Trump Harris: Who won the debate ?

[Eric Loh]

4 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Root cause of illegal migrants pouring over the border was her party not releasing funds in time for Trump to finish the wall, then doing nothing to stop them for 3 years. What did she actually find out then as the root cause and what was done to stop them?

I thought Mexico will pay for the wall. So she not the border czar as the Maga folks tried to frame her. As for her success, you can goggle. She did scored on big money support from the private sector to shore up investments for Central America. 

[frank83628]

55 minutes ago, Digitalbanana said:

If you are going to use Sky News Australia, the most obscenely biased news station on the planet, to get your POV across you've already lost the argument.

as opposed to all the left bias news links provided by others?

[Will B Good]

3 minutes ago, placeholder said:

see you're ignoring the fact that that Trump fanboys predicted that Trump was going to destroy Harris in the debate. Did that happen? 

 

You saved me the effort.....just about to post that...shame I'm too lazy to trawl back through the thread to find their posts...555

[brianthainess]

Sorry I haven't read all posts as I'm watching it now I'm 37min in, and Trump just said "Immigrants eat dog, cats, and other pets." and previous to that, on abortions they will let it go full term and then murder it when it's born..............he is Mucking Fental

Edited September 12 by brianthainess

[impulse]

45 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Is saying Democrats support abortions after birth consistent with what you have put above? No facts or context. Fact check is reasonable I think. 

 

If you pass a law that allows viable (if not full term) fetuses to be aborted, and then don't protect the infants who survive the abortion once they're born, are you not allowing abortions after birth?  That's what my link showed.  It has happened.

 

But the most egregious violation by the moderator is making that hit and run statement just before muting Trump's mic.  I thought it was up to the candidates to support their position, not the moderators.  Looked more like a 3 on one tag team than a fair debate.

 

[LosLobo]

3 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

susan is a troll whose only objective is to have you waste your time. I wouldn't bother, the meticulous facts you posted are wasted on susan.

I just noticed that, seems to be a bot who suddenly emerged three weeks ago with no genuine purpose except for the sole reason of trolling for Trump.

[frank83628]

 

43 minutes ago, maesariang said:

4 days practising the script.

with a whole team behind her, making sure  she got it right

 

[frank83628]

46 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

The moderators are certainly smarter than you. She had a narrow mission on the border to find out the root cause of the migration. He role was a diplomat role. She was not the border czar. 

then why did all the msm call her that?

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, frank83628 said:

 

with a whole team behind her, making sure  she got it right

 

 

 

 

Being professional and prepping for a presidential debate....that has got to be tantamount to cheating surely?

 

 

 

[marin]

Just now, frank83628 said:

47 minutes ago, maesariang said:

4 days practising the script.

with a whole team behind her, making sure  she got it right

 

Why do you two like to show off your stupidity. Both camps had debate prep. Bad news for you is that like always Trump was a poop learner. Kamala tore him to shreds, the only people denying it are the hard core Kool Aid drinkers. 

 

It has to do with brains and preparation.  🙃

[frank83628]

41 minutes ago, marin said:

https://gandernewsroom.com/2024/09/11/13-trump-lies-debate/

 

13 wildest lies Trump told in the debate with Kamala Harris

yawn, a Trump bashing load of nonsense. where are the fact check for Harris? 

[placeholder]

27 minutes ago, marin said:

From a leading Republican pollster, he has been quoted many times on here by the right wing posters.

 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/longtime-gop-pollster-frank-luntz-says-trumps-campaign-is-over-after-bad-debate?fbclid=IwY2xjawFPQWhleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHfhDx4yiLt5LxBFjIj1dLEau1T2Xz_g_k9uTRgwWQcuY6g1Fp3DNtkZMSA_aem_3Wy0EgPPlMi8_-PGLhGT

 

Longtime GOP Pollster Frank Luntz Says Trump’s Campaign Is Over After Bad Debate

 

KAPUT, COOKED, DONE FOR

“I’m trying to decide if I want to go on record, and the answer is yes,” Frank Luntz told Piers Morgan Wednesday. “I think that he loses because of this debate performance.”

As much as I might wish the debate would be decisive, I doubt it.

[Eric Loh]

3 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

then why did all the msm call her that?

MSM just reporting all those false claims by the GOP and his allies. 

[Will B Good]

4 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

yawn, a Trump bashing load of nonsense. where are the fact check for Harris? 

 

 

Did it not cross your mind that maybe....just maybe (and I know this will be hard to take in)......she didn't lie?

[LosLobo]

20 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

as opposed to all the left bias news links provided by others?

Sky Australia is another publication owned by Murdoch.

 

Didn't Murdoch admit in court that his journalists lie, then settle on a billion-dollar defamation lawsuit, with additional cases still pending?

 

Edited September 12 by LosLobo

[EVENKEEL]

37 minutes ago, Digitalbanana said:

The ABC moderators were normal people. They were simply reacting as any rational human being reacts after hearing some of the craziest nonsense they have ever heard. Its why one candidate got more push back from the moderators than the other. Anyone struggling to understand that obviously has issues of their own.

They're supposed to not take sides. Not so hard to understand.

[bubblegum]

14 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

 

with a whole team behind her, making sure  she got it right

 

Same advice as I gave to your friend Suzy: Read and think before posting. Saves you a lot embarrassments 

[bubblegum]

Just now, EVENKEEL said:

They're supposed to not take sides. Not so hard to understand.

They did not. Why is everything always rigged and bias with you lot. Cry babies

[Will B Good]

2 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

They did not. Why is everything always rigged and bias with you lot. Cry babies

 

So unfair.

 

Trump allies, by contrast, felt it was unfair the two ABC News anchors were permitted to fact check Trump, believing the former president was debating “three on one” – something Trump himself stated on Truth Social after the debate.

 

Since when were you not allowed to tell barefaced lies......what is the world coming to?

[Tug]

16 minutes ago, marin said:

Why do you two like to show off your stupidity. Both camps had debate prep. Bad news for you is that like always Trump was a poop learner. Kamala tore him to shreds, the only people denying it are the hard core Kool Aid drinkers. 

 

It has to do with brains and preparation.  🙃

Well to be fair trump is an easy target the worst president in the history of my country so as you can imagine there’s plenty of material + he’s mentally ill and in age related cognitive decline.

[placeholder]

7 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

They did not. Why is everything always rigged and bias with you lot. Cry babies

They're rehearsing in case the upcoming election doesn't go their way.

[earlinclaifornia]

1 hour ago, bubblegum said:

Trump fact checked on people eating pets in Ohio: " No you're wrong, I saw it on TV, there was this guy on TV" That guy was your pick for VP !

Made me laugh

[bubblegum]

Belief it or not, I found another think Trump said that I believe to be true: "I never read Project 2025" It has many, many, many words and big to. It has some of the biggest words you'll ever see and no pictures, no pictures at all.

 

Yeah I believe him.

[brianthainess]

He will stop the Russian Ukraine war in 24 hrs. before being elected........ Yep mental.

[Will B Good]

Just as you thought the Republicans had reached the bottom of the barrel.......... up steps Ted Cruz to show you he can go just a little bit deeper.

 

https://newrepublic.com/post/185742/ted-cruz-reminder-migrants-pets-conspiracy

 

 

 

Edited September 12 by Will B Good

[Will B Good]

5 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

He will stop the Russian Ukraine war in 24 hrs. before being elected........ Yep mental.

 

It seems like he might have a plan to bomb the Ukrainians into submission.

[maesariang]

1 hour ago, Digitalbanana said:

The ABC moderators were normal people. They were simply reacting as any rational human being reacts after hearing some of the craziest nonsense they have ever heard. Its why one candidate got more push back from the moderators than the other. Anyone struggling to understand that obviously has issues of their own.

 Democrat voters normal.

[maesariang]

19 minutes ago, Tug said:

Well to be fair trump is an easy target the worst president in the history of my country so as you can imagine there’s plenty of material + he’s mentally ill and in age related cognitive decline.

One of the best. 

[earlinclaifornia]

1 hour ago, marin said:

From a leading Republican pollster, he has been quoted many times on here by the right wing posters.

 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/longtime-gop-pollster-frank-luntz-says-trumps-campaign-is-over-after-bad-debate?fbclid=IwY2xjawFPQWhleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHfhDx4yiLt5LxBFjIj1dLEau1T2Xz_g_k9uTRgwWQcuY6g1Fp3DNtkZMSA_aem_3Wy0EgPPlMi8_-PGLhGT

 

Longtime GOP Pollster Frank Luntz Says Trump’s Campaign Is Over After Bad Debate

 

KAPUT, COOKED, DONE FOR

“I’m trying to decide if I want to go on record, and the answer is yes,” Frank Luntz told Piers Morgan Wednesday. “I think that he loses because of this debate performance.”

I might not like what he says always

 

he called this and he is correct

[NanLaew]

On 9/11/2024 at 10:58 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Expect nothing less from the BBC which is IMO biased when it comes to Trump, and IMO the above is wishful thinking, but certainly not true, IMO, as regards to putting him on the defensive, or favouring her.

 

My opinion on the debate, a draw. Trump stayed relatively sane, and Harris had nothing new to say. I doubt a single voter will change their mind on that one.

 

It was more like a boxing match during which neither boxer managed to get a good punch in, and ended in a draw.

 

I've said it before, but IMO the debates are a waste of time ( normally, though we probably watch them in hope of a Biden type crash and burn ), and we learn little if anything we don't already know. However, the advertisers will have minted it.

 

I guess you watched another debate.

 

On 9/11/2024 at 11:03 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO opinion it was as "contentious" as watching a cat sleeping. Boring more like. It was so gripping I didn't even bother watching and did something more useful, while just listening to it, just in case something did happen. Conversely, during the Biden debate I was virtually glued to the TV.

 

Oh, you only LISTENED to the debate. I see. I guess that after being glued to Biden's debate meltdown, you had an inkling that Trump would be up against some sterner stuff and you knew, deep down inside your misguided soul, that he didn't have a Scooby. Train wrecks aren't easy things to watch.

 

I only listened to it as well and I apparently missed Trump's tortured body language as Harris deftly picked on the things that matter to him, his narcissism, fragile ego and his propensity for talking nonsense.

 

Today, he's beating-off on Taylor Swift's endorsement of his opponent.