Heartbreaking Photos Reveal Melting Swiss Glaciers: A 15-Year Comparison

[Social Media]

 

A married couple from Bristol has shared a pair of photographs taken 15 years apart, showcasing the alarming pace at which glaciers in the Swiss Alps are melting. The photos, posted by Duncan Porter, a software developer, depict the Rhône Glacier in August 2009 and again in August 2024. The stark contrast between the images highlights the devastating impact of global heating on these majestic ice formations.

 

In the earlier photo, the glacier's white ice dominates the background, while in the recent one, much of it has melted away, revealing grey rock. A small pool at the bottom of the glacier, barely visible in 2009, has transformed into a vast green lake by 2024. Porter shared the emotional impact of witnessing this drastic change, stating, “Not gonna lie, it made me cry,” in a post on the social media platform X.

 

 

Porter and his wife, Helen, who originally took the photograph during a visit to a viewpoint near a now-closed “Wes Anderson-style” hotel, were eager to recreate the image to show their teenage daughters, Maisie and Emily, the glacier. However, the stark difference between the two photos was both shocking and heartbreaking. Helen Porter, a nurse, expressed her disbelief, saying, “I thought it was really unbelievable.”

 

The significant melting of the Rhône Glacier is a direct result of the planet's rising temperatures. Since preindustrial times, carbon pollution from burning fossil fuels and destroying nature has increased global temperatures by 1.3°C. Europe, which has warmed twice as fast as the global average, has seen its glaciers melt at an alarming rate. Official statistics indicate that Switzerland has lost one-third of its glacier volume since 2000, with 10% of that loss occurring in just the past two years.

 

Porter, who is a committee member of a local climate action group in south-west England, emphasized the importance of taking action against climate change. He acknowledged that many people feel helpless when confronted with such stark evidence but pointed out that there are numerous ways individuals can contribute to the fight against climate change. He highlighted the role of local community projects and encouraged people to push for systemic change through their voting and shopping choices.

 

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has warned that in its worst-case scenario, “nearly all glacier mass” in low latitudes, central Europe, the Caucasus, western Canada and the US, north Asia, Scandinavia, and New Zealand could disappear in the coming centuries. While the Rhône Glacier has fared better than some other Swiss glaciers, it has still shrunk by about a quarter in the 15 years between Porter’s photographs.

 

Swiss climate scientist Sonia Seneviratne, who co-authored an IPCC report and visited the Rhône Glacier as a teenager, expressed her sadness at the photos. “It was a very impressive glacier,” she said. “It’s very sad to see those pictures because you see how large the changes have been.”

 

Porter’s post on X garnered widespread attention, with 3 million views and reactions ranging from horror to heartbreak. However, it also attracted comments from climate change deniers, many of which were abusive and based on misinformation. Porter noted that while glaciers naturally recede and grow over long periods, the current speed of change is unprecedented and alarming. “These things are supposed to happen over really long time periods,” he said. “What people should focus on is the speed of change.”

 

The photos shared by Duncan and Helen Porter serve as a powerful reminder of the urgent need to address climate change. As global temperatures continue to rise, the rapid melting of glaciers like the Rhône Glacier highlights the pressing need for collective action to protect our planet for future generations.

 

Credit: The Guardian  2024-08-08

 

 

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[hotchilli]

Go for a nice walk instead... 

[digger70]

Heartbreaking Photos Reveal Melting Swiss Glaciers: A 15-Year Comparison 

 

Nice , Was that by chance a Winter Pic and a Summer Pic 15 yrs  Later?  What about scare mongering hey.

Just look at the Real change in the  Cold/hot world.  

https://museum.wales/articles/1036/When-Antarctica-went-into-the-deep-freeze/#:~:text=Antarctica hasn't always been,the Eocene and Oligocene epochs.

 

[JonnyF]

12 hours ago, Social Media said:

A small pool at the bottom of the glacier, barely visible in 2009, has transformed into a vast green lake by 2024.

 

Great news for fish. 

 

12 hours ago, Social Media said:

 

 

 

Porter shared the emotional impact of witnessing this drastic change, stating, “Not gonna lie, it made me cry,” in a post on the social media platform X.

 

He's a poet who don't know it.

 

The only thing heartbreaking is a middle aged man posting "Not gonna lie" on X. Speak like an adult for gods sake, you're not a teenager.

[kwonitoy]

Happening all over the world.

This is Jasper National Park in Alberta, the glacier has been retreating since the first European explores came across in in the 1850's for whatever that's worth.

As a boy in the 60's we could park in the car park and walk on the glacier

Now you have to take a offroad bus several kilometers to get to Athabasca glacier

As it's gotten smaller in mass the retreat has accelerated

 

[Roo Island]

Sad some deny climate change caused by humans. I'm guessing all they do is read dodgy media outlets rather than travel around the world

[Roo Island]

1 hour ago, kwonitoy said:

Happening all over the world.

This is Jasper National Park in Alberta, the glacier has been retreating since the first European explores came across in in the 1850's for whatever that's worth.

As a boy in the 60's we could park in the car park and walk on the glacier

Now you have to take a offroad bus several kilometers to get to Athabasca glacier

As it's gotten smaller in mass the retreat has accelerated

 

We've seen the same in many places around the world. From the far south of Southern America to new Zealand  to Europe. Crazy times. And Crazy people who try to deny what's happening

[KhunLA]

8 hours ago, Roo Island said:

We've seen the same in many places around the world. From the far south of Southern America to new Zealand  to Europe. Crazy times. And Crazy people who try to deny what's happening

Overall glacier mass is shrinking.   The balance sheet isn't as bad as the alarmist want you to think.

 

Some glaciers are actually gaining mass, but that doesn't fit the spin.  An example, a few glaciers in the Karakoram mountain range along the India-China-Pakistan border are gaining mass.

 

It's called climate change for a reason.  Accurate info about glacier and ice sheets is very limited, as only done the last 30 ish years.

 

You also won't hear about the glaciers in S. America, as don't fit the spin either.

 

A lot more research needed there.

Edited August 9 by KhunLA

[JCauto]

18 hours ago, digger70 said:

Heartbreaking Photos Reveal Melting Swiss Glaciers: A 15-Year Comparison 

 

Nice , Was that by chance a Winter Pic and a Summer Pic 15 yrs  Later?  What about scare mongering hey.

 

Do you even comprehend how dumb a comment this is?

 

Glaciers don't shrink and expand like you are imagining; they're enormous and would hardly change at all due to the seasons. They're formed by accumulation of snow and ice over centuries, and the only thing that causes them to change like this is long-term climate change. Plus, any observer could see that the travelers pictured are wearing t-shirts and shorts in BOTH photos. 

Humanity is lost when this kind of stupidity becomes the norm.

[RocketDog]

On 8/9/2024 at 9:22 AM, KhunLA said:

Overall glacier mass is shrinking.   The balance sheet isn't as bad as the alarmist want you to think.

 

Some glaciers are actually gaining mass, but that doesn't fit the spin.  An example, a few glaciers in the Karakoram mountain range along the India-China-Pakistan border are gaining mass.

 

It's called climate change for a reason.  Accurate info about glacier and ice sheets is very limited, as only done the last 30 ish years.

 

You also won't hear about the glaciers in S. America, as don't fit the spin either.

 

A lot more research needed there.

I agree. Your deep thoughts on the subject are persuasive. We should wait until the problem becomes grossly obvious before we take any action at all beyond yammering about it.

 

I propose that we wait until the 'balance sheet' is gushing red and then have prolonged discussions about how to turn it around after, of course,we spend a few (more) decades doing 'research'.

 

Besides that, I'm 74 and don't give a hoot about how subsequent generations may suffer for my procrastination. I and my generation have already taken the big sweet juicy bite out of the apple and don't give a damn about the worms anymore. I won't even think about it until it's extremely clear that we are in very deep sh*t.

 

Makes sense to me. No?

Edited August 11 by RocketDog

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, RocketDog said:

I agree. Your deep thoughts on the subject are persuasive. We should wait until the problem becomes grossly obvious before we take any action at all beyond yammering about it.

 

I propose that we wait until the 'balance sheet' is gushing red and then have prolonged discussions about how to turn it around after, of course,we spend a few (more) decades doing 'research'.

 

Besides that, I'm 74 and don't give a hoot about how subsequent generations may suffer for my procrastination. I and my generation have already taken the big sweet juicy bite out of the apple and don't give a damn about the worms anymore. I won't even think about it until it's extremely clear that we are in very deep sh*t.

 

Makes sense to me. No?

You can't change the climate, or stop the climate.  MMCC is a marketing tool for businesses for profits, and govt for tax revenue.  

 

Human impact of the climate is so minute, it's not worth mentioning.  None of the science is based on facts IMHO, just a bunch of paid scientist/lobbyist for the bottom line.

[Celsius]

oh no that's awful what a shame I will be voting Kamala

[Yellowtail]

8 minutes ago, Celsius said:

oh no that's awful what a shame I will be voting Kamala

Yeah, she said she will stop this kind of thing. 

[JeffersLos]

Good.

 

Lazy glaciers. 1cm per year. Get a move on already.

 

Good riddance to them. 

[rickudon]

Sorry deniers, Most glaciers are retreating - 85% of Arctic glaciers are retreating. Mid-latitude mountain ranges are showing some of the largest proportionate glacial losses. Examples for such mountain ranges are the Himalayas in Asia, Rocky Mountains in North America, the Alps in Europe, the Cascade Range in North America, Southern Alps in New Zealand, the southern Andes in South America, as well as isolated tropical summits such as Mount Kilimanjaro in Africa. Those that are not are probably due to increased snowfall.

And yes, it is due to climate change. You may argue that the human impact is small, it is not. Plenty of evidence. On the other hand,  pretty close to zero evidence for other causes. It is not all CO2, but also other emissions from Industry (or lack of, the reduction in smoke and SO2 has resulted in warming, still due to us humans).

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retreat_of_glaciers_since_1850

Edited August 11 by rickudon
link added.

[MicroB]

On 8/8/2024 at 4:19 PM, digger70 said:

Heartbreaking Photos Reveal Melting Swiss Glaciers: A 15-Year Comparison 

 

Nice , Was that by chance a Winter Pic and a Summer Pic 15 yrs  Later?  What about scare mongering hey.

Just look at the Real change in the  Cold/hot world.  

https://museum.wales/articles/1036/When-Antarctica-went-into-the-deep-freeze/#:~:text=Antarctica hasn't always been,the Eocene and Oligocene epochs.

 

I'm assuming from your user name you are not from Europe, and probably don't really understand that Winters in Europe can be quite cold, hence your assumption that t-shirts only are often worn a European winter.

 

Some reading for you

 

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Matteo-Mattavelli-2/publication/295918492_Develpment_of_a_Glaciological_Spatial_Data_Infrastructure_to_assess_glaciers_response_to_climatic_fluctuations/links/56d0816d08ae4d8d64a38fc0/Develpment-of-a-Glaciological-Spatial-Data-Infrastructure-to-assess-glaciers-response-to-climatic-fluctuations.pdf?origin=publication_detail&_tp=eyJjb250ZXh0Ijp7ImZpcnN0UGFnZSI6Il9kaXJlY3QiLCJwYWdlIjoicHVibGljYXRpb25Eb3dubG9hZCIsInByZXZpb3VzUGFnZSI6InB1YmxpY2F0aW9uIn19

 

 

[still kicking]

On 8/9/2024 at 2:22 AM, Roo Island said:

We've seen the same in many places around the world. From the far south of Southern America to new Zealand  to Europe. Crazy times. And Crazy people who try to deny what's happening

They reckon the Great Barrier Reef will disappear in about 30 years due to warming ocean 

[placeholder]

On 8/9/2024 at 9:22 AM, KhunLA said:

Overall glacier mass is shrinking.   The balance sheet isn't as bad as the alarmist want you to think.

 

Some glaciers are actually gaining mass, but that doesn't fit the spin.  An example, a few glaciers in the Karakoram mountain range along the India-China-Pakistan border are gaining mass.

 

It's called climate change for a reason.  Accurate info about glacier and ice sheets is very limited, as only done the last 30 ish years.

 

You also won't hear about the glaciers in S. America, as don't fit the spin either.

 

A lot more research needed there.

About South America. First of all, the link is to Patagonia. Patagonia does not encompass all of South America. In fact, only the southern portion of the Andes is located in South America. In addition, the glaciers in Patagonia are shrinking. And they are nowhere nearly as large as the glaciers in Greenland and Antarctica

This is from the article you linked to:

Apart from in Patagonia, speeds like this are only known to be reached by the glaciers of Greenland and Antarctica—far and away the largest in the world.

"According to studies conducted by Matthias Braun from the Institute of Geography at FAU, climate change means, on average, the ice in the glaciers in the Patagonian icefields is becoming one meter less thick every year. This is ice loss at a record-breaking scale and another good reason for keeping a close eye on the Patagonian icefields and using cutting-edge scientific methods to survey them."

https://phys.org/news/2024-03-icefields-south-america-larger-glaciers.html

 

As for spin. The only spinning going on is yours.

"Compared to the great ice sheets of Antarctica and Greenland, mountain glaciers make up a small fraction of global ice volume. The figure is less than 1%: if they all vanished the resulting amount of global sea level rise would be around 0.32 metres. Of much greater importance is their role as freshwater storage reservoirs and their potential loss represents a serious threat to countries where this water supply is regarded as vital."

https://skepticalscience.com/himalayan-glaciers-growing.htm

 

[placeholder]

10 hours ago, KhunLA said:

You can't change the climate, or stop the climate.  MMCC is a marketing tool for businesses for profits, and govt for tax revenue.  

 

Human impact of the climate is so minute, it's not worth mentioning.  None of the science is based on facts IMHO, just a bunch of paid scientist/lobbyist for the bottom line.

Thank you for offering virtually no scientific sources to back up your assertions. 

[KhunLA]

Thanks, as always, you're entertaining 

[Rimmer]

A baiting troll post has been removed

[Captain Monday]

On 8/8/2024 at 6:19 PM, digger70 said:

Heartbreaking Photos Reveal Melting Swiss Glaciers: A 15-Year Comparison 

 

Nice , Was that by chance a Winter Pic and a Summer Pic 15 yrs  Later?  What about scare mongering hey.

Just look at the Real change in the  Cold/hot world.  

https://museum.wales/articles/1036/When-Antarctica-went-into-the-deep-freeze/#:~:text=Antarctica hasn't always been,the Eocene and Oligocene epochs.

 

Don’t you think it is duplicitous to link THAT article to a topic regarding anthropogenic climate disruption or are you really so uninformed ? 

 

 

[CallumWK]

22 hours ago, RocketDog said:

I agree. Your deep thoughts on the subject are persuasive. We should wait until the problem becomes grossly obvious before we take any action at all beyond yammering about it.

 

I propose that we wait until the 'balance sheet' is gushing red and then have prolonged discussions about how to turn it around after, of course,we spend a few (more) decades doing 'research'.

 

 

Please enlighten us all how you would turn it around.

 

More taxes?

More funding for a select few ultrarich climate change propagandists who fly around the world in their fuel guzzling private jets, preaching what others should do?

[Yellowtail]

4 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

 

Please enlighten us all how you would turn it around.

 

More taxes?

More funding for a select few ultrarich climate change propagandists who fly around the world in their fuel guzzling private jets, preaching what others should do?

What're you, a denier? The only way to save the world is to vote for leftists, and DO NOT ask them how, they care about the Earth, that's how! 

[Fat is a type of crazy]

9 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

What're you, a denier? The only way to save the world is to vote for leftists, and DO NOT ask them how, they care about the Earth, that's how! 

Better to vote Trump - they'll laugh at concerns and do nothing -  start by denying climate change - then say it's real but a natural variation and not man made and no big deal - then say it is man made but no big deal - then it could be a big deal but we have to adapt - meanwhile scientists look for real solutions. Have to be careful how money is spent but money needs to be spent in my humblest of opinions. 

[Yellowtail]

5 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Better to vote Trump - they'll laugh at concerns and do nothing -  start by denying climate change - then say it's real but a natural variation and not man made and no big deal - then say it is man made but no big deal - then it could be a big deal but we have to adapt - meanwhile scientists look for real solutions. Have to be careful how money is spent but money needs to be spent in my humblest of opinions. 

Real solutions like what? 

[placeholder]

25 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

 

Please enlighten us all how you would turn it around.

 

More taxes?

More funding for a select few ultrarich climate change propagandists who fly around the world in their fuel guzzling private jets, preaching what others should do?

The turning around is already underway.

Global spending on clean energy technologies and infrastructure on track to hit $2 trillion in 2024 even as higher financing costs hinder new projects, notably in emerging and developing economies

Despite pressures on financing, global investment in clean energy is set to reach almost double the amount going to fossil fuels in 2024, helped by improving supply chains and lower costs for clean technologies, according to a new IEA report.

Total energy investment worldwide is expected to exceed $3 trillion in 2024 for the first time, with some $2 trillion set to go toward clean technologies – including renewables, electric vehicles, nuclear power, grids, storage, low-emissions fuels, efficiency improvements and heat pumps – according to the latest edition of the IEA’s annual World Energy Investment report.

https://www.iea.org/news/investment-in-clean-energy-this-year-is-set-to-be-twice-the-amount-going-to-fossil-fuels

 

Giant batteries drain economics of gas power plants

iant batteries that ensure stable power supply by offsetting intermittent renewable supplies are becoming cheap enough to make developers abandon scores of projects for gas-fired generation world-wide.
The long-term economics of gas-fired plants, used in Europe and some parts of the United States primarily to compensate for the intermittent nature of wind and solar power, are changing quickly, according to Reuters' interviews with more than a dozen power plant developers, project finance bankers, analysts and consultants.

They said some battery operators are already supplying back-up power to grids at a price competitive with gas power plants, meaning gas will be used less.

https://archive.ph/PXJL3

 

And even cheaper batteries are about to go into production:

 

Energy project to use batteries made in West Virginia

Construction of the factory has been “substantially completed,” and the company is in the process of “ramping up its manufacturing workforce, ahead of starting high-volume production later this year,” according Jaramillo.

https://www.wvnews.com/news/wvnews/energy-project-to-use-batteries-made-in-west-virginia/article_be5c0a0e-559a-11ef-9d69-2fb32b22b9bc.html

 

FYI Jaramillo was formerly the head of battery production at Tesla.

 

Iron-air batteries: long-duration grid storage targets 1/10th the cost of lithium-ion

The target price tag of $20/kWh (one-tenth the cost of lithium-ion battery storage) can allow wind and solar to deliver firm, stable power cost-competitively with existing fossil generation. Last year, Form Energy (the company commercialising the innovation) took an order from Georgia Power in the U.S. for a 15-megawatt/1,500-megawatt-hour system, and is building a new commercial-scale battery manufacturing facility in West Virginia. Such solutions are essential to the clean energy transition. Halber points at studies that predict that up to 140 TWh of grid storage will be needed globally by 2040.

https://energypost.eu/iron-air-batteries-long-duration-grid-storage-targets-1-10th-the-cost-of-lithium-ion/

 

And this is just one technology. There are lots of others coming online.

 

 

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

The turning around is already underway.

Global spending on clean energy technologies and infrastructure on track to hit $2 trillion in 2024 even as higher financing costs hinder new projects, notably in emerging and developing economies

Despite pressures on financing, global investment in clean energy is set to reach almost double the amount going to fossil fuels in 2024, helped by improving supply chains and lower costs for clean technologies, according to a new IEA report.

Total energy investment worldwide is expected to exceed $3 trillion in 2024 for the first time, with some $2 trillion set to go toward clean technologies – including renewables, electric vehicles, nuclear power, grids, storage, low-emissions fuels, efficiency improvements and heat pumps – according to the latest edition of the IEA’s annual World Energy Investment report.

https://www.iea.org/news/investment-in-clean-energy-this-year-is-set-to-be-twice-the-amount-going-to-fossil-fuels

 

Giant batteries drain economics of gas power plants

iant batteries that ensure stable power supply by offsetting intermittent renewable supplies are becoming cheap enough to make developers abandon scores of projects for gas-fired generation world-wide.
The long-term economics of gas-fired plants, used in Europe and some parts of the United States primarily to compensate for the intermittent nature of wind and solar power, are changing quickly, according to Reuters' interviews with more than a dozen power plant developers, project finance bankers, analysts and consultants.

They said some battery operators are already supplying back-up power to grids at a price competitive with gas power plants, meaning gas will be used less.

https://archive.ph/PXJL3

 

And even cheaper batteries are about to go into production:

 

Energy project to use batteries made in West Virginia

Construction of the factory has been “substantially completed,” and the company is in the process of “ramping up its manufacturing workforce, ahead of starting high-volume production later this year,” according Jaramillo.

https://www.wvnews.com/news/wvnews/energy-project-to-use-batteries-made-in-west-virginia/article_be5c0a0e-559a-11ef-9d69-2fb32b22b9bc.html

 

FYI Jaramillo was formerly the head of battery production at Tesla.

 

Iron-air batteries: long-duration grid storage targets 1/10th the cost of lithium-ion

The target price tag of $20/kWh (one-tenth the cost of lithium-ion battery storage) can allow wind and solar to deliver firm, stable power cost-competitively with existing fossil generation. Last year, Form Energy (the company commercialising the innovation) took an order from Georgia Power in the U.S. for a 15-megawatt/1,500-megawatt-hour system, and is building a new commercial-scale battery manufacturing facility in West Virginia. Such solutions are essential to the clean energy transition. Halber points at studies that predict that up to 140 TWh of grid storage will be needed globally by 2040.

https://energypost.eu/iron-air-batteries-long-duration-grid-storage-targets-1-10th-the-cost-of-lithium-ion/

 

And this is just one technology. There are lots of others coming online.

 

 

Only if you measure "the turning around" in money spent and elections. If you measure it in greenhouse gas emissions, not so much. More this year than last, and more next year than this. 

 

 

[CallumWK]

6 minutes ago, placeholder said:

The turning around is already underway.

Global spending on clean energy technologies and infrastructure on track to hit $2 trillion in 2024 even as higher financing costs hinder new projects, notably in emerging and developing economies

Despite pressures on financing, global investment in clean energy is set to reach almost double the amount going to fossil fuels in 2024, helped by improving supply chains and lower costs for clean technologies, according to a new IEA report.

Total energy investment worldwide is expected to exceed $3 trillion in 2024 for the first time, with some $2 trillion set to go toward clean technologies – including renewables, electric vehicles, nuclear power, grids, storage, low-emissions fuels, efficiency improvements and heat pumps – according to the latest edition of the IEA’s annual World Energy Investment report.

https://www.iea.org/news/investment-in-clean-energy-this-year-is-set-to-be-twice-the-amount-going-to-fossil-fuels

 

Giant batteries drain economics of gas power plants

iant batteries that ensure stable power supply by offsetting intermittent renewable supplies are becoming cheap enough to make developers abandon scores of projects for gas-fired generation world-wide.
The long-term economics of gas-fired plants, used in Europe and some parts of the United States primarily to compensate for the intermittent nature of wind and solar power, are changing quickly, according to Reuters' interviews with more than a dozen power plant developers, project finance bankers, analysts and consultants.

They said some battery operators are already supplying back-up power to grids at a price competitive with gas power plants, meaning gas will be used less.

https://archive.ph/PXJL3

 

And even cheaper batteries are about to go into production:

 

Energy project to use batteries made in West Virginia

Construction of the factory has been “substantially completed,” and the company is in the process of “ramping up its manufacturing workforce, ahead of starting high-volume production later this year,” according Jaramillo.

https://www.wvnews.com/news/wvnews/energy-project-to-use-batteries-made-in-west-virginia/article_be5c0a0e-559a-11ef-9d69-2fb32b22b9bc.html

 

FYI Jaramillo was formerly the head of battery production at Tesla.

 

Iron-air batteries: long-duration grid storage targets 1/10th the cost of lithium-ion

The target price tag of $20/kWh (one-tenth the cost of lithium-ion battery storage) can allow wind and solar to deliver firm, stable power cost-competitively with existing fossil generation. Last year, Form Energy (the company commercialising the innovation) took an order from Georgia Power in the U.S. for a 15-megawatt/1,500-megawatt-hour system, and is building a new commercial-scale battery manufacturing facility in West Virginia. Such solutions are essential to the clean energy transition. Halber points at studies that predict that up to 140 TWh of grid storage will be needed globally by 2040.

https://energypost.eu/iron-air-batteries-long-duration-grid-storage-targets-1-10th-the-cost-of-lithium-ion/

 

And this is just one technology. There are lots of others coming online.

 

 

 

Which turn around is already underway?

 

All that is visible from your posts is that the increased spending is already underway

[Fat is a type of crazy]

19 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Real solutions like what? 

Let the scientist work it out. Have a bit of faith. I remember reading Freakonomics where they used the fact that volcano's cooled the earth so suggested pumping sulphur into the atmosphere. No need to be super idealistic - there is likely someone smart out there who can make a good case for funding - ignoring it is not a solution.