A vote for Trump is a vote for Putin / Orban / Kim Jong Un

[WDSmart]

A vote for Trump is a vote for Trump. Anyone doing that is a disgrace to my home country, the USA. I just can't understand why anyone would support Trump, but it seems as many as 40% or 45% of my fellow citizens do. I'm ashamed of that. 

[Lacessit]

2 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Yeah Lefties talk and then turn the communists loose to shoot. 

 

How is your freedom of speech down under? You already lost your right to bear arms, no wonder the vast majority of Aussies are groaning under your boot.

Wrong. Australians can own firearms, I used to own a couple myself until I moved to Thailand.

 

AFAIK we still have freedom of speech, there are remedies for defamation and hate speech.

 

The first sentence of your post makes no sense at all.

[mdr224]

Boy for a guy whose supposedly good for russia, the russians seem to wait until dems are in power to grab more land

[Thingamabob]

As a non-American I have no direct interest in the forthcoming election other than hoping that, whether Harris or Trump wins, the USA relationship with the UK will be friendly and firm.

[Yellowtail]

A vote for Harris is a vote for Harris. Anyone doing that is a disgrace to my home country, the USA. I just can't understand why anyone would support Harris, but it seems as many as 50% or 55% of my fellow citizens do. I'm ashamed of that. 

[frank83628]

9 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I do actually.

Nothing goes on Russian state tv without Kremlin approval.

Obviously not my only source.though.

then you would know that Putin never planned to take Kiev.

[frank83628]

6 hours ago, candide said:

And It's not like he invaded Ukraine from Belarus and tried to conquer Kiev -and failed miserably, BTW. 🤣

when did this happen?

 

[Yagoda]

18 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

A vote for Trump is a vote for Trump. Anyone doing that is a disgrace to my home country, the USA. I just can't understand why anyone would support Trump, but it seems as many as 40% or 45% of my fellow citizens do. I'm ashamed of that. 

Bet you take the benefits though...

[Yagoda]

16 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Wrong. Australians can own firearms, I used to own a couple myself until I moved to Thailand.

 

AFAIK we still have freedom of speech, there are remedies for defamation and hate speech.

 

The first sentence of your post makes no sense at all.

Yep. Go stand on a street corner and chant Men cant be Woman.

[frank83628]

2 hours ago, mdr224 said:

How come putin endorsed kamala then? Reverse psychology?

when was this?

[mdr224]

35 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

As a non-American I have no direct interest in the forthcoming election other than hoping that, whether Harris or Trump wins, the USA relationship with the UK will be friendly and firm.

The relationship with trump and europe will be good as long as europe elects leaders with some balls

Edited October 17 by mdr224

[mdr224]

1 minute ago, frank83628 said:

when was this?

Trump said it at a rally

[WDSmart]

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

22 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

A vote for Trump is a vote for Trump. Anyone doing that is a disgrace to my home country, the USA. I just can't understand why anyone would support Trump, but it seems as many as 40% or 45% of my fellow citizens do. I'm ashamed of that. 

Bet you take the benefits though...

What benefits? I consider Trump a total disaster. Another four years of Trump (or more, since if reelected, I'm sure he'll never allow himself to be removed as president) will completely destroy everything I respect about the USA. Of course, as I said above, his reelection would mean that a large number of voters (not the majority) have voted for him. That means that the USA has a large number of people who think like Trump or have been duped by Trump. Either way, it's a sad, sad situation and indicates that the USA has truly become a corrupt and morally depraved country. 😞 

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, Captain Monday said:

The entire world view of your average red state "right-winger" has evolved.

So it consists entirely now of nothing more than expertly curated Kremlin propaganda.

A nearly complete political transformation from previous generations.

 

This did NOT happen by accident.

 

yeah, it's always those Pesky Russian propagandist at the Kremlin, meddling with peoples minds.

as opposed to the fair, balanced and honest non propagandist US mainstream legacy media, the same media that is bought and paid for by the MIC, big Pharma and giant corporations.

[Yagoda]

15 minutes ago, mdr224 said:

The relationship with trump and europe will be good as long as europe elects leaders with balls

Yeah like Tusk and Orban, unlike the spineless fascist apparatchiks in Brussels.

[Yagoda]

10 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

What benefits? I consider Trump a total disaster. Another four years of Trump (or more, since if reelected, I'm sure he'll never allow himself to be removed as president) will completely destroy everything I respect about the USA. Of course, as I said above, his reelection would mean that a large number of voters (not the majority) have voted for him. That means that the USA has a large number of people who think like Trump or have been duped by Trump. Either way, it's a sad, sad situation and indicates that the USA has truly become a corrupt and morally depraved country. 😞 

Who appointed you the arbiter of corruption and moral depravity? Although reading Hunters laptop might be a good way to gain some insight.

[frank83628]

 

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

It is amusing how the left now hates Elon Musk and loves Dick Cheney. 

 

Jing and Dick, two peas in a pod...

yeah, one of the architects of the Illegal Iraq war and death of millions is now their new hero, they'll take in anyone that goes against Trump regardless of prior history.

[john donson]

15 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Americans have the right to do that (and vote for an American autocracy to replace American democracy) but I sure wish more of them would realize that's what they'd be doing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

what american democrazy ?

 

did people vote for harris ,to become a candidate? no

 

did people vote to send billions to ukraine ?  no

 

did people know congress gets rich with inside trading ? no

 

what democracy again ?

[frank83628]

58 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I wonder how many Trump supporters realize how they will be affected if he wins.

 

It's OK if you are rich. If you are not, as many devotees are, it's like chickens voting for a fox to run the hen house.

well the 'poor' as you'd like to call them certainly enjoyed cheap gas and cost of living, so i'm sure they will look forward to that again.

[WDSmart]

6 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Who appointed you the arbiter of corruption and moral depravity? Although reading Hunters laptop might be a good way to gain some insight.

I decide for myself what corruption and moral depravity are. Do you rely on someone else to decide that for you? 

What does Hunter's laptop have to do with Trump's corruption and moral depravity? If you're trying to insinuate that others besides Trump are corrupt, I won't dispute that, but that doesn't excuse Trump for being corrupt and morally depraved. 

[frank83628]

24 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

What benefits? I consider Trump a total disaster. Another four years of Trump (or more, since if reelected, I'm sure he'll never allow himself to be removed as president) will completely destroy everything I respect about the USA. Of course, as I said above, his reelection would mean that a large number of voters (not the majority) have voted for him. That means that the USA has a large number of people who think like Trump or have been duped by Trump. Either way, it's a sad, sad situation and indicates that the USA has truly become a corrupt and morally depraved country. 😞 

how exactly will Trump stay in power? he cannot just change the rules. so just how will he do it?

 

i think you'll find the corruption is being exposed because of Trump, look at all the media, elite dems, intelligence, high up politicians all desperately trying to stop him from ruining their corrupt gravy train!

Edited October 17 by frank83628

[retarius]

Stupid lie from the OP. Putin, Kim nor Orban are even on the ballot. How on earth can a vote for Trump be a vote for these great guys. And I I would take that trio over any 3 NATO  leaders, all of whom are retarded. 

[frank83628]

35 minutes ago, mdr224 said:

Trump said it at a rally

so, Putin didn't endorse Harris did he. 

[mdr224]

1 minute ago, frank83628 said:

so, Putin didn't endorse Harris did he. 

Wouldnt surprise me if he did. Look at how much hes accomplished with biden in charge

[Lacessit]

7 minutes ago, retarius said:

Stupid lie from the OP. Putin, Kim nor Orban are even on the ballot. How on earth can a vote for Trump be a vote for these great guys. And I I would take that trio over any 3 NATO  leaders, all of whom are retarded. 

If Harris wins, are you going to live in North Korea, Russia, or Hungary? Mind you, there may be a dearth of what you currently take for granted.

[Yagoda]

14 minutes ago, retarius said:

Stupid lie from the OP. Putin, Kim nor Orban are even on the ballot. How on earth can a vote for Trump be a vote for these great guys. And I I would take that trio over any 3 NATO  leaders, all of whom are retarded. 

Well thats a bit too much there fella, are you a Harris plant trying to make Trump look bad?

[WDSmart]

57 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Leftism is fascism and vice versa. Start a topic and Ill debate you all day long. Unless you are scared, Ive offered that before and get a lot of clucks in return.

 

Make it better: National Socialism is Leftist.

I vehemently disagree with you...

 

"Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy." Fascism - Wikipedia

"Nazism, formally National Socialism, is the far-right totalitarian socio-political ideology and practices associated with Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party (NSDAP) in Germany." Nazism - Wikipedia

"Socialism is an economic and political philosophy encompassing diverse economic and social systems, characterised by social ownership of the means of production, as opposed to private ownership. ...  As one of the main ideologies on the political spectrum, socialism is considered the standard left wing ideology in most countries of the world." Socialism - Wikipedia

 

I, personally, have a far-left-wing ideology and strongly support socialism as a goal for the economy of my home country, the USA. 

[Yagoda]

Just now, WDSmart said:

I vehemently disagree with you...

 

"Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy." Fascism - Wikipedia

"Nazism, formally National Socialism, is the far-right totalitarian socio-political ideology and practices associated with Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party (NSDAP) in Germany." Nazism - Wikipedia

"Socialism is an economic and political philosophy encompassing diverse economic and social systems, characterised by social ownership of the means of production, as opposed to private ownership. ...  As one of the main ideologies on the political spectrum, socialism is considered the standard left wing ideology in most countries of the world." Socialism - Wikipedia

 

I, personally, have a far-left-wing ideology and strongly support socialism as a goal for the economy of my home country, the USA. 

Start a topic then. But here is a hint for you: Wikpedia is not a source in an intellectual discussion. This isnt high school, unless you are still there?

[Yellowtail]

It does not surprise me that socialists hate Trump and love Harris. 

[WDSmart]

20 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

how exactly will Trump stay in power? he cannot just change the rules. so just how will he do it?

 

i think you'll find the corruption is being exposed because of Trump, look at all the media, elite dems, intelligence, high up politicians all desperately trying to stop him from ruining their corrupt gravy train!

Trump will at least TRY to stay in power by changing the rules. The way he changes the rules would be, of course, illegal, but he might do something like declare that the election process in the USA was corrupt and declare a national emergency, which would give him, as president, emergency powers, one of which, he could claim, was to postpone the elections. The only glimmer of hope we would have then is that Trump would be in his mid-80s by then, overweight, etc., so he should not have a long time left.

I agree with your list of corrupt institutions, but I strongly believe everything would just be worse if Trump were reelected. He would just work to increase the corruption for his own interests.