US Visa for Thai Citizen - Do they have an Undisclosed Quota.

[hotandsticky]

2 hours ago, Celsius said:

 

I thought it was your "friend's" partner.

 

If you are lying on applications like you are lying on forums then perhaps start from there as why the visa was denied.

 

 

 

The applicant us not my partner; I was referencing the fact I am unmarried, I fully financially support her. My income and assets are in the UK and she has assets if 10m+ Baht in Thailand......and she has multiple visas.

[hotandsticky]

1 hour ago, Phillip9 said:

 

You said previously it was your friend's partner and she had only been to 4 countries.....

 

This guy is just another troll making stuff up.  

 

This thread should be closed.

 

You would like to think that but the Mods know differently.

 

Read my previous post and improve your comprehension.

[Presnock]

On 10/18/2024 at 3:18 PM, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

It has always been difficult for single women to obtain a visa to visit the US.

 

Not having significant formal employment works against her. Her partner's UK bank balance doesn't evidence strong ties to Thailand.

 

She might have a better chance of success if she were able to demonstrate that her partner has been in Thailand for a number of years and either owns a company or has a good job. In such a case, being legally  married to her partner would probably help.

 

Good luck.

My 48 year old WIFE, house owner, fairly new auto owner, wanted to take our daughter back to the US for college (already accepted) but the consulate too indicated that she really had no reason to return to Thailand as she didn't have a job.  I have been in Thailand since my retirement 20 years ago.  Therefore, daughter is a sophomore at Chulalongkorn University in Bangkok.  US consular folks are a strange group for sure.  Meanwhile, at that same time they recommended filing for a green card - which we did - guess  the timing with Afghan evacuation - therefore over 500K backlog in immigration - they were at that time only being able to process 35K  a month. Yessir, took them over a year to approve MY WIFE! while they let in millions of illegal and foreign legal  immigrants who plan on staying there!

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

1 hour ago, Presnock said:

My 48 year old WIFE, house owner, fairly new auto owner, wanted to take our daughter back to the US for college (already accepted) but the consulate too indicated that she really had no reason to return to Thailand as she didn't have a job.  I have been in Thailand since my retirement 20 years ago.  Therefore, daughter is a sophomore at Chulalongkorn University in Bangkok.  US consular folks are a strange group for sure.  Meanwhile, at that same time they recommended filing for a green card - which we did - guess  the timing with Afghan evacuation - therefore over 500K backlog in immigration - they were at that time only being able to process 35K  a month. Yessir, took them over a year to approve MY WIFE! while they let in millions of illegal and foreign legal  immigrants who plan on staying there!

 

Six years ago, my wife was able to obtain a visa in order to accompany our eldest daughter to the US to start university. The consular official asked about my length of stay and employment in Thailand and to see my passport. She did not have my passport with her, but apparently they were satisfied with her answers and approved her application.

 

About twenty years earlier, before we were married, she was able to get a visa to visit the US. I provided a letter on company letterhead (US multinational) stating that I would ensure her return and I also provided a letter from the executive director of one of the foreign chambers of commerce stating that I was a member and asking for "due consideration" for her application.  Without this, I don't think they would have given a twenty-something single Thai female the time of day. 

[Presnock]

On 10/18/2024 at 6:39 PM, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

 

It may not seem very fair, but that's how US visa issuance works.

 

Significant employment in Thailand or business ownership are factors that indicate a likelihood to return. This applies to the applicant and spouse/partner if there is one, especially if the spouse/partner isn't Thai.

If there had not been so many people that obtained a visa to visit the US and then failed to return this wouldn't happen.  It has happened in many other countries too, once in the US there is no immigration checking to see where they are as is a must here.  That is why there are so many illegal immigrants flooding the US as they know they might never get caught.  Just saying.  That they need local employment or ownership as stated here is usually the key answers for a successful visa.

[hotandsticky]

7 hours ago, Presnock said:

My 48 year old WIFE, house owner, fairly new auto owner, wanted to take our daughter back to the US for college (already accepted) but the consulate too indicated that she really had no reason to return to Thailand as she didn't have a job.  I have been in Thailand since my retirement 20 years ago.  Therefore, daughter is a sophomore at Chulalongkorn University in Bangkok.  US consular folks are a strange group for sure.  Meanwhile, at that same time they recommended filing for a green card - which we did - guess  the timing with Afghan evacuation - therefore over 500K backlog in immigration - they were at that time only being able to process 35K  a month. Yessir, took them over a year to approve MY WIFE! while they let in millions of illegal and foreign legal  immigrants who plan on staying there!

 

Absolutely disgraceful.

 

 

[theoldgit]

13 hours ago, Presnock said:

If there had not been so many people that obtained a visa to visit the US and then failed to return this wouldn't happen.  It has happened in many other countries too, once in the US there is no immigration checking to see where they are as is a must here.  That is why there are so many illegal immigrants flooding the US as they know they might never get caught.  Just saying.  That they need local employment or ownership as stated here is usually the key answers for a successful visa.

The last figures l’ve read from Homeland Security indicated that less than 1.5% of those entering the US using a Visa or under the VWP fail to leave on the first or subsequent visits, l accept with the numbers visiting that is a lot, but is it excessive, l don’t know.

 

The ICE staff l’ve had contact with over the years have told me that there is indeed checking, enforcement and detention of Immigration Offenders, with a lot of offenders being removed, l will concede that it’s been a few years since I’ve been in regular contact, but I’d be surprised if there were no checks carried out now.

[Phillip9]

6 hours ago, theoldgit said:

The last figures l’ve read from Homeland Security indicated that less than 1.5% of those entering the US using a Visa or under the VWP fail to leave

 

Keep in mind that is with the currrent strict requirements to visas.  I'm sure if they issued visas to unemployed single women like the OP's friend, the percentage that didn't leave would be much higher.

 

[Presnock]

15 hours ago, hotandsticky said:

 

Absolutely disgraceful.

 

 

But daughter is doing exceptional in the #1 University in Thailand.  During last year's term break, she went to the #1 University in Korea to study more Korean language.  was the only classmate to get an Academic achievement award for over 90%  grade (94).  She then did the same during the summer break and has already registered for the upcoming mid-term break.  Since she i getting a liberal arts degree and then a Masters', doesn't need the super expensive US degree.   IMHO anyway.  Upon finishing, if she so wishes she could easily get a job with the US govt with 4 languages.  i.e. two years ago, the US state dept could only fill about 25% of their foreign-language billets.  Too many Americans just don't like to study foreign languages.

[cjinchiangrai]

The part that nobody will say out loud is that they have a lot of racist pricks at the consulate that assume every Thai woman is an ex-bargirl trying to get out of Thailand. They ignore clear evidence to support their own prejudice.

[Captain Monday]

On 10/18/2024 at 4:14 AM, hotandsticky said:

 

Nonsense .

 

She couldn't have stronger ties to Thailand - and if there were sufficient reasons to return to satisfy UKVI then it should be good enough for the Yanks 

 

As it happens she hates America (no justifiable reason) abd they are only going for a week for a relatives wedding anniversary in Las Vegas. She can't wait to get back to the fields of Isaan.

 

 

Took one Thai friend 3 times over some years to get a tourist visa to go to USA.  Hawaii. With her golf happy Korean husband. He took herto Saipan a few times without visa Resident in Korea, full time job there. There is a bit of an age difference and attractive, but no kids. Seems they have plenty of money.

 

When she finally got to Honolulu she was separated from him and in the grilling rooms warned to not "run away". I have heard worse stories.

 

The  ICE officers at US airports are the worst I have ever dealt with and I am a US citizen. 

 

They treat female solo travellers, appallingly, even if they come from visa exempt/ESTA countries. 

Edited October 23 by Captain Monday

[hotandsticky]

1 hour ago, Phillip9 said:

 

Keep in mind that is with the currrent strict requirements to visas.  I'm sure if they issued visas to unemployed single women like the OP's friend, the percentage that didn't leave would be much higher.

 

 

I understand what you say but I don't think there is evidence to support that 

 

I just don't like unfairness. This is unfair. They are a stable, financially secure, mature couple with a track record of adherence to visa/entry requirements.

 

 

[hotandsticky]

There have been many informative posts (some less so) on this thread which I hope will serve to guide those thinking of taking their partners to the USA.

 

Frankly, it is an appalling, discriminatory process with a ridiculously long waiting period for an appointment. 

 

For those who thought I was trolling .....get a life!