Trump found guilty of 34 counts of falsifying business records

[BusyB]

8 hours ago, Walker88 said:

Let's use some of the convicted felon's own words about migrants to describe what the Republicans---so far---plan to send to the voters in November:

 

"They're sending us their felons!"

 

Not sure if the guy can still win, as swing voters might be affected. Also, the Convicted Felon is likely to rant about how he will take down 'the corrupt and rigged US system', and that will hurt him with the same swing voters.

 

Perhaps---just perhaps---Republicans will do the right and smart thing and choose someone else as their candidate. Might be their only chance.

 

The convicted felon has never yet won.

 

He was SE-lected in 2016 by the screwed up 'electoral college' rubbish, not E-lected.

 

He won't win this time either - decent people are generally in the majority. But the actually rigged part of the system may yet again see the loser of the vote installed in the WH.

 

Interesting days.

[BobBKK]

7 minutes ago, candide said:

As a courtesy, a summary of talking points for MAGA posters. Choose one or more of the following: 😀

- Witch hunt

- Dem judge

- Dem jury,

- Weaponized DOJ,

- Hunter Biden,

- Banana Republic,

- Nothing Burger

- Everybody's doing the same as Trump

- It's's to ban Trump from the election,

- More people will vote for Trump,

- Testimony from a hooker,

- Global oil prices were cheaper under Trump

- ...

 

Surprinsingly enough, these Instructions have not yet been received:

- but, but crooked Joe Biden

- Trump is innocent

 

 

 

 
Talking points for Dems

Cohen had an epiphany and is a good guy
Stormy has become a nun
Bragg never said "I'll get Trump" it was AI
Clinton never deleted her emails - a staffer did it
Fani loves Trump, but she has to do her job
Biden never had any boxes in his garage
Biden is only pretending to have dementia
Hunter was only pretending to take drugs
Cohen never stole the money - Trump told him to do it
We don't want those immigrants' votes - we want them to wash our cars
Merchans' daughter is a closet GOP surrogate and only pretends to hate Trump 

 

[KhunLA]

7 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

I hate to admit it but you have a valid point. Hillary SHOULD have been nailed for that email server thingy, but she is deeply embedded in the system. That system protected her.

 

The twice impeached and now convicted felon behaved like a bull in a China (CHInah!) shop and the real powers that be have had it with him. He'll find how quickly his support in D.C dissipates and he'll be nothing but a husk of bad makeup and a man with no family.

Yea ... I think he's done as a political opponent.   Which in itself is scary for the USA.   If biden gets the nod from Dems, it's even scarier thinking harris will finish out his term.

 

 

 

[BobBKK]

8 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

No. If ANY individual had perpetrated these crimes in order to rig an election, this same verdict would be handed down. It won't be reversed, the evidence was obviously too overwhelming.

You think a bookkeeping error constitutes rigging an election? Wow, just wow. It will be reversed and is, in itself, trying to rig the next election. Watch this space. 

[BusyB]

8 hours ago, ezzra said:

What do you expect when a Republican get 12 jurors and a judge who are all staunch of the anti Republican 

in a New York Democrat's courtroom? his goose was cooked from day one...

 

The defense accepted the jury as seated without further demur. And the jury vote was unanimous.

 

Stop trying to enable a fraudulent felon, grifter, sexual assaulter and out and out disgusting liar who would sell the US to Putin, Xi and Little Missile Man if the Price is Right. If you are successful don't think it won't affect you badly sooner or later. Discrimination and hatred and impunity know no bounds or exceptions once installed in power. And everyone suffers. Everyone. Even those who think they're safe.

 

 

 

 

[frank83628]

12 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

No. If ANY individual had perpetrated these crimes in order to rig an election, this same verdict would be handed down. It won't be reversed, the evidence was obviously too overwhelming.

rig an election?..... i think your excitement on this result has got the better of you

[BobBKK]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

There is no such thing as TDS.

 

 

 Only those who suffer would say  🤪

[Moncul]

2 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Man oh man - where to start - the TDS is strong in you so I will be brief.

 

1.   He tried - your lot stopped him.

2.  Yes.

3.  No - his wealth decreased (look it up).

 

It's difficult to argue with someone so ill informed he didn't know that Trump had both House and Senate majorities for the first two years of his term.

 

[Chivas]

People totally overlooking the fact that this clown influenced the American public to vote for him in 2016 without remotely knowing what he was covering up

 

12 Jurors voted lock stock and barrel to convict. No dissent.

 

Seriously lock him up for 1 year which is just one quarter of the maximum sentence he can be served with

[Presto]

7 minutes ago, BusyB said:

 

The convicted felon has never yet won.

 

He was SE-lected in 2016 by the screwed up 'electoral college' rubbish, not E-lected.

 

He won't win this time either - decent people are generally in the majority. But the actually rigged part of the system may yet again see the loser of the vote installed in the WH.

 

Interesting days.

I shouldn't do it, but here's my prediction for the November elections.

74 million American adults voted for Trump in 2020. Not many will have changed their minds.

Voter turnout was 66% in 2020, but will be much lower this year. And that will hurt Biden more, especially because of his abhorrent Israel Palestine policies, and voters staying home or voting blank in battleground states. The archaic electoral college, that Biden has never even attempted to change of course, will do the rest.

Predictions are difficult, especially with regard to the future.

[charleskerins]

3 hours ago, riclag said:

First time for everything !

First former Potus to be dem convicted , as a result his donation site crashed!

 

Piers  Morgan     consider the source

[charleskerins]

3 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Is he dead? 

no but the person you responded to   is still clueless        what's the political affiliation of the 12 jurors ?  He doesn't know  

[thaibeachlovers]

37 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Good gosh. Comparing Snowden to Trump? Bizarre. He broke the law. Plain and simple.

The appeal court will rule on that.

[Hanaguma]

17 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

No. If ANY individual had perpetrated these crimes in order to rig an election, this same verdict would be handed down. It won't be reversed, the evidence was obviously too overwhelming.

Really? There was no evidence presented that these acts were committed to rig an election. The prosecution was very careful to NOT say what the underlying offence was that elevated 34 minor misdemeanours to the level of felonies. The judge in his instructions said the same.  

 

If you think that the 'revelation' that Trump slept with a porn star would have scuppered his election chances, you don't know the American people very well. It may well have had the opposite effect...

[candide]

6 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 
Talking points for Dems

Cohen had an epiphany and is a good guy
Stormy has become a nun
Bragg never said "I'll get Trump" it was AI
Clinton never deleted her emails - a staffer did it
Fani loves Trump, but she has to do her job
Biden never had any boxes in his garage
Biden is only pretending to have dementia
Hunter was only pretending to take drugs
Cohen never stole the money - Trump told him to do it
We don't want those immigrants' votes - we want them to wash our cars
Merchans' daughter is a closet GOP surrogate and only pretends to hate Trump 

 

Nice try! Most of those so-called Dem talking points have been made up by you. 😀

 

All what I lusted can be found in MAGA posts in this thread.

 

The Dem/Liberal talking point is simply: Trump has been convicted. Just as three years ago it was: Biden won the election! 😀

[charleskerins]

3 minutes ago, Presto said:

I shouldn't do it, but here's my prediction for the November elections.

74 million American adults voted for Trump in 2020. Not many will have changed their minds.

Voter turnout was 66% in 2020, but will be much lower this year. And that will hurt Biden more, especially because of his abhorrent Israel Palestine policies, and voters staying home or voting blank in battleground states. The archaic electoral college, that Biden has never even attempted to change of course, will do the rest.

Predictions are difficult, especially with regard to the future.

Predictions are especially difficult when you don't understand the US Constitution Biden can't change the Electoral College.

[charleskerins]

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

The appeal court will rule on that.

Awww your hero is a fing criminal

[charleskerins]

3 hours ago, Moncul said:

He only needed one.

😁

I know  it was a play on the Georgia 11,000    

[charleskerins]

3 hours ago, jvs said:

Looking at the verdict i would say the 2016 election was rigged?

It was  17,000 votes in 3 states   and what did we do about it?  Nothing

[thaibeachlovers]

4 minutes ago, Presto said:

The archaic electoral college, that Biden has never even attempted to change of course, will do the rest.

Strange comment. Perhaps you should research what is involved in changing the constitution.

There is as much chance of the electoral college being abolished as a snowfall in central Australia.

I have no idea why you even think Biden can change it.

[Chomper Higgot]

8 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 Only those who suffer would say  🤪

CDC reference number?

[thaibeachlovers]

3 minutes ago, charleskerins said:

Awww your hero is a fing criminal

Obviously never read any of my posts. I've never said that Trump is my hero.

 

Pretty typical post of yours attacking other posters instead of discussing the topic.

 

Next.

[JonnyF]

39 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Trump wasn’t convicted in less than twelve hours, the trial went on for weeks.

 

The jury deliberated for less than 12 hours. Almost like they had already made their minds up. 

 

39 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

 

I do accept that you might not be used to the rich and powerful being held accountable to the law, but holding a rich and powerful criminal accountable to the law in open court of law and judged by a jury is the polar opposite of ‘Banana Republic’ behavior.

 

 

 

 

Of course the rich and powerful can be convicted. It depends if they are on the wrong side of the political divide. 

 

Look at Thailand for example, Thaksin (like Trump) was removed. In fact Thailand now has many similarities to the USA in terms of removing popular politicians via kangaroo courts.

[Moncul]

9 hours ago, candide said:

1. If I remember well, there was a kind of infrastructure bill  voted with the support of Democrats under Trump.. Republicans tended to oppose it

Well in reality....
 

Quote

"Donald Trump campaigned on a $1 trillion infrastructure plan. “We are going to fix our inner cities and rebuild our highways, bridges, tunnels, airports, schools, hospitals,” he said in his 2016 election night victory speech. “And we will put millions of our people to work as we rebuild it.”

And

 

Quote

 

The Trump administration’s record on infrastructure is marked instead by over-hype and under-delivery. The $1 trillion (later $1.5 trillion) package boiled down to a series of White House budget sketches, proposing to use $200 billion as an incentive for private investors, states and localities to put up the remaining $800 billion. “We believe this will create a great return on taxpayer dollars,” stated a 2018 White House press release, which cited a $5.4 billion light-rail referendum in Nashville as the kind of locally-funded project the administration hoped to encourage. Nashville voters rejected the rail measure three months later. And the president’s building vows never came to pass.

“I think we’ll look back on these four years as a missed opportunity,” said Adie Tomer, a fellow at the Brookings Institution Metropolitan Policy Program. “This administration has been a major letdown for nearly all state and local officials and advocates.”

 

He promised to "deport every immigrant living in the US illegally. He ended up deporting less than Obama did.

It makes me laugh when trump supporters claim "He did everything he said he would".

The bloke is a grifter who relies on the confirmation bias, poor education and short attention span of his supporters.

 

[Moncul]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

The appeal won't be settled before the November election.  But their real intent isn't to put Trump in prison.  It's to keep him off the ballot.  

 

A criminal conviction doesn't keep him off the ballot.

Even being jailed doesn't keep him off the ballot.

 

[Moncul]

2 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Cheers mate - we gotta do what we gotta do. 

Life is too short and lefties with TDS need to get a life - someone's gotta tell them.

 

Yet the jury decided Trump is a bigger liar than Cohen.

I wish you could learn something from that, but you've got Trump Derangement Syndrome.

[HappyExpat57]

22 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 
Talking points for Dems

Cohen had an epiphany and is a good guy
Stormy has become a nun
Bragg never said "I'll get Trump" it was AI
Clinton never deleted her emails - a staffer did it
Fani loves Trump, but she has to do her job
Biden never had any boxes in his garage
Biden is only pretending to have dementia
Hunter was only pretending to take drugs
Cohen never stole the money - Trump told him to do it
We don't want those immigrants' votes - we want them to wash our cars
Merchans' daughter is a closet GOP surrogate and only pretends to hate Trump 

 

Neither clever nor anywhere near correct. Next time, try harder .

[Moncul]

1 hour ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

I tend to agree that thjis was the plan. But I think Trump will pursue speedy resolution because of the elections. If that is rejected and Trump fails to get a stay of proceedings, and is then blokced from being a candidtate, 

 

Why would he be "blokced from being a candidtate" <sic> ?

[HappyExpat57]

7 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Yea ... I think he's done as a political opponent.   Which in itself is scary for the USA.   If biden gets the nod from Dems, it's even scarier thinking harris will finish out his term.

 

 

 

WHAT the HELL?!?!? Has the earth tilted on its axis???

That's TWO posts of yours I agree with.

 

Well, I guess hell HAS frozen over.

[Moncul]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

 

No I don't agree that the laws should be changed to exclude people with a criminal conviction a day after Trump is convicted of all 34 out of 34 charges in less than 12 hours.

 

That's the type of thing that happens in banana republics. Despite recent events, I'd like to think America is still above that type of thing.  

Would that not require a constutional amendment?