Celsius Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 Ivanka for president 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 49 minutes ago, stoner said: the man is suffering from some dark demons. he needs medical and mental help not jail time. I doubt it would help. His propensity to lie and make poor decisions appears to be inherited, genetic. Nature or Nurture? I'd lean towards nature on this one, but clearly Joe's parenting skills are severely lacking to raise a child so devoid of morality. 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post impulse Posted June 12 Popular Post Share Posted June 12 3 hours ago, pomchop said: IF there is any EVIDENCE of joe committing a crime i suspect we would have seen it by now as they have been harping on it for years... There's evidence out the wazoo in the House investigation and the Hur report. You can look that up yourself. But would you want to be in the history books as the cause of a Kamala presidency, by way of impeachment? Joe's gotta get re-elected, just to stay out of jail himself. Keep in mind that the Hur report is just a recommendation. It doesn't exonerate Joe with prejudice. Next DOJ may decide differently. 1 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JCauto Posted June 12 Popular Post Share Posted June 12 13 minutes ago, JonnyF said: OK, that's the first 2 of my predictions proved right. 1. Hunter convicted 2. The left screaming this proves Trump's trial wasn't a stitch up. Only number 3 to go... 3. An unusually light sentence. Wow, look at you! Taking the most obvious results based on logic and even the most basic knowledge of the justice system and making accurate predictions! This may seem trivial to the vast majority of sentient humans, but for someone who has completely swallowed the Right-Wing Agitprop, this is an important first step. Now keep using those logical facilities - we may even be able to have a nuanced and productive debate before November at this rate! 1 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 17 minutes ago, JonnyF said: OK, that's the first 2 of my predictions proved right. 1. Hunter convicted 2. The left screaming this proves Trump's trial wasn't a stitch up. Only number 3 to go... 3. An unusually light sentence. And you’ve demonstrated how Philippe’s ill informed you are on the administration of justice in the U.S. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoner Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 2 minutes ago, JonnyF said: I doubt it would help. His propensity to lie and make poor decisions appears to be inherited, genetic. Nature or Nurture? I'd lean towards nature on this one, but clearly Joe's parenting skills are severely lacking to raise a child so devoid of morality. ya i said previously that bad parenting is partially to blame for the way the child turned out. lots of people will dismiss it in whatever way they can but its reality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: And you’ve demonstrated how Philippe’s ill informed you are on the administration of justice in the U.S. I know how it is supposed to be administered. I also know how the grubby world of politics can get involved, even if you try to gaslight everyone that the American justice legal system is purer than the driven snow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted June 12 Popular Post Share Posted June 12 1 hour ago, Hanaguma said: And the Tugster wins the prize for the record "b-b-but Trump!", Managed to sneak it in with the very first response to the topic. Congratulations! Comparing the reactions to the 2 cases is entirely Germaine to this thread one group accepts the verdict gracefully with family unity the other person screams kangaroo court I’m the victim bla bla bla ……try’s to intimidate threatens and calls for violence it what it is 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pomchop Posted June 12 Popular Post Share Posted June 12 7 minutes ago, impulse said: There's evidence out the wazoo in the House investigation and the Hur report. You can look that up yourself. But would you want to be in the history books as the cause of a Kamala presidency, by way of impeachment? Joe's gotta get re-elected, just to stay out of jail himself. Keep in mind that the Hur report is just a recommendation. It doesn't exonerate Joe with prejudice. Next DOJ may decide differently. Seems hur disagrees with your take on evidence...as for a "house investigation" evidence..the only evidence i see is a bunch of right wing magas making fools of themselves to try and fundraise from the brain dead maga morons. The Hur report: “We have concluded that there is not a prosecutable case against Biden. Although there was a basis to open the investigation based on the fact that classified documents were found in Biden’s homes and office space, that is insufficient to establish a crime was committed. The illegal retention or dissemination of national defense information requires that he knew of the existence of such documents and that he knew they contained national defense information. It is not a crime without those additional elements. Our investigation, after a thorough year-long review, concludes that there is an absence of such necessary proof. Indeed, we have found a number of innocent explanations as to which we found no contrary evidence to refute them and found affirmative evidence in support of them.” 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hanaguma Posted June 12 Popular Post Share Posted June 12 20 minutes ago, Tug said: Comparing the reactions to the 2 cases is entirely Germaine to this thread one group accepts the verdict gracefully with family unity the other person screams kangaroo court I’m the victim bla bla bla ……try’s to intimidate threatens and calls for violence it what it is Keep telling yourself that. The original post mentioned NONE of what you are talking about. It is completely irrelevant. But you simply can't resist inserting The Donald into every discussion, perhaps you should look at why that is. The Bad Orange Man broke you, didn't he? 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiian Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 45 minutes ago, JCauto said: This is why the world is wasting an incredible resource just sitting around waiting to solve problems. The ASEAN Now Top Detective Team can read the evidence on a hard drive from watching a video! Why worry about AI, when the ASEAN Now Shamuses are on the case!?! It is not just a video. It is a 43 minute interview of the man who Hunter Biden took his water damaged laptop to requesting retrieval of what was recorded on the hard drives There were actually 3 laptops brought in, but only one was not damage beyond use. The FBI tried, but was unsuccessful at getting anything out of the other two laptops. I am far from being a sleuth and don't claim to be one. I'll leave that up to the experts such as you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thingamabob Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 This is the least important of the cases against Hunter Biden. Wealth derived from influence peddling yet to be addressed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomchop Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 51 minutes ago, JonnyF said: The Biden crime family continuing to disgrace the reputation of America. Evidence, not talking points, is required in courts. Fox "news" paid 750 million for misinformation and stated under oath that "Fox is not a news provider but simply entertainment". Remember that when trumpers parrot the Fox lies. The court should have ordered that to scroll across the screen on all fox "news" programs. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCauto Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 3 minutes ago, Hawaiian said: It is not just a video. It is a 43 minute interview of the man who Hunter Biden took his water damaged laptop to requesting retrieval of what was recorded on the hard drives There were actually 3 laptops brought in, but only one was not damage beyond use. The FBI tried, but was unsuccessful at getting anything out of the other two laptops. I am far from being a sleuth and don't claim to be one. I'll leave that up to the experts such as you. "After watching the video of Mac Isaac's interview, the computer shop owner, I would say there is a lot more damning evidence on the hard drive; evidence more damning than the gun charges." So who is making claims about the evidence on the laptop from a video, was that someone else who also is named "Hawaiian"? You're the AN Top Detective, not me. Do you have a special room in your house with a frosted glass window with your PI name on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomchop Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 1 minute ago, Thingamabob said: This is the least important of the cases against Hunter Biden. Wealth derived from influence peddling yet to be addressed. Evidence? You know that stuff that has to be presented in court....BS conspiracy theories and fox talking points don't cut it. And are you equally concerned about "influence peddling" as regards to kushner getting two billion from the Saudis and Ivanka conveniently being given hard to get chinese patents? Doesn't seemto be a concern but while we are looking for evidence lets take a look at those arrangements as well? When does the house investigation start on those two? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 1 hour ago, JonnyF said: The Biden crime family continuing to disgrace the reputation of America. There is no such thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomchop Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 10 minutes ago, Hawaiian said: It is not just a video. It is a 43 minute interview of the man who Hunter Biden took his water damaged laptop to requesting retrieval of what was recorded on the hard drives There were actually 3 laptops brought in, but only one was not damage beyond use. The FBI tried, but was unsuccessful at getting anything out of the other two laptops. I am far from being a sleuth and don't claim to be one. I'll leave that up to the experts such as you. The only experts that matter is those who can present clear no BS evidence of a crime. No evidence means no conviction. Courts do not deal in hearsay and theories. Its not rocket science but in today's world of accusations, political posturing, propoganda, for now at least it takes real no BS evidence that will stand up under inspection in a court where both sides get to lay out whatever they deem to be evidence and the jury takes a look at all of it and decides guilty or not guilty. Judges and juries are not as dumb as some seem to think that they will convict on conspiracy theories. rumours, and lies...they like to see texts,documents,videos, audios, preferably corraborated by witnesses who were there. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted June 12 Popular Post Share Posted June 12 2 minutes ago, Jingthing said: There is no such thing. Oh really? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13505151/biden-family-drugs-business-deals-crimes.html 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 Daddy will pardon him as soon as the ink is dry on the verdict. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 (edited) 4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: One hopes that is more like 100% for a prison sentence. Will daddy change his mind and pardon him? You don't know the guy personally. He never did anything to you. He's not a politician or public figure. Yet you want him to be imprisoned. Maga cult rots the brain. I have no idea whether a random person with the same history and crimes would be imprisoned or not and neither do you. Edited June 12 by Jingthing 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retarius Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 Oh judge, tell its it is not so! Our whiter than white President's son (and if we were a monarchy, next in line to the Oval Orofice). I had hoped that thew criminal DOJ might have looked into his dealings with Burisma, since the income he received was what paid for the drugs, guns, alcohol, hookers and fast cars. Some might indict the IRS since he paid no income tax on his income from Bursima, meaning that Burisma and the IRS jointly enabled his crimes on drugs, alcohol, hookers, fast cars and guns. I just made a huge bet with a mate of mine that he will never see a single night banged up inside of a jail cell. He needs sympathy and understanding not condemnation (5555555555555........the other part of the bet is that Joe pardons him if the judge jails him. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 (edited) 7 minutes ago, connda said: Daddy will pardon him as soon as the ink is dry on the verdict. No f in way. Also there are already guilty verdicts. Edited June 12 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 5 minutes ago, retarius said: Oh judge, tell its it is not so! Our whiter than white President's son (and if we were a monarchy, next in line to the Oval Orofice). I had hoped that thew criminal DOJ might have looked into his dealings with Burisma, since the income he received was what paid for the drugs, guns, alcohol, hookers and fast cars. Some might indict the IRS since he paid no income tax on his income from Bursima, meaning that Burisma and the IRS jointly enabled his crimes on drugs, alcohol, hookers, fast cars and guns. I just made a huge bet with a mate of mine that he will never see a single night banged up inside of a jail cell. He needs sympathy and understanding not condemnation (5555555555555........the other part of the bet is that Joe pardons him if the judge jails him. Yeah my guess is the poor little rich boy will get rehab and a suspended sentence. Maybe some community service at the most. I doubt the Dems would have agreed to the guilty verdict without such an agreement in place. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 6 hours ago, Social Media said: Joe Biden released a statement emphasizing his dual role as both a father and the President. “I am the President, but I am also a dad,” he stated, expressing unwavering support and love for his son. He reiterated his confidence in Hunter and his respect for the judicial process, affirming that he would not intervene with a presidential pardon. What a study in contrast between a tight knit Biden family and the dysfunctional Trump family. A family that respect the judicial process and a narcisstic miscreant disdain for the rule of law. What an utter shame for the election to have Trump as a candidate. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 13 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Yeah my guess is the poor little rich boy will get rehab and a suspended sentence. Maybe some community service at the most. I doubt the Dems would have agreed to the guilty verdict without such an agreement in place. Outright garbage. The Jury decide the verdict, not the Democrats, a fact explained to you more than once. Your misinformation posts are not simply ignorance, they are clearly intentional. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat is a type of crazy Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 1 hour ago, JonnyF said: OK, that's the first 2 of my predictions proved right. 1. Hunter convicted 2. The left screaming this proves Trump's trial wasn't a stitch up. Only number 3 to go... 3. An unusually light sentence. Yes it is a big game of join the dots and Trump is the real victim but he is all that there is between the tyrannical government and you being the victim so send more money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EVENKEEL Posted June 12 Popular Post Share Posted June 12 1 hour ago, JonnyF said: I doubt it would help. His propensity to lie and make poor decisions appears to be inherited, genetic. Nature or Nurture? I'd lean towards nature on this one, but clearly Joe's parenting skills are severely lacking to raise a child so devoid of morality. Great point Nature or Nurture. Hunter grew up in a 10,000sf Mansion and had the best schooling. Not exactly the background for a crack addict. There must have been signs of drug use along the way. He got kicked out of the Navy for drug use. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yagoda Posted June 12 Popular Post Share Posted June 12 (edited) For 5o plus years the Democrats, as part and parcel of their murderous Socialist ideology, have screeched and frothed for more and more "gun control" as they trampled the rights of legitimate gun owners. Mistakes on the Federal Form that Hunter lied on can and have resulted in the revocation of licenses of gun sellers. Lying and hypocrisy seems to be a function of Democrat-Leninists. Bet Hunter appeals on the constituionality of the law. Im looking for the source, but in 2022? there were 9,0000 convictions in Federal Court for 922g violations, the average sentence was 63 months. The mandatory sentencing guidelines for a first offense is 15-21 months. Thats the minimum he will get unless the Judge can justify something less. Edited June 12 by Yagoda 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiian Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 26 minutes ago, pomchop said: The only experts that matter is those who can present clear no BS evidence of a crime. No evidence means no conviction. Courts do not deal in hearsay and theories. Its not rocket science but in today's world of accusations, political posturing, propoganda, for now at least it takes real no BS evidence that will stand up under inspection in a court where both sides get to lay out whatever they deem to be evidence and the jury takes a look at all of it and decides guilty or not guilty. Judges and juries are not as dumb as some seem to think that they will convict on conspiracy theories. rumours, and lies...they like to see texts,documents,videos, audios, preferably corraborated by witnesses who were there. Why did the judge allow photos and other evidence of drug use retrieved from Hunter Biden's phone and laptop to be introduced by the prosecution? You seem to think I have no knowledge of what the rules for admissible evidence are. Go preach to someone else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 6 hours ago, Jingthing said: Maga fascists think their dear cult leader and his violent insurrectionist goons are. Which goons were charged with insurrection? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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