High BP, revisited.

[swissie]

Blood pressure, revisited.

Resting, my BP averages 130 to 85. Age 72. What is more relevant, higher or lower BP?

Took my BP measuring device with me yesterday. After walking 500 meters: 160 over 92. Resting, drinking a cup of coffee: 155 over 88.
Watching Donald Trump on TV the same evening: My BP readings went out of control.

I must conclude: Except for early morning readings, during the day, my BP is always too high. No matter what I do.

As a precautionary measure, I don't frequent GoGo Bars anymore, afraid that my BP readings would go thru the roof. Same as marathon runners after 40 Km's. Their reading would have to be astronomical, as opposed to the readings of "old gezzeres" where surpassing certain boundaries is qualified as "life threathening".

"Clogging up" on blood- pipelines are mentioned as part of the aging process. In other words, the medication that we take to avoid the "clogging-up" the blood pipelines are not working.

Once more: 70% of the day, my BP is too high. End of.

[stoner]

56 minutes ago, swissie said:

Watching Donald Trump on TV the same evening: My BP readings went out of control.

 

 

seems you have some internal issues you need to work on if the don is getting to you worked up like that.

 

take a deep breath it will be ok. turn off the tv for starters. 

[swissie]

1 hour ago, stoner said:

 

seems you have some internal issues you need to work on if the don is getting to you worked up like that.

 

take a deep breath it will be ok. turn off the tv for starters. 

We can go astray, but for a change, let's focus on the essential:

Except for early morning readings, during the day, my BP is always too high. No matter what I do. I should have died years ago.

[stoner]

14 minutes ago, swissie said:

We can go astray, but for a change, let's focus on the essential:

Except for early morning readings, during the day, my BP is always too high. No matter what I do. I should have died years ago.

 

I totally agree. let's focus on the issue and for once leave Trump out of it.

Edited September 21 by stoner

[Patong2021]

Two items need clarification.

1. For people age 65 and younger-  The old  guideline of 120/80 has been revised. BP should be lower than this. This is the top end of acceptable. 121/81 is elevated.

2. It is normal for the elderly to have a higher blood pressure. That doesn't mean it is desirable. but it is acceptable. In the USA, the revised acceptable  top limit for age 65+ is 130/80. Ideally it should be lower.

 

If someone age 65+ has elevated blood pressure aside from the heart and stroke risks, it can damage the kidneys. Aside from  staying hydrated, one really should see a physician and not second guess it here or hope for a miracle.

 

One caveat when measuring  BP at home: Sometimes the arm cuff is too tight or too small. This can inflate the reading.

 

See your primary care physician.

 

 

[scubascuba3]

 Caused by a poor diet and lack of exercise most likely

[Sheryl]

Are you taking BP medication? Msy need a dose adjustment. 

[BigStar]

14 hours ago, swissie said:

Once more: 70% of the day, my BP is too high. End of.

 

Not a worry, do nothing.@swissiehimself knows this but forgets sometimes I guess.

 

On 7/1/2021 at 11:50 PM, swissie said:

What to do? Best do nothing. When the final curtain falls, nobody at the entrance of "the pearly-gates" is likely to ask us of how many carrots or steaks we ate during our lifetime.

I myself believe, that upon my demise, nobody will ask me any questions anymore. I am very comfortable with this thought. With or without prior exercise.

[watchcat]

14 hours ago, swissie said:

Blood pressure, revisited.

Resting, my BP averages 130 to 85. Age 72. What is more relevant, higher or lower BP?

Took my BP measuring device with me yesterday. After walking 500 meters: 160 over 92. Resting, drinking a cup of coffee: 155 over 88.
Watching Donald Trump on TV the same evening: My BP readings went out of control.

I must conclude: Except for early morning readings, during the day, my BP is always too high. No matter what I do.

As a precautionary measure, I don't frequent GoGo Bars anymore, afraid that my BP readings would go thru the roof. Same as marathon runners after 40 Km's. Their reading would have to be astronomical, as opposed to the readings of "old gezzeres" where surpassing certain boundaries is qualified as "life threathening".

"Clogging up" on blood- pipelines are mentioned as part of the aging process. In other words, the medication that we take to avoid the "clogging-up" the blood pipelines are not working.

Once more: 70% of the day, my BP is too high. End of.

'If you drink alchol  wilst eating your tablets, the effect vill bi down.

 

 

 

[watchcat]

9 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

 Caused by a poor diet and lack of exercise most likely

 

Lack of exercise Yes but some people can't exercise for various reasons

[scubascuba3]

35 minutes ago, watchcat said:

 

Lack of exercise Yes but some people can't exercise for various reasons

Often caused by a poor diet to start with

[KhunLA]

As Sheryl ask, a bit more info would help.   But if at rest, that's a bit high, and lower # is usually a bit more important.  Is 135/88 he lowest it ever is ?

 

When active, yes, of course the upper # will increase, though lower shouldn't go up too crazy.

 

Are you on med ?  Statin only lowers your cholesterol, and a bit of controversy if that really matters as much.

 

If blood vessels are getting a bit restricted flow, blood thinner (aspirin) and or Calcium channel blockers (CCB), doing the obvious, keep calcium from build up, along with some flexibility and dilate the blood vessels, as they stiffen with age.  I take both; aspirin & Manidipine.

 

Vasodilators also dilate the blood vessels.  Not familiar with them myself.

 

Maybe go to a cardiologist, as the person to ask.  At 70+, a check up would never hurt.  We're not Docs and just speculating.

[Lacessit]

Regular exercise will help control BP. I have morning and afternoon routines I follow every day.

 

I do have a bit of pharmaceutical assistance, 25 mg of Losartan, 1.25 mg Concor ( beta blocker ) .

 

That is about minimum dose. My BP is averaging 115/60, my

heart rate is 55 bpm.

 

As others have said, see a cardiologist.

 

 

[swissie]

On 9/22/2024 at 7:20 AM, Sheryl said:

Are you taking BP medication? Msy need a dose adjustment. 

I am on medication. Will increase dosage a bit and see what happens.

 

PS: My lower BP is always above 80.

[Ralf001]

On 9/21/2024 at 11:19 PM, swissie said:

Watching Donald Trump on TV the same evening: My BP readings went out of control.

 

 

Next time you watching the Don, insert a finger or two into your anoos and check your BP.

[3NUMBAS]

The older you get the standard reading moves up a notch ,70s to 80s to 90s keeps moving up as a normal reading

[KhunLA]

7 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

The older you get the standard reading moves up a notch ,70s to 80s to 90s keeps moving up as a normal reading

Don't know where that tidbit is from, but I disagree.   Mine has moved down with adjusted diet, weight loss, the past decade, more so last 5 yrs, and just past year, with major adjustment.  Highs of about 145/95 at rest, in the past.

 

Now quite normal at rest 120/80 or lower (both #s) and knocking on 70 yrs old.   HR fairly constant 60+/- at rest, over the decades past & now.

[BigStar]

45 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

The older you get the standard reading moves up a notch ,70s to 80s to 90s keeps moving up as a normal reading

 

Averages do, reflecting more arteriosclerosis, no comfort there. The standard recommended ranges for all ages have moved down a notch.

 

 

In 2017, new guidelines from the American Heart Association, the American College of Cardiology, and nine other health organizations lowered the numbers for the diagnosis of hypertension (high blood pressure) to 130/80 millimeters of mercury (mm Hg) and higher for all adults. The previous guidelines set the threshold at 140/90 mm Hg for people younger than age 65 and 150/80 mm Hg for those ages 65 and older.

     --Reading the new blood pressure guidelines

 

In particular, older men should take note of this new health standard. The new guidelines state that 70% to 79% of men ages 55 and older are now classified with hypertension. Those who were previously considered healthy may now fall within the elevated categorization.

     --Updated Blood Pressure Recommendation for Senior Health Care

 

Fits, as only 12% in the USA are metabolically healthy.

 

Edited September 26 by BigStar

[swissie]

On 9/26/2024 at 9:47 AM, BigStar said:

 

Averages do, reflecting more arteriosclerosis, no comfort there. The standard recommended ranges for all ages have moved down a notch.

 

 

In 2017, new guidelines from the American Heart Association, the American College of Cardiology, and nine other health organizations lowered the numbers for the diagnosis of hypertension (high blood pressure) to 130/80 millimeters of mercury (mm Hg) and higher for all adults. The previous guidelines set the threshold at 140/90 mm Hg for people younger than age 65 and 150/80 mm Hg for those ages 65 and older.

     --Reading the new blood pressure guidelines

 

In particular, older men should take note of this new health standard. The new guidelines state that 70% to 79% of men ages 55 and older are now classified with hypertension. Those who were previously considered healthy may now fall within the elevated categorization.

     --Updated Blood Pressure Recommendation for Senior Health Care

 

Fits, as only 12% in the USA are metabolically healthy.

 

Every Pharma Company producing BP medication must be thrilled.

[BigStar]

11 hours ago, swissie said:

Every Pharma Company producing BP medication must be thrilled.

 

Be sure they don't profit off you. That'll show 'em.

[KhunLA]

Thought it would be a bit higher, as just got done doing the dishes.  Must be relaxing, looking out at the garden from the window above the sink.  Therapy ?

 

[cooked]

If you are sort of 80 years + or so, most doctors will be happy if they can reduce your BP to 140/. Not to say that that is desirable, but the side effects of BP lowering drugs at that age becomes important.

Questions asked should be: do you smoke, alcohol consumption, exercise, consumption of carbohydrates (which includes sugar and starch)...? Seed oils and ultra-processed foods also play a role. 

It's not just about living longer, it's about living a healthy life for as long as possible.