1 hour ago, RSD1 said:

he was also fact checked on the debate and it was determined that he lied over 30 times. 

Harris lied??

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

The tax is on consumers that pay for the tariffs, NOT the foreign entities as ignorant liar Trump asserts. Logically they decrease demand for anything artificially price raised that way as well. So they can be used for policy goals.

Your understanding of economics is only matched by your understanding of politics in USA.

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

 

How about debunking trump's lies and misinformation. As a first step why not start with  the "steal", it would provide insight if you are actually willing to engage honestly.

Done it already.  Name another one - lets go.

 

Meanwhile how about Charlottesville and Russiagate - what so you in response to my claim they were false claims made by Dems and pushed by the media - because 'orange mad bad'. 

 

He's authentic. He has Charisma. He has courage.

 

Far better than Harris.

2 hours ago, RSD1 said:

Triggered and obsessed. 

Again - no answer - feelings and personal insults is all they have. As I proved, Biden attacked MAGA people and it has been Dems policy ever since - mainly to justify their lies and tactics on the Jan6 kangaroo court disgrace.  The Dems are the dividers and baiters - and people like you are falling for their lies and deceit.

 

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Trump will not lie to get into office? He claimed he saved Obamacare. Now, if that's not a lie, then there is no such thing as truth.

He did. When it went to the Supreme Court and he won, it was clear doing what he wanted to do would cause more harm than good - so he backed down and did not completely shut it down.  In that sense he 'saved' it - maybe next time he will listen to those who said 'shut it all down anyway'. 

1 minute ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

feelings and personal insults is all they have.

have you heard trump speak recently? His attacks are entirely ad hominem. the man is unable to discuss policy. 

2 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

He has his flaws of that there is no denying - but the results speak for themselves - under Trump things were better and saner.

Under Biden/Harris the country has declined and it is getting worse  - the Dems are in 'election mode' and as you are saying they are hiding their true nature.  But if they are elected into Office they will go into 'power mode' again and implement more socialist left policies (especially the border and green BS).  Trump is open and direct - he is what he is - he will not lie to get into Office and then implement socialist dogma. Unlike most POTUS before him and since - when he was POTUS he did exactly what he said he was going to do - and he will do that again. 

He did nothing he promised except tax cuts for the rich and dismantling effective govt agencies and put buffoons in to run them. I'd love you to post some facts and links about what he did while in office. 

1 hour ago, Will B Good said:

Read all of that and had a little chuckle waiting to for the punchline........got right to the end and suddenly realised.....

.......this guy is serious.......🤭

I know you are not - about anything - but that is OK as Oscar said.

 

 

An artist you are indeed.

 

58 minutes ago, theshu25 said:

Your icon is no more then a village idiot that cant even tie up his own shoelaces. He is nothing but a grifting  conman scumbag mutt that is taking money of good people to pay his own bills.

Like I said - winner winner chicken dinner - they have a mental block problem that is unrecognised and therefore all they can do it throw personal insults and abuse.  Where is the intelligent and articulate argument?? 

6 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

I know you are not - about anything - but that is OK as Oscar said.

 

 

An artist you are indeed.

 

 

 

That has made my day.....thank you.

 

 

3 minutes ago, n00dle said:

have you heard trump speak recently? His attacks are entirely ad hominem. the man is unable to discuss policy. 

Yes indeed - he makes regualr comments about how idiotic the Dems policies are. Now he also often talks about how Harris refuses to have an unbiased debate with him.  he went in front of biased left wing moderators twice - once with Biden and now once with Harris. Why wont Harris accept Trump's request to debate on Fox or any other right wing media outlet??

 

Actually I will answer that for you - by quoting Harris' answer to "what are you actually going to do to reduce inflation. what exact things are you going to do?"  Answer - "I came from a middle class family ............. bla bla bla ....... word salad." 

Trump has stated exactly what he is going to do - check out the link I gave - just to start - bring back oil production on a massive scale, remove climate penalties and cancel greenie initiatives". Just for starters right there will make a huge difference because when Biden/Harris stopped oil production and imposed all the 'save the planet' taxes, they caused massive inflation. 

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

That has made my day.....thank you.

Cheers mate - have a beer on me mate. 

9 minutes ago, Dan O said:

He did nothing he promised except tax cuts for the rich and dismantling effective govt agencies and put buffoons in to run them. I'd love you to post some facts and links about what he did while in office. 

I was going to cut and paste them all, but the list is so long it would crash the server - take a look see:-

Trump Administration Accomplishments – The White House (archives.gov)

Next.

Just now, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Cheers mate - have a beer on me mate. 

 

 

Wow....you are on fire.

 

Just this minute, literally, received a proper British pub pint glass I ordered off Lazada and I am just about to try it out.....how amazing is that!!! 

16 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

He's authentic. He has Charisma. He has courage.

 

Far better than Harris.

So was Mussolini.

16 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

He did. When it went to the Supreme Court and he won, it was clear doing what he wanted to do would cause more harm than good - so he backed down and did not completely shut it down.  In that sense he 'saved' it - maybe next time he will listen to those who said 'shut it all down anyway'. 

What are you on about? The Supreme Court decided in June of 2012 it was constitutional. Are you aware that Barack Obama was President then?  After Trump took office he tried to destroy it. His bill to repeal it passed the House. He repeatedly insulted John McCain for voting against repeal. No wonder you think Trump is honest given your lack of grasp of the facts.

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

Wow....you are on fire.

Just this minute, literally, received a proper British pub pint glass I ordered off Lazada and I am just about to try it out.....how amazing is that!!! 

It is amazing what one can buy on Lazada - and with COD you have little risk.

Enjoy the beer mate - Corona or maybe Stalla Artois or is it a Guinness??

I have not had a Guinness in years - doubt I will find some up here in Isan - cant find Benedictine - been looking for over a year - next visit to Sister in Bangkok I guess.

 

 

2 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

I was going to cut and paste them all, but the list is so long it would crash the server - take a look see:-

Trump Administration Accomplishments – The White House (archives.gov)

Next.

All Trump boiler plate propaganda, most of which is selective editing facts. Almost every economic indicator he claimed has been surpassed since. We can't even list  left all his failures which are truly too many to list. Not to mention hold the guineas book of records for most lies told by 1 person. He also repeated multiple items calling them more or different accomplishments. Try posting  something real and not from him or his admin.

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

So was Mussolini.

Wow - unbelievable - you really hate the guy dont you??

Maybe you should just stay away from these posts - your blood pressure might be taking a hit me thinks. 

Just now, Dan O said:

All Trump boiler plate propaganda, most of which is selective editing facts. Almost every economic indicator he claimed has been surpassed since. We can't even list  left all his failures which are truly too many to list. Not to mention hold the guineas book of records for most lies told by 1 person. He also repeated multiple items calling them more or different accomplishments. Try posting  something real and not from him or his admin.

'something real' ROFLOLO  You mean Trump's 'PR stuff is false but the Dems/Harris PR is all true?? Or do you mean something from CNN ???   OK then - how about this??

New YorkCNN — 

Jamie Dimon has a warning for Democrats: Don’t dismiss Trump supporters as people who are exclusively attracted to his personality. Former President Donald Trump was right about some critical issues, the JPMorgan CEO says.

“I wish the Democrats would think a little more carefully when they talk about MAGA,” Dimon told CNBC on Wednesday from the World Economic Forum in Davos.

Dimon, who has clashed with Trump in the past and previously described himself as “barely a Democrat,” said that people are “basically scape-goating” Trump supporters. He said Democrats use the “MAGA” label to accuse Trump supporters of being like the former president instead of listening to their underlying concerns.

“I don’t think they are voting for Trump because of his family values,” Dimon said. “Just take a step back and be honest: He was kind of right about NATO. He was kind of right about immigration. He grew the economy quite well. Tax reform worked.”

Dimon went on to say Trump was also right about some his criticism of China.

Jamie Dimon: Trump was right about key issues and bashing MAGA will hurt Biden | CNN Business

 

KABOOM

Trump is rough and Harris is dodgy af.

Both candidates are terrible frankly.

19 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Like I said - winner winner chicken dinner - they have a mental block problem that is unrecognised and therefore all they can do it throw personal insults and abuse.  Where is the intelligent and articulate argument?? 

I think your actually referring to Trump's classic behavior but as a trumpette you have your blinders on. As my grandmother used to say you can't argue with stupid

Just now, ModdaPunk said:

Trump is rough and Harris is dodgy af.

Both candidates are terrible frankly.

At last - another rational point of view.  Yes they are both not the brightest and best - and both are 'flawed'.

But with only two to choose from - it is very clear to me Trump wins person on person.

But when it comes to Dems Vs GOP - the GOP wins by the proverbial country mile.

 

1 minute ago, Dan O said:

I think your actually referring to Trump's classic behavior but as a trumpette you have your blinders on. As my grandmother used to say you can't argue with stupid

Mine told me that too - and mine was better than yours - so there - LOL

 

Call me a 'trumpette' and you lose mate - try better. 

2 minutes ago, Dan O said:

I think your actually referring to Trump's classic behavior but as a trumpette you have your blinders on. As my grandmother used to say you can't argue with stupid

 

Stupidity (yours, or anyone else’s) is not a barrier to voting.

Breaking for late lunch - and some footy.

3 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

'something real' ROFLOLO  You mean Trump's 'PR stuff is false but the Dems/Harris PR is all true?? Or do you mean something from CNN ???   OK then - how about this??

New YorkCNN — 

Jamie Dimon has a warning for Democrats: Don’t dismiss Trump supporters as people who are exclusively attracted to his personality. Former President Donald Trump was right about some critical issues, the JPMorgan CEO says.

“I wish the Democrats would think a little more carefully when they talk about MAGA,” Dimon told CNBC on Wednesday from the World Economic Forum in Davos.

Dimon, who has clashed with Trump in the past and previously described himself as “barely a Democrat,” said that people are “basically scape-goating” Trump supporters. He said Democrats use the “MAGA” label to accuse Trump supporters of being like the former president instead of listening to their underlying concerns.

“I don’t think they are voting for Trump because of his family values,” Dimon said. “Just take a step back and be honest: He was kind of right about NATO. He was kind of right about immigration. He grew the economy quite well. Tax reform worked.”

Dimon went on to say Trump was also right about some his criticism of China.

Jamie Dimon: Trump was right about key issues and bashing MAGA will hurt Biden | CNN Business

 

KABOOM

Your taking Dimons discussion out of the context it was given. He was talking about republicans beliefs and values not Trump directly or his accomplishments. But you can't understand spatial thinking. I never said anything about Harris, her policies and who I back or endorse so wake you and stop being a sheep for Trump. Why are so many Republicans in office and trumps past wh staff and Advisors not backing him now?

17 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

So was Mussolini.

That's a good point.

 

But his hair was not as good.

5 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

At last - another rational point of view.  Yes they are both not the brightest and best - and both are 'flawed'.

But with only two to choose from - it is very clear to me Trump wins person on person.

But when it comes to Dems Vs GOP - the GOP wins by the proverbial country mile.

 

The GOP gave away their position in politics by backing the fraudster Trump just because they don't want to lose his following and try to stay in office not because they have better policies and better view points. They prostituted themselves clearly for the sake of "holding votes"