https://www.medscape.com/s/viewarticle/regularly-drinking-alcohol-after-60-linked-early-death-2024a1000f1i

 

In this latest study, researchers in Spain analyzed health data for more than 135,000 people, all of whom were at least 60 years old, lived in the United Kingdom, and provided their health information to the UK Biobank database. The average age of people at the start of the analysis period was 64.

The researchers compared 12 years of health outcomes for occasional drinkers to those who averaged drinking at least some alcohol on a daily basis. The greatest health risks were seen between occasional drinkers and those whom the researchers labeled "high risk." Occasional drinkers had less than about two drinks per week. The high-risk group included men who averaged nearly three drinks per day or more, and women who averaged about a drink and a half per day or more. The analysis showed that compared to occasional drinking, high-risk drinking was linked to:

A 33% increased risk of early death
A 39% increased risk of dying from cancer
A 21% increased risk of dying from problems with the heart and blood vessels
More moderate drinking habits were also linked to an increased risk of early death and dying from cancer, and even just averaging about one drink or less daily was associated with an 11% higher risk of dying from cancer. Low and moderate drinkers were most at-risk if they also had health problems or experienced socioeconomic factors like living in less affluent neighborhoods.
 

 

What is better: drinking, having fun and dying?

Or no drinking, no fun, and living unhappy for a long time?

 

I know it's not exactly like above. But there are lots of people who have a strict diet, don't drink, do this and don't do that who are unhappy. What's the point? 

6 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

What is better: drinking, having fun and dying?

Or no drinking, no fun, and living unhappy for a long time?

 

I know it's not exactly like above. But there are lots of people who have a strict diet, don't drink, do this and don't do that who are unhappy. What's the point? 

So in your mind you have to drink to have fun? Maybe (probably) a toke would do the same. 

so does that mean I don't have much time left  ? 

 

 

19 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Or no drinking, no fun, and living unhappy for a long time?

Why do you equate all three?

What about you guys in your 60's and 70's that used to drink a lot 

 

What symptoms or illness do you have caused by past or drinking now?

Fatigue? Hangovers ? Liver ?

2 hours ago, gargamon said:

So in your mind you have to drink to have fun? Maybe (probably) a toke would do the same. 

Not necessary

 

But IMHO people who drink are most of the time more fun compared to others who would never do that.

Smoking was similar. Many years ago, when I was young, there often groups of smokers and non-smokers. I never smoked, but I spend most of my time with the smokers, they were more fun to be around. 

1 hour ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

Why do you equate all three?

I think it is called life experience. 

2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

What is better: drinking, having fun and dying?

Or no drinking, no fun, and living unhappy for a long time?

 

I know it's not exactly like above. But there are lots of people who have a strict diet, don't drink, do this and don't do that who are unhappy. What's the point? 

Yep, you might not live to be 100 but it may well seem like it.

Regularly Drinking Alcohol After 60 Linked to Early Death

 

Gamma?

 

Guess what? Doing anything regularly, or not at all, will be linked to one's death because we will all definitely do it. There's no choice. One could abstain in the hopes of extending their time, only to get mowed down by a bus. Best do things in moderation methinks and don't sweat statistics like this. I would certainly rather enjoy myself at the risk of shortening my time than eke out a staid existence to possibly prolong it.

Nowhere near 60 anyway, so I'm alright Jack. 😀

It seems it is one more time for this one:

 

Jack Nightingale in Stephen Leather’s Nightmare

Nightingale blew smoke up at the sky. ‘Everybody dies,’ he said. ‘Life is a zero sum game. The best you can do is to enjoy yourself as you go along.’

‘But smoking shortens your life.’

‘Maybe. But it only takes the years from the end of your life. Not the beginning or the middle.’

Jenny looked at him, confused. ‘I have absolutely no idea what you mean.’

Nightingale took another drag on his cigarette before continuing. ‘Say I live until I’m seventy-five without smoking. And say I die at seventy if I do smoke. I lose five years. But really, Jenny, what am I going to be doing during those five years? Sitting in a bedsit somewhere watching the football, assuming I’ve enough of a pension to be able to afford Sky Sport?

2 hours ago, daveAustin said:

Regularly Drinking Alcohol After 60 Linked to Early Death

 

Gamma?

 

Guess what? Doing anything regularly, or not at all, will be linked to one's death because we will all definitely do it. There's no choice. One could abstain in the hopes of extending their time, only to get mowed down by a bus. Best do things in moderation methinks and don't sweat statistics like this. I would certainly rather enjoy myself at the risk of shortening my time than eke out a staid existence to possibly prolong it.

Nowhere near 60 anyway, so I'm alright Jack. 😀

Nowhere near 60?

I pity you son ,all those future years of slaving away .

I love you mate , I really do

In my opinion, the report cited in the OP is totally useless.

 

"Drink" is not a standard unit of measurement for alcohol consumption, neither in Spain nor in the United Kingdom. Fot this reason, the report is meaningless and of no use whatsoever.

 

8 hours ago, gargamon said:

https://www.medscape.com/s/viewarticle/regularly-drinking-alcohol-after-60-linked-early-death-2024a1000f1i

 

In this latest study, researchers in Spain analyzed health data for more than 135,000 people, all of whom were at least 60 years old, lived in the United Kingdom, and provided their health information to the UK Biobank database. The average age of people at the start of the analysis period was 64.

The researchers compared 12 years of health outcomes for occasional drinkers to those who averaged drinking at least some alcohol on a daily basis. The greatest health risks were seen between occasional drinkers and those whom the researchers labeled "high risk." Occasional drinkers had less than about two drinks per week. The high-risk group included men who averaged nearly three drinks per day or more, and women who averaged about a drink and a half per day or more. The analysis showed that compared to occasional drinking, high-risk drinking was linked to:

A 33% increased risk of early death
A 39% increased risk of dying from cancer
A 21% increased risk of dying from problems with the heart and blood vessels
More moderate drinking habits were also linked to an increased risk of early death and dying from cancer, and even just averaging about one drink or less daily was associated with an 11% higher risk of dying from cancer. Low and moderate drinkers were most at-risk if they also had health problems or experienced socioeconomic factors like living in less affluent neighborhoods.
 

 

I agree with you. Hardly drink.

7 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

What is better: drinking, having fun and dying?

Or no drinking, no fun, and living unhappy for a long time?

 

I know it's not exactly like above. But there are lots of people who have a strict diet, don't drink, do this and don't do that who are unhappy. What's the point? 

Do what you enjoy. Only drink if you enjoy it. 

12 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Nowhere near 60?

I pity you son ,all those future years of slaving away .

I love you mate , I really do

Nope. Semi retired early 30s so ain't doing too bad. 😉

1 hour ago, daveAustin said:

Nope. Semi retired early 30s so ain't doing too bad. 😉

Disability pension is great if you can get it 

Bad back ?? Can't work ?

 

And there nothing wrong with that !

 

I remember about 10 years ago Australia changed its disability pension laws that anyone overseas cannot get it unless they are deemed permanent disabled which sent a lot of expats back to Australia who had "bad backs ' 

Nah  good on ya mate 👍

Regular drinking alcohol as a teenager and beyond linked to death.   I know more people that died from their relationship with alcohol than anything else.  Most didn't make 25 yrs old.

Drinking over 60 is unlikely to lead to an Early Death.  Imminent Death - maybe.   I would reckon Just In Time, or Better Sooner Than Later.

 

A lot of people suffer an extended old age, but Alzheimer’s absolves a few from the suffering.

I stopped drinking any alcohol about 2 years ago after my liver blood tested was high ALT

 

Now I never drink 

I go for full blood tests every 2 weeks just to keep on top of any illness 

For some dying after 60 is a late death.  Therefore drinking after 60 makes no difference to them. 

 

Me I'm in my 60s and do as I please. Statistics be fakd. 

 

Live life as you wish. 

On 8/22/2024 at 4:01 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

What is better: drinking, having fun and dying?

Or no drinking, no fun, and living unhappy for a long time?

 

I know it's not exactly like above. But there are lots of people who have a strict diet, don't drink, do this and don't do that who are unhappy. What's the point? 

Not afraid of dying early, Im afraid of bad health and living to long.

On 8/22/2024 at 4:01 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

What is better: drinking, having fun and dying?

Or no drinking, no fun, and living unhappy for a long time?

 

I know it's not exactly like above. But there are lots of people who have a strict diet, don't drink, do this and don't do that who are unhappy. What's the point? 

I have to add, going to gym, go fishing and other activities gives more stable mood than drink alcohol with alot of sugar to feel happy for a short time. Never seen an alchoholic who drinks every day being happy, unless he is on his first or second unit. 

 

 

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

I stopped drinking any alcohol about 2 years ago after my liver blood tested was high ALT

 

Now I never drink 

I go for full blood tests every 2 weeks just to keep on top of any illness 

What a drag it is getting old. (Rolling Stones, Mothers Little Helper)

I have drunk regularly since I started my band at 15 years old. Turned Pro at 22 and did the US bases in Germany for 8 years, loads of weed, beer and J'meister, up to Scandie where I had to cut down a bit because of all the ladies who needed seeing to, then on the cruises for a good few. Then a few years in Spain for Thomson Gold followed by 7 years in Pattaya.

Am 76 now, good health, never ever been in a gym since Grammar School days. Make my own vino here and have a few beers whenever City are playing.

If I go tomorrow I shall die happy. Oh no wait, got my annual blood test on Wednesday!

18 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I have to add, going to gym, go fishing and other activities gives more stable mood than drink alcohol with alot of sugar to feel happy for a short time. Never seen an alchoholic who drinks every day being happy, unless he is on his first or second unit. 

Doing anything excessive is obviously not a good idea.

On the other hand, trying to like super healthy all the time and at the same time craving to eat or drink something not so healthy sounds also bad to me.

It reminds me of birthday parties of my late grandmother. All the fat old women were looking at the cake and: No, we should not eat this, this is not healthy... 

On 8/24/2024 at 8:39 PM, StreetCowboy said:

Drinking over 60 is unlikely to lead to an Early Death.  Imminent Death - maybe.   I would reckon Just In Time, or Better Sooner Than Later.

 

A lot of people suffer an extended old age, but Alzheimer’s absolves a few from the suffering.

 

sorry,  i'll just get my glasses ... just a second while I put my teeth back in .....   now '    what was it we were taking about   ?     hang on I'll just turn on my hearing aid ......

 

now  '  what was it all about then ..    ??  

I drink regularly but have some rules in place, I don't drink every night, usually have 2 nights off/1 night on. Rarely ever start before 6pm. Don't drink any cheap nasty stuff like Thai whisky or the cheapo beers, and I limit myself to a couple big bottles and a can, any more than that and I feel it the next day. I'm in my 70s now and drank more in the past, but now drinking in moderation. I regularly have blood test and my results are always good, but if I ever got back bad liver results I'd quit drinking.

7 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Doing anything excessive is obviously not a good idea.

On the other hand, trying to like super healthy all the time and at the same time craving to eat or drink something not so healthy sounds also bad to me.

It reminds me of birthday parties of my late grandmother. All the fat old women were looking at the cake and: No, we should not eat this, this is not healthy... 

Sounds like after the horse has bolted! 

 

Regret.... Oh how hindsight works. 

14 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Doing anything excessive is obviously not a good idea.

On the other hand, trying to like super healthy all the time and at the same time craving to eat or drink something not so healthy sounds also bad to me.

It reminds me of birthday parties of my late grandmother. All the fat old women were looking at the cake and: No, we should not eat this, this is not healthy... 

The good news, when you first get in to it, you are not craving anything. Healthy clean food taste better than junk food when in that roll.

 

Im more a wine drinker, and it is great to enjoy 2-3 glasses and still get the light buzz going, but more than that, I get hangover easily.