OAS was founded in the late 1930's to allow for the  many nations of the Americas to work together and to minimize the potential for further interference by foreign powers such as Spain, France, Netherlands, and Great Britain. 

The original rationale behind the Monroe Doctrine is irrelevant. Fact is that America uses this as an argument to prevent other great forces from having influence in the western hemisphere yet it happily does just that all over the world. Hypocrisy at its finest. One of the reasons why more and more of the global majority is turning away from it.

[Bkk Brian]

19 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

I said there is no proof that NK has sent troops to fight with the Russians in Ukraine. I also provided an approved, credible, pro-Ukrainian link to where the Pentagon and NATO said as much. Terms like conscripted slave soldiers and slave labour are just nonsense western propaganda so not worth responding to.

 

Russia and NK has signed an agreement to come to each other’s aid if either country is under attack. Ukrainian forces, comprising of mercenaries as well, entered into Russia in the Kursk region. Did Russia ask for NK’s aid to repel the invaders? Possibly. Did NK offer to send soldiers to help Russia drive out the invaders? Possibly. Or maybe NK is taking advantage of a hot conflict in Kursk to send its officers to the frontlines to observe and learn how modern warfare is being conducted in case SK decides one day to invade NK.

 

At this moment, it’s all speculation, driven by some SK intelligence assessment that has apparently, according to a certain British Professor who is an expert in these matters, been “spectacularly wrong” in the past, and “supported “ by a video of some soldiers somewhere getting ready to go somewhere. Hardly evidence but I guess some are so desperate that they are willing to clutch at straws.

“supported “ by a video of some soldiers somewhere getting ready to go somewhere. 

 

What part of the video being GEO located do you not understand?

 

Why do you keep ignoring that fact that the so called expert was referring to "Special Forces" NK soldiers not the rag tail meat grinder fillers that were in the video?

 

 

[Gweiloman]

6 hours ago, problemfarang said:

 

Well.. first of all you are a person who will not accept anything but whatever you think is the truth.. and which is sad

Second you are full of wrong information.

Third when you see and understand that you are corrected or likewise you choose to change the topic with words or sentences.

Im sorry im not doing that. I live in the reality. 

You couldnt say anything about my post or reply to you. 

You are talking like you are a man who doesnt respect other people's freedom. Or you dont respect what other people want. 

I have nothing to say to you anymore sir. I have seen a lot. And what makes me happy is that im here to stand strong against people like you. 

Ohh and trust me i could write a lot of thing which would put you in shame.. but sir, i wont. Because all people here including you yes including you knows that you are wrong. 

From now on.. i will not reply to your posts. I think i already replied you.

This is my only wish to you: i realky wish that another country invade your country just because they can. And not kill your people.. rape your mother and daughter.. kill your surrended soldiers on the side.. destroy your houses.. use chemical weapons on you.. i hope no one stop you because you want to live in thailand.. i hope no one stops you for your free choices.. if anything hapoens like that.. remember your words 'choices are not really free' .. necause they have to sir... thats why i said not everyone can understand in my post..

Like i said.. i already answered your questions and i think i really ansewered them but you just trying not to accept it and changing it.. so i will not respond you anymore because after all my responds and your responds i honostly think that you are a troll sir.. 

Enjoy your free life in thailand

 

 

Reality is that there is almost always 2 sides to an argument, both of which may be true, depending on your perspective, bias and prejudices.

 

My whole life, I have grown up thinking the west is a beacon of truth and honour and there are many truthful and honourable people, no doubt. But I have also seen with my own eyes the hypocrisy, deception, hubris, propaganda, pure lies and interference of many western nations. I have listened to experts on both sides of the debate and I have arrived at my own conclusions, much like you have. Just because our conclusions differ doesn’t make us one more right than the other.

[Gweiloman]

11 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

“supported “ by a video of some soldiers somewhere getting ready to go somewhere. 

 

What part of the video being GEO located do you not understand?

 

 

Somewhere in Russia is somewhere isn’t it? It’s a big country, in case you didn’t know. And you know for a fact where they are going? No, of course you don’t. You just believe the propaganda you read.

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, Gweiloman said:

Somewhere in Russia is somewhere isn’t it? It’s a big country, in case you didn’t know. And you know for a fact where they are going? No, of course you don’t. You just believe the propaganda you read.

Denial.

 

A Russian from the video:

 

"There are more…there are millions of them here. Here are the new reinforcements. This is just the beginning. There are more."

[Gweiloman]

6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Denial.

 

A Russian from the video:

 

"There are more…there are millions of them here. Here are the new reinforcements. This is just the beginning. There are more."

Wow! If there are millions of them and more to come, then the Ukrainian goose is well and truly cooked. Might as well surrender now instead of sending more of its citizens to the grave. 

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Gweiloman said:

Wow! If there are millions of them and more to come, then the Ukrainian goose is well and truly cooked. Might as well surrender now instead of sending more of its citizens to the grave. 

Tell that to the Russian not me.

 

Oh and NATO only denied that there is no evidence of them actually fighting in Ukraine at the moment, not of them training in Russia 

[problemfarang]

A POW fighting for Russia.. or was fighting 🙂

now he can save his life at POW camp.

 

he is from Kazakhistan

And he is not a boy or child.

[transam]

2 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

Reality is that there is almost always 2 sides to an argument, both of which may be true, depending on your perspective, bias and prejudices.

 

My whole life, I have grown up thinking the west is a beacon of truth and honour and there are many truthful and honourable people, no doubt. But I have also seen with my own eyes the hypocrisy, deception, hubris, propaganda, pure lies and interference of many western nations. I have listened to experts on both sides of the debate and I have arrived at my own conclusions, much like you have. Just because our conclusions differ doesn’t make us one more right than the other.

Yeh, but, you look at stuff as a Commy now, a Putin supporter........🤕

[problemfarang]

A view from a russian trench..

liberated from orcs.

[problemfarang]

Liberating another village...

Hehe

[zmisha]

On 10/19/2024 at 5:22 PM, Jingthing said:

I'm not really a George Will kind of guy, but I think he's correct that World War 3 has already started and that the west isn't facing up to that reality (but the axis of autocracy is).

He points out something interesting.

As World War 3 is the most important thing happening on the planet now, why is foreign policy such a back burner issue in the US presidential campaign for both candidates (which he contrasts to the 1940 US election).

I guess the reason is probably the American people don't want to hear about it.

It's kind of like the cliche about politics taken to war -- you may not be interested in war but war is interested in you.

He makes a good point, but I have some hope at least that Harris not being a Putin loving isolationist is the much better choice to step up to the plate when facing the issue becomes a necessity.

 

Note the opinion piece by George Will was recently published in the Washington Post but behind a paywall so I won't link to it but I have given my source that I'm reacting to. 

It is titled:

World War III is already under way. Not that Harris or Trump has noticed.

A new axis is sowing global disorder. The U.S. presidential campaign is what reckless disregard looks like.

World War III is good for America as long as it is not threatened and can ultimately remain on the sidelines and become the winner as the only undestroyed country. World War III is a war between NATO and Russia - so America will need to leave NATO at some point to remain on the sidelines. Otherwise, America will not be able to win such a war. Trump voiced the pretext for leaving - Europeans must pay for their security.

[Jingthing]

10 minutes ago, zmisha said:

World War III is good for America as long as it is not threatened and can ultimately remain on the sidelines and become the winner as the only undestroyed country. World War III is a war between NATO and Russia - so America will need to leave NATO at some point to remain on the sidelines. Otherwise, America will not be able to win such a war. Trump voiced the pretext for leaving - Europeans must pay for their security.

Way off.

The enemy axis is global.

Iran, NK, Russia, China, parts of Latin America and Africa, etc. 

[zmisha]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Way off.

The enemy axis is global.

Iran, NK, Russia, China, parts of Latin America and Africa, etc. 

Let's say that tomorrow America will say that a new world order has arrived and the decisions of the New York court are binding on the entire world. Who will say no? There is only one country in the world that has the same nuclear potential as the United States - Russia. Russia is the only obstacle to the establishment of a new world order. After the destruction of Russia - Iran, China and North Korea will simply surrender. Because otherwise they will simply be wiped off the face of the earth.

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Nonsense troll post removed

[Mavideol]

15 hours ago, problemfarang said:

 

Well.. first of all you are a person who will not accept anything but whatever you think is the truth.. and which is sad

Second you are full of wrong information.

Third when you see and understand that you are corrected or likewise you choose to change the topic with words or sentences.

Im sorry im not doing that. I live in the reality. 

You couldnt say anything about my post or reply to you. 

You are talking like you are a man who doesnt respect other people's freedom. Or you dont respect what other people want. 

I have nothing to say to you anymore sir. I have seen a lot. And what makes me happy is that im here to stand strong against people like you. 

Ohh and trust me i could write a lot of thing which would put you in shame.. but sir, i wont. Because all people here including you yes including you knows that you are wrong. 

From now on.. i will not reply to your posts. I think i already replied you.

This is my only wish to you: i realky wish that another country invade your country just because they can. And not kill your people.. rape your mother and daughter.. kill your surrended soldiers on the side.. destroy your houses.. use chemical weapons on you.. i hope no one stop you because you want to live in thailand.. i hope no one stops you for your free choices.. if anything hapoens like that.. remember your words 'choices are not really free' .. necause they have to sir... thats why i said not everyone can understand in my post..

Like i said.. i already answered your questions and i think i really ansewered them but you just trying not to accept it and changing it.. so i will not respond you anymore because after all my responds and your responds i honostly think that you are a troll sir.. 

Enjoy your free life in thailand

 

 

well done mate

[Mavideol]

Putin continues his internal purge

 

Putin continues his internal purge

[Mavideol]

Russian sabotage, Putin sows chaos in Europe

 

Russian sabotage, Putin sows chaos in Europe

[Mavideol]

Putin suddenly backtracks

 

Putin suddenly backtracks

Edited October 21 by Mavideol

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, Mavideol said:

Russian sabotage, Putin sows chaos in Europe

 

Russian sabotage, Putin sows chaos in Europe

Again, WW3 has already started, and most people don't realize it yet.

Acting like it isn't happening won't make it go away.

[Mavideol]

Baffled, Putin must deal with rebellious media

 

Baffled, Putin must deal with rebellious media