Realistically speaking, do you think Trump will last till November?

[cjinchiangrai]

4 hours ago, susanlea said:

Like the ones who stopped Hillary 

Da comrade.

[Lacessit]

3 minutes ago, AgMech Cowboy said:

Won't happen. He'll appeal the NY conviction and win easily and the other 'show' charges will be dismissed.

That is only one of four criminal trials he is facing. You think he is going to win them all?

 

I don't know which one is worse, inciting insurrection or illegally retaining classified documents. They are far from "show" charges, unless someone drinks the Trump koolaid.

[Zack61]

On 8/3/2024 at 3:39 PM, Jingthing said:

If he thinks it will be close (which is probably still the most likely result) he'll stay and try to incite a civil war to take power if he loses narrowly. 

Most likely outcome. He sows the seeds of civil war every time he waffles on in front of his mindless disciples. He’s positioning himself for a war just as he did in 2020. 
America might be broken but this piece of sh*t is not the answer. If he wins, everyone loses. 

[frank83628]

2 minutes ago, Zack61 said:

Most likely outcome. He sows the seeds of civil war every time he waffles on in front of his mindless disciples. He’s positioning himself for a war just as he did in 2020. 
America might be broken but this piece of sh*t is not the answer. If he wins, everyone loses. 

the people sowing the seeds of civil war are the mainstream media!

[frank83628]

5 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

That is only one of four criminal trials he is facing. You think he is going to win them all?

 

I don't know which one is worse, inciting insurrection or illegally retaining classified documents. They are far from "show" charges, unless someone drinks the Trump koolaid.

has Trump been charged with inciting insurrection?

[nauseus]

12 hours ago, watthong said:

 

 

You missed the "scary" part. So brush up on your vocabulary and don't keep repeating 3 words in a row and thinking that's a sentence. The way your master often does...

 

Sounds like sphincter-rattle. You should get that fixed.

[nauseus]

6 hours ago, susanlea said:

82 when he finishes office. 

 

He just visits now - out patient.

[nauseus]

3 hours ago, DualSportBiker said:

Oh get real. 

 

Inflationary pressures are baked in months in advance of changes in the rate of inflation. An economy the size of the US economy takes months to change direction. US inflation was going to go up regardless of the winner of the presidential race in 2020. Trump was lucky to loose as he would have had to wear what he created. The tax break for corporations and wealthy individuals along with the stimulus packages created the momentum for inflation which started just as he was leaving office:

 

You can't review US inflation in isolation - only a muppet would do that:

 

(https://www.investopedia.com/inflation-rates-us-and-the-world-7369986#:~:text=Inflation Around the World,rate%2C is the eighth lowest.)

 

US inflation came down further and faster than any other developed nation - under Biden.

 

Biden kicked butt with job creation:

 

 

Trump killed a bipartisan border bill solely to keep the problem alive. His interest in the border is selfishly political and he cares not about the problem itself. It is a tool just like his supporters.

 

As for Ukraine, only a myopic poorly educated and short-sighted fool would consider that Russia's actions there are not worthy of staunch opposition. Taking Russia's side is unfathomable. Trump seems to do so because he admires people who do what they want regardless of law, ethics or morality. He wants to be able to get away with rape, violence, fraud and subversion of democracy just like his poster-boy heroes, Putin, KJU and Xi. 

 

Trump only wins on these issues to people like you who are what you know yourself to be...

 

 

 

 

Bullshine post of the day. All of it.  

Edited August 5 by nauseus

[nauseus]

3 hours ago, Lacessit said:

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/10/trumps-final-numbers/

 

2019 cretin.

[susanlea]

45 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

the people sowing the seeds of civil war are the mainstream media!

Trump rallies peaceful

Msm spews up hate

[cjinchiangrai]

5 hours ago, susanlea said:

Trump beats her at golf too.

The only thing to say about Trump cheating his way through a round of golf is that it keeps him away from committing more serious crimes. Like the ones he has already been convicted for and the ones he is about to be.

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

has Trump been charged with inciting insurrection?

If you want to be pedantic, no. I assume you have heard of people using shorthand.

 

The special counsel indictment explained Trump was charged with conspiracy to defraud the United States, witness tampering, conspiracy against the rights of citizens, and obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding.

[nauseus]

3 hours ago, Wrwest said:

I certainly hope so. He and Vance are my best hope of a Blue wave.

 

Maybe this is a better bet.

 

[spidermike007]

Harris IQ is likely around 140. Trump IQ is likely around 85-95. Trump is increasingly unhinged and incoherent. Harris is scaring this man, and he is losing the plot. 

 

But, Harris needs to accept a hostile venue for the debate, to show she can beat him in any environment. Not doing so is foolish and makes her look weak, and scared.

 

From the NY Post, a Murdoch owner paper, and a conservative one. It would appear they are losing faith in Don and JD. 

 

A warning to Donald Trump and JD Vance: Tread carefully when it comes to women, including Vice President Kamala Harris. All signs point to a tight race in November, and the GOP ticket is already behind with women: In five battleground states, Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, Harris leads by 9 points or more with the ladies.

 

Closing that gap may be an uphill battle. Even if Trump were ahead, it would be foolish to ignore the power of women voters: About 7.4 million more women than men were registered to vote in 2022, according to the Center for American Women in Politics, and more women than men have voted in every presidential election since 1964. 

 

Besides, the chance to vote for a woman who feels like a relative newcomer will almost certainly attract female voters who sat out other elections (or even some of those who pulled the lever for Trump in 2016 because they couldn’t stomach the alternative). Sure, there are plenty of women who want what Trump and Vance are selling: school choice, parental rights, a better economy, safer neighborhoods and a more secure border.

 

But this is a different political landscape than 2016, and both Trump and Vance need to keep on the straight and narrow to avoid alienating female voters who might otherwise agree with them on policy.

 

Maybe Trump should start by quitting hurling derogatory nicknames and ad hominem insults at his foes. He can ding Kamala on policy without making crass comments or veering into petty pot shots about her looks or gender that might make women balk.

 

He and his running mate must certainly avoid missteps like the one Vance made in 2021, when he blasted “childless cat ladies” who run the country but are “miserable at their own lives and the choices that they’ve made.” He also foolishly suggested penalizing women without kids with higher taxes. For real?

 

Vance’s comments resurfaced recently and spread like wildfire on social media, drawing backlash from even conservative women. Trump and Vance need to reassure women that they take them seriously as a voting bloc, and they have no interest in pushing national policy that controls women’s decisions on family matters. The GOP ticket knows women will play a major role in deciding this election — perhaps they should start acting like it. 

Edited August 5 by spidermike007

[Dart12]

4 hours ago, ignore it said:

Whew!

It’s up to 11 pages of bickering and bashing starting Saturday AM.

I waded through the first couple of pages to get a feel for the thread.

Trump v Harris

It really doesn’t matter.

The US ain’t what it was when I was growing up in the 50’s and 60’s and went to war in the 70’s. Not that it was so great.

Now it is politically controlled media and industry donor controlled politicians.

It’s one of the prime reasons I live here.

The slow roll to government control, liberalism, and illegal residency is inevitable.

Too many powerful forces, domestic and foreign to overcome.

Trump might slow this, but dismantling the swampy mechanism a daunting task.

It’s somewhat saddening to realize I’m seeing the early stages of the death of the Republic.

they fully flipped the switch for what their intentions are when they manufactured A lockdown.

 

 People are so fixated on Trump.

 

Trump is just the distraction being used to keep eyes off the real problems.

 

They’re not looking at everything that happened is absolutely insane as happened in the last four years.

 

 Don’t give me anti Republican rhetoric Neuro linguistic repeated bs.

 

i’ve been on the left most of my life, but this stuff is liberal. It is a tearing down the fabric of the ability for anybody to oppose the government And the money that’s running it and the media and now Big tech.

 

Burn  The books ,burn history, create censorship,. Rewrite history and ignore facts..

 

All of It is happening right now in the west.

 

 And a lot of it it’s kind of like jealousy to get to where China is.

 

Got Vanguard and Blackrock buying up all the property residential and commercial that was affordable for class.

 

And you have Half the population Allowing it because they just put the focus on Orangeman evil.

 

Distraction at its finest

 

Edited August 5 by Dart12

[georgegeorgia]

I hope Kamala wins !

I want those borders open and those WALLS knocked down 

 

I want transexual rights and BLM matters 

I want America to lose its Superpower status 

 

[georgegeorgia]

2 hours ago, Zack61 said:

Most likely outcome. He sows the seeds of civil war every time he waffles on in front of his mindless disciples. He’s positioning himself for a war just as he did in 2020. 
America might be broken but this piece of sh*t is not the answer. If he wins, everyone loses. 

You will lose even if Kamala wins 

Mass immigration to America = lower wages 

But hey I'm not American so I hope you all suffer regardless 

Soon it will be cheaper to go to America for a "good time" with a bar girl than Asia😜

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

You will lose even if Kamala wins 

Mass immigration to America = lower wages 

But hey I'm not American so I hope you all suffer regardless 

Soon it will be cheaper to go to America for a "good time" with a bar girl than Asia😜

The left wants low wages. 

[DualSportBiker]

4 hours ago, susanlea said:

Oh dear how naive. Biden replaced jobs lost due to covid 

It is telling that you only respond to one of four topics you defined...

 

As for job creation, there are no serious economists who share your facile opinion. The sum of the bars under Biden is larger than the loss due to Covid. You also conveniently ignore that some of those job losses under Trump were driven by his appalling handling of the pandemic; inject bleach and bathe in UV light! Remember those classic "I am a clueless moron" moments? 

 

Also, can you elevate your trolling from zero-effort to perhaps that of a 6 year old? Grab some data rather than your unsupported opinions?

Edited August 5 by DualSportBiker

[susanlea]

4 minutes ago, DualSportBiker said:

There are no serious economists who share your facile opinion. The sum of the bars under Biden is larger than the loss due to Covid. Can you elevate your trolling from zero-effort to perhaps that of a 6 year old?

Oh dear 

 

Recovery versus “Creation.” Nearly 72 percent of all job gains since 2021 were simply jobs that were being recovered from the pandemic, not new job creation. In fact, when looking at today’s economy compared to pre-pandemic levels, employment is up only by 3.7 million.

 

https://budget.house.gov/press-release/fact-check-biden-misleads-on-job-creation-statistics

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, DualSportBiker said:

There are no serious economists who share your facile opinion. The sum of the bars under Biden is larger than the loss due to Covid. Can you elevate your trolling from zero-effort to perhaps that of a 6 year old?

If by "serious economists" you mean leftist academics, sure. 

 

In any event, I don't think anyone is arguing the rich have not, are not, and will not get richer under Harris/Biden. 

[susanlea]

6 minutes ago, DualSportBiker said:

There are no serious economists who share your facile opinion. The sum of the bars under Biden is larger than the loss due to Covid. Can you elevate your trolling from zero-effort to perhaps that of a 6 year old?

Labor Force Participation Was Stronger Under Trump. The labor force participation rate remains 0.7 percentage points lower under Biden than it was when President Trump was in office. When adjusting for population gains, nearly 2 million more Americans are on the sidelines today than they were during the previous Administration.

 

https://budget.house.gov/press-release/fact-check-biden-misleads-on-job-creation-statistics

[susanlea]

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

If by "serious economists" you mean leftist academics, sure. 

 

In any event, I don't think anyone is arguing the rich have not, are not, and will not get richer under Harris/Biden. 

Funny isnt it. I proved him wrong in 1 minute. Obviously the left have trouble with facts. So far I'm 100% versus the left. Defeated 10 of them. They never win. Average time for ko is 90 seconds.

[susanlea]

13 minutes ago, DualSportBiker said:

It is telling that you only respond to one of four topics you defined...

 

As for job creation, there are no serious economists who share your facile opinion. The sum of the bars under Biden is larger than the loss due to Covid. You also conveniently ignore that some of those job losses under Trump were driven by his appalling handling of the pandemic; inject bleach and bathe in UV light! Remember those classic "I am a clueless moron" moments? 

 

Also, can you elevate your trolling from zero-effort to perhaps that of a 6 year old? Grab some data rather than your unsupported opinions?

I don't remember you. Thanks for proving your knowledge of jobs though. Imagine calling someone a baby then losing in 1 minute. How embarrassment. Ask a 6yo to teach you google.

[DualSportBiker]

9 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Labor Force Participation Was Stronger Under Trump. The labor force participation rate remains 0.7 percentage points lower under Biden than it was when President Trump was in office. When adjusting for population gains, nearly 2 million more Americans are on the sidelines today than they were during the previous Administration.

 

https://budget.house.gov/press-release/fact-check-biden-misleads-on-job-creation-statistics

The trend lines for both red and blue sections are pretty much the same angle. There are many countries around the world that have yet to refill jobs lost in '21, so it can be argued that getting them back, then moving on at the same pace as before is a solid acheivment...

[susanlea]

Just now, DualSportBiker said:

The trend lines for both red and blue sections are pretty much the same angle. There are many countries around the world that have yet to refill jobs lost in '21, so it can be argued that getting them back, then moving on at the same pace as before is a solid acheivment...

 

So now your argument is a pretty line is the same slope. Good one.

[Roo Island]

12 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

If by "serious economists" you mean leftist academics, sure. 

 

In any event, I don't think anyone is arguing the rich have not, are not, and will not get richer under Harris/Biden. 

The rich are supporting Trump. He's the one who cut their taxes last time, including his own. Stunning anyone is ok with it

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, DualSportBiker said:

The trend lines for both red and blue sections are pretty much the same angle. There are many countries around the world that have yet to refill jobs lost in '21, so it can be argued that getting them back, then moving on at the same pace as before is a solid acheivment...

 

"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive."

[Roo Island]

Maga cult members are sheeple.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/20/trump-tax-bill-savings-analysis

 

Trump will personally save up to $15m under tax bill, analysis finds
This article is more than 6 years old

Jared Kushner will save up to $12m, while five other members of Trump’s inner circle will also see benefits worth millions of dollars

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

The rich are supporting Trump. He's the one who cut their taxes last time, including his own. Stunning anyone is ok with it

You are making another false claim, are you going to support it? I thought not.