1 minute ago, novacova said:

We were there last week, the wife was looking at laptops. 

 

Looking at laptops with a dedicated graphics card with 4GB of VRAM at a price of20k? I don't think so 😊

 

1 hour ago, Robert Paulson said:

Stay away from asus. 100% crap. Lenovo good

I would keep also the Fingers of from Lenovo, just had one. At first both Hinges were broken, new Screen installed under warranty. A week later Harddrive was broken, replaced at own costs. And again not even two weeks later the Motherboard was broken, replaced under warranty. Now I have an Acer Aspire 7, basically good but Battery is good for max. 4 hours only and the volume of the speakers is very limited. No MS Office packed installed, have to buy extra if needed.

22 minutes ago, NowNow said:

 

Perhaps link to an example with 4GB of VRAM? Easy to just throw things out without much aforethought...

You want to buy a laptop for 20k.

You won't find a good new laptop for that kind of money. This is why I recommended buying a used one.

But I won't spend my time to look for one for you.

I recommended a ThinkPad, now it's time for you to look at the details - at least if you want to do that.

1 minute ago, UWEB said:

I would keep also the Fingers of from Lenovo, just had one. At first both Hinges were broken, new Screen installed under warranty. A week later Harddrive was broken, replaced at own costs. And again not even two weeks later the Motherboard was broken, replaced under warranty. Now I have an Acer Aspire 7, basically good but Battery is good for max. 4 hours only and the volume of the speakers is very limited. No MS Office packed installed, have to buy extra if needed.

Lenovo might be good, or not so good.

If you want a good one, buy a ThinkPad made for business, i.e. the T series. They are about as good as it gets.

17 minutes ago, NowNow said:

 

Looking at laptops with a dedicated graphics card with 4GB of VRAM at a price of20k? I don't think so 😊

 

Install more system ram, that will increase the shared VRAM for integrated graphics. Ram is cheap, good quality such as Hynix or Samsung will do and the machine will run cooler.  And the op can stay within reason of his price range. 

Ive got one of these, goes good.

 

https://www.lazada.co.th/products/lenovo-ideapad-gaming-3-15ach6-82k2027uta-amd-ryzen-5-5500hram-16gb-ddr4-3200mhzssd-512-gbnvidia-geforce-rtx-2050-4-gb-i5168526630-s21897539857.html?c=&channelLpJumpArgs=&clickTrackInfo=query%3A%3Bnid%3A5168526630%3Bsrc%3AlazadaInShopSrp%3Brn%3A47723216fc857792032eed19c8dffe8c%3Bregion%3Ath%3Bsku%3A5168526630_TH%3Bprice%3A22920%3Bclient%3Adesktop%3Bsupplier_id%3A100727120138%3Bbiz_source%3Ah5_internal%3Bslot%3A2%3Butlog_bucket_id%3A470687%3Basc_category_id%3A9663%3Bitem_id%3A5168526630%3Bsku_id%3A21897539857%3Bshop_id%3A4730445&fastshipping=0&freeshipping=1&fs_ab=2&fuse_fs=&lang=en&location=Bangkok&price=2.292E 4&priceCompare=skuId%3A21897539857%3Bsource%3Alazada-search-voucher-in-shop%3Bsn%3A47723216fc857792032eed19c8dffe8c%3BunionTrace%3Aa3b534a417196552659956294e%3BoriginPrice%3A2292000%3BvoucherPrice%3A2292000%3BdisplayPrice%3A2292000%3BsinglePromotionId%3A-1%3BsingleToolCode%3A-1%3BvoucherPricePlugin%3A1%3BbuyerId%3A2834308%3Btimestamp%3A1719655266247&ratingscore=&request_id=47723216fc857792032eed19c8dffe8c&review=&sale=0&search=1&spm=a2o4m.store_product.list.2&stock=1

17 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

You want to buy a laptop for 20k.

You won't find a good new laptop for that kind of money. This is why I recommended buying a used one.

But I won't spend my time to look for one for you.

I recommended a ThinkPad, now it's time for you to look at the details - at least if you want to do that.

 

It's not for me. The OP asked for a laptop with a particular specification for 20k. 

Since you suggest a second hand Thinkpad, you must know of a Thinkpad model that fits the specification. Dedicated Graphics with 4GB of VRAM. It would certainly be helpful if you named it. Then they can search for that model and try to find on near budget.

25 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Lenovo might be good, or not so good.

If you want a good one, buy a ThinkPad made for business, i.e. the T series. They are about as good as it gets.

Never ever again a Lenovo, lifetime of 18 month for a Notebook is far too short.

5 minutes ago, UWEB said:

Never ever again a Lenovo, lifetime of 18 month for a Notebook is far too short.

Over many years I had several of them and my customers used them. I remember only one problem with any of them - a bad hinge. 

 

I bought the last one a couple of years ago including 3 years warranty. The warranty even includes if I drop it. I paid a little extra for that extended warranty, but it was really only a little extra.

1 hour ago, NowNow said:

 

Be aware that having dedicated graphics will shorten the battery duration between charges.

What's "dedicated graphics?"

Just now, connda said:

What's "dedicated graphics?"

a separate graphics board in addition to one on the motherboard

12 minutes ago, connda said:

What's "dedicated graphics?"

 

Dedicated gpu, a module card that fits into a slot…

Integrated gpu, built into the processor…

 

 

1 hour ago, UWEB said:

I would keep also the Fingers of from Lenovo, just had one. At first both Hinges were broken, new Screen installed under warranty. A week later Harddrive was broken, replaced at own costs. And again not even two weeks later the Motherboard was broken, replaced under warranty. Now I have an Acer Aspire 7, basically good but Battery is good for max. 4 hours only and the volume of the speakers is very limited. No MS Office packed installed, have to buy extra if needed.

I reinstall the operating system of any computer I purchase if it comes pre-loaded.  There is no way that I trust what someone else has pre-loaded on a computer.  Rather have a clean install as well as only installing the apps I want.  No MS Office?  No problem - I have used free Libre Office for years.  Thanks for the info!

26 minutes ago, novacova said:

 

Dedicated gpu, a module card that fits into a slot…

Integrated gpu, built into the processor…

 

 

 

How can you have "dedicated graphics" in a laptop.  They don't have PCI adapter slots that I'm aware of.  So how can a laptop have dedicated graphics?  Just wondering.  I really am ignorant here.

7 minutes ago, connda said:

 

How can you have "dedicated graphics" in a laptop.  They don't have PCI adapter slots that I'm aware of.  So how can a laptop have dedicated graphics?  Just wondering.  I really am ignorant here.

 every laptop i have ever owned has had a separate nvidia graphics board in addition to the intel graphics on the motherboard.

here, take your pick

https://www.google.com/search?q=laptop+dedicated+graphics+card&oq=laptop+dedicated+graphics

3 hours ago, connda said:

True that, but what I've attempting to do is wrap my head around configurations that fit my needs, ie, Processor, graphic setup that is in my price range.  Examples are good, but if the store doesn't have a specific make/model then I'm looking for similar rigs with similar configurations.  But I got to start with examples to give me an idea of what to look for.

 

I personally wouldn't get a laptop with graphic card using shared RAM/memory.  Should have it's own dedicated RAM.   And you might need to up your budget more than 20k.

 

Last 2 we got, ASUS & Lenovo, me & wife, and were about eh 25k mark.  3 yrs old for me/ASUS (from JIB online), and maybe shy of 2 for her Lenovo, both running good (Win10).

 

The ASUS having dedicated graphic card, needed to run 2 of my programs for editing photos.   Promo for card (from NVIDIA):

 

Graphic card made a major difference over prior laptop, another ASUS, and gave that one to daughter.

 

I would steer clear of HP / Acer, as too proprietary ... and crap.

1 minute ago, n00dle said:

 every laptop i have ever owned has had a separate nvidia graphics board in addition to the intel graphics on the motherboard.

here, take your pick

https://www.google.com/search?q=laptop+dedicated+graphics+card&oq=laptop+dedicated+graphics

Really?  Well I just learned something new.  I've been out of IT for close to two decades and I haven't kept up on changes in hardware architecture.  I need a "Dummies Guide To Laptop Hardware" or something like that.  Thanks for the link. 

2 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

I personally wouldn't get a laptop with graphic card using shared RAM/memory.  Should have it's own dedicated RAM.   And you might need to up your budget more than 20k.

Yeah agreed, but I don't know sh*te about the hardware configuration of laptops - but I'm learning fast.  The app(s) I want to run takes 4GB VRAM so yeah, shared memory is not the way to go.  So looking for laptops with a dedicated graphics card now that I know they exist.  Thanks for the info! 

2 minutes ago, connda said:

Yeah agreed, but I don't know sh*te about the hardware configuration of laptops - but I'm learning fast.  The app(s) I want to run takes 4GB VRAM so yeah, shared memory is not the way to go.  So looking for laptops with a dedicated graphics card now that I know they exist.  Thanks for the info! 

 They are particularly useful if you are running high-def multiple monitor setups

4 minutes ago, connda said:

Yeah agreed, but I don't know sh*te about the hardware configuration of laptops - but I'm learning fast.  The app(s) I want to run takes 4GB VRAM so yeah, shared memory is not the way to go.  So looking for laptops with a dedicated graphics card now that I know they exist.  Thanks for the info! 

Not sure what's available now, but the NVIDIA MX 350 was configured as:

 

That wee bit made a huge difference in graphic processing speed over the DDRs available at the time.   I'm not much of a techie myself, and the program software stated minumum specs to use, and it was a noticeable difference.  LightRoom was instant response now, and Topaz DeNoise needed it just to operate.

 

Actually bought the newer laptop (RAM, SSD & graphic card) just for editing.   Oher laptop was like 5 yrs old, and not really worth upgrading.

 

Newer ASUS is from their VivoBook line, if that helps.

 

 

Take a peek here, it's a LAZMALL vendor  ... ASUS shows upgradable 

 

INFO from Cambo site (base model):

 

LAZ INFO:

 

I've been poking around on trying to learn more.  Thunderbolt ports and eGPUs.  Never knew they existed.  I need to get a current book on laptops and read up.  I am wayyyyyy in back of the tech curve.  Moore's Law has left me in the dust since my IT days almost 2 decades ago. 

data and specs sheet :  

https://sp.ts.fujitsu.com/dmsp/Publications/public/ds-LIFEBOOK-U7412.pdf

 

 

 

 

7 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Take a peek here, it's a LAZMALL vendor  ... ASUS shows upgradable 

 

INFO from Cambo site (base model):

 

LAZ INFO:

 

Out of Stock at that vendor ... other options/vendors

21 hours ago, connda said:

Normal use Internet, writing, online conferencing, but also using Whisper AI as a transcription tool  Minimum VRAM on a graphics care (GPU) needs to be 4GB.

 

We were at airport central this morning and this was sitting in the jib shop…

 

Anyway, best of luck 

12 minutes ago, novacova said:

 

We were at airport central this morning and this was sitting in the jib shop…

 

Anyway, best of luck 

 

Full spec: https://psref.lenovo.com/Detail/2301?M=82XV00N3TA

 

At that price point, there is also this: https://www.lazada.co.th/products/asus-vivobook-pro-15-d6500qe-hn701w-156-inch-gaming-and-creator-laptop-fhd-ips-144hz-amd-ryzen-7-5800h-16gb-ddr4-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3050-ti-512gb-m2-nvme-pcie-30-ssd-wifi-6-fingerprint-i5022381965-s21592450230.html

https://www.asus.com/th/laptops/for-home/vivobook/vivobook-pro-15-d6500-amd-ryzen-5000-series/

Better graphics, but the Lenovo has the edge with a updated platform.

"I’d recommend looking at laptops with dedicated GPUs like the Acer Aspire 7 or Lenovo Legion 5, which often come with NVIDIA GTX 1650 or 1660 Ti cards. These GPUs have their own VRAM (4GB or more), so they won’t share memory with the CPU. Paired with an Intel i5 or i7 processor, they’re powerful enough for AI applications and conferencing apps like Zoom. Plus, they can handle Windows 11 and Linux without any issues.

 

I had a similar experience trying to find the right balance of specs and price when I bought my laptop in Germany. German engineering meets budget-friendly prices for tech enthusiasts like me, and I found great discounts on laptops designed for performance without breaking the bank. If you’re buying in-store, make sure to test the keyboard and screen quality, as those matter for daily use

On 6/29/2024 at 3:12 PM, Robert Paulson said:

Stay away from asus. 100% crap. Lenovo good

 

On my fifth ASUS laptop since around 1996. Despite being retired, the previous four were all still working when replaced with a newer model. The latest one is two years old.

 

I only ever needed one warranty repair (new motherboard) that was handled well by ASUS in Bangkok as the laptop was bought in the US and, although having an extended international warranty, the model wasn't marketed in Asia. Took six weeks with a new mobo coming from Taiwan.

 

My office computers all had ASUS mobo's too. However, the new one is a Lenovo ThinkCenter mini which is very good.