I’ve just bet $500 with Australia’s TAB on a Harris win, odds of 2.4 were too good to pass up. Would be almost worth losing $500 to enjoy seeing the woke leftists having conniptions after a Trump victory though. However, talk of Trump withdrawing support for Ukraine and threatening a tariff war would be enough to make me an extremely reluctant supporter of Harris, though I think both candidates are frightful.

My bookmakers are still forecasting a Trump win. This was not their position immediately after Harris was nominated when odds for Trump were 2 to 3-1 against. Bookies are not always right, of course, but they usually are otherwise they wouldn't be in business.

On 10/20/2024 at 6:00 PM, xylophone said:

You will be shocked to learn that "All of the Chapter 11 bankruptcies by Trump’s businesses were submitted via a prepackaged bankruptcy, in which a deal had been reached with the creditors before filing. "

 

So they were bankruptcies whichever way one looks at them........irrespective of the "prepackaged bankrupty" title you put on them?? So successful businessman trump cannot successfully run a company?  

 

And for the record..............

Trump and his foundation were forced to admit their fraud.

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/trump-admits-misusing-charity-funds-settles-lawsuit-against-trump-foundation-that-he-said-he-wouldnt-settle/Donald J. Trump Pays Court-Ordered $2 Million for Illegally Using Trump Foundation Funds 

 

Trump Ordered to Pay Eight Separate Charities $250,000 Each

 

https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2019/donald-j-trump-pays-court-ordered-2-million-illegally-using-trump-foundation (notice the term "illegally").

 

Trump University (also known as the Trump Wealth Institute and Trump Entrepreneur Initiative LLC) was an American company that ran a real estate training program from 2005 until 2010. It was owned and operated by The Trump Organization. Despite its name, the organization was not an accredited university or college. In 2011, the company became the subject of an inquiry by the New York Attorney General's office for illegal business practices which resulted in a lawsuit filed in August 2013.^[6] An article in the National Review described the organization as a "massive scam". (Surely not by honest Don trump??).

 

In November 2016, Trump agreed to settle a series of lawsuits related to the school for $25 million.

 

The Four Bankruptcies which resulted in tradesmen losing money/not being paid millions owed..

The Undocumented Polish Workers …. In 1991, a federal judge found Trump and other defendants guilty of conspiring to avoid paying union pension and welfare contributions for the workers. Trump eventually settled out of court, paying an undisclosed sum.

But the facts of the case were never in question: Trump’s company really did hire undocumented immigrants to build the Trump Tower. He merely argued he wasn’t aware of it, and it wasn’t his fault — even after a court ruled against him.

 

There is a long list in…..

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/donald-trump-scandals/474726/

The guy is a liar and a crook, proven time and time again.

 

TRUMP HAS FILED FOR SIX BUSINESS BANKRUPTCIES and has had many failed businesses:-

The Trump Taj Mahal in 1991 

Trump Castle Hotel & Casino in 1992 and Trump Plaza Casino 1992

Trump Plaza Hotel 1992 

Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts in 2004

Trump Entertainment Resorts in 2009

 

Not forgetting many other failed businesses…..

Trumped!, Trump Steaks, Trump Network, GoTrump, Tour de Trump, Trump Airlines,
7. Trump Vodka, The New Jersey Generals, Trump Mortgage, Trump: The Game, Trump Magazine, Trump Ice and not forgetting Trump University!

 

What more proof do you need that he is a thief and a conman, and not a very bright businessman (and a rapist).

 

OOPS. Forgot to add proof that he is smart........

 

Well explained Xylophone but I'm afraid that your succinctly sourced evidence is wasted on MAGA morons.

Its like blowing in the wind......

15 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

First you complain about the lack of links.

 

 

I never said anything about links.

 

Reading comprehension is a vanishing skill.

 

 

12 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Dropping tax rates 2% for someone making $12,000, and 2% for a billionaire are not the same.

 

It's called equal protection under the law. Progressive taxation is equity, NOT equality.

 

And a 2% tax on $12,000 and 2% on a billionaire are not the same either. 😎

Delusional Trumpsters grasping at invisible straws is hilarious. 

6 minutes ago, Talon said:

 

I never said anything about links.

 

Reading comprehension is a vanishing skill.

 

 

And yet, you posted this:

 

However, you never brought anything to back up your claim about this:

4. What you said in this post is NOT what you said in the post that I called nonsense.

"screwing millions from employees, contractors, and banks" Got any sources for this claim?

3 minutes ago, Talon said:

 

It's called equal protection under the law. Progressive taxation is equity, NOT equality.

 

And a 2% tax on $12,000 and 2% on a billionaire are not the same either. 😎

Yeah, you hate progressive taxation because you love billionaires.

8 hours ago, xylophone said:

 if anyone were to sue trump in a court of law, with trump's lawyers and his "heavyweights", they would get nowhere, or indeed they would have to settle for a few cents in the dollar, as has often been the situation in cases like this. 

 

In fact it more often than not it costs the plaintiff more than they've actually invested or can reclaim, 

 

So it must've not been a solid case. Oh well.

 

Kiinda like all the Leftist claims about election fraud not gaining any traction.  Leftists always want it both ways.

12 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Dropping tax rates 2% for someone making $12,000, and 2% for a billionaire are not the same.

 

2% is 2%

 

But you are right, they are not the same,  the billionaire pays more.

7 hours ago, Inderpland said:

So, it fits ALL the check boxes for the very definition of an insurrection....but isn't an insurrection. Oooookay!👍

 

But no one was charged with insurrection. Not one charge.

3 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

 

2% is 2%

 

But you are right, they are not the same,  the billionaire pays more.

 

You get it.

3 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

 

2% is 2%

 

But you are right, they are not the same,  the billionaire pays more.

Is that a problem for you? Or do you think that taxes on billionaires should be reduced?

5 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

And yet, you posted this:

 

However, you never brought anything to back up your claim about this:

4. What you said in this post is NOT what you said in the post that I called nonsense.

"screwing millions from employees, contractors, and banks" Got any sources for this claim?

 

And yet, I still don't see anything about LINKS. 

2 minutes ago, Skeptic7 said:

Delusional Trumpsters grasping at invisible straws is hilarious. 

Nah , we got the shakers & the movers on our side .

Wall Street &  religious supporters ,who were just mocked & malign by harris at her rally.

1 minute ago, Talon said:

 

But no one was charged with insurrection. Not one charge.

What the prosecutors chose to call the charges doesn't matter, it's like saying you're not a murderer because you were convicted of homicide.

1 minute ago, Talon said:

 

And yet, I still don't see anything about LINKS. 

Err... Asking for sources = "got any links".

 

 

Just now, Danderman123 said:

What the prosecutors chose to call the charges doesn't matter, it's like saying you're not a murderer because you were convicted of homicide.

 

 

Leftists always ignore the law. I'm not surprised.

 

The lying-a55 Leftist Thug Media is not the law; and they struggle mightily with definitions. They are the Democrat newsletters in America.

7 hours ago, G_Money said:

Still not getting it are you?  Wasn’t an insurrection.  Only in your mind and those on the lunatic left.

 

Call it what is was.  A protest that may of gotten out of hand, but no insurrection 

 

I guess the laws are different in your country.

 

A mob trying to stop a government process is not just an out of control protest.

1 minute ago, Talon said:

 

Leftists always ignore the law. I'm not surprised.

 

The lying-a55 Leftist Thug Media is not the law; and they struggle mightily with definitions. They are the Democrat newsletters in America.

Welcome back, Susanlea.

 

How long until this username gets banned?

 

Aren't the politics in your country interesting enough for you to stay out of US politics?

2 hours ago, riclag said:

The old saying is if you repeat it over and over it will be believable.

 

 

Obviously you don't realise that is the modus operandi of both Trump and Vance.

 

Vance has admitted he made the pet-eating story up.

15 minutes ago, riclag said:

Nah , we got the shakers & the movers on our side .

Wall Street &  religious supporters ,who were just mocked & malign by harris at her rally.

The support of a felon and sexual predator by religious groups deserves to be maligned. Rank hypocrites.

it's a no brainer.

Sorry for the Harris supporters on this forum  but she really has blown her chance. 

Trump a winner on immigration, foreign policy, the economy and putting America first. 

9 minutes ago, riclag said:

Nah , we got the shakers & the movers on our side .

Wall Street &  religious supporters ,who were just mocked & malign by harris at her rally.

Well I love Wall Street and LOATHE religion, which deserves ridicule and malignment. 2 more weeks and confident yo hypocritical boy will spend the rest of his days doing "perp walks" in multiple states. And hoping that his final days expire with him behind bars. 

32 minutes ago, jippytum said:

it's a no brainer.

Sorry for the Harris supporters on this forum  but she really has blown her chance. 

Trump a winner on immigration, foreign policy, the economy and putting America first. 

Trump a winner on the economy?

 

Harris will increase the national debt by $1.2 trillion, Trump by $5.8 trillion. You have weird ideas about winning.

 

Trump will put Trump first.

1 hour ago, Talon said:

 

And yet, I still don't see anything about LINKS. 

Sources and links are the same thing.

 

You're the one saying reading comprehension is a vanishing skill?

trump will give big tax breaks to his friends to pay for sponsoring his election

 

maybe stop the useless ukraine money drain

 

border wall? sending back illegals ?  crime ?

On 10/20/2024 at 4:37 PM, Talon said:

 

1. Trump didn't file any personal bankruptcies. Those were companies operating under the Trump name.

2. Misappropriation isn't stealing. I have received bad legal advice from an attorney regarding an inheritance and used funds that I shouldn't have, but I wasn't stealing. My attorney told me that the funds were mine to spend. The funds were easily replaced in the estate when the use of the funds was challenged (And I wasn't accused of stealing the funds because my last name isn't Trump). Trump didn't run the charities, but he was responsible for how they operated.

 

3. Letitia James: the Queen of GET TRUMP lawfare

 

4. What you said in this post is NOT what you said in the post that I called nonsense.

"screwing millions from employees, contractors, and banks" Got any sources for this claim?

 

5. You are unaware of Trump's past tax proposal and tariffs; and you don't understand his current tax proposal and tariffs.

 

Read about the COMPANIES under the Trump name that filed Chapter 11 Reorganization:

President Trump's Bankruptcies: Just the Facts

 

You will be shocked to learn that "All of the Chapter 11 bankruptcies by Trump’s businesses were submitted via a prepackaged bankruptcy, in which a deal had been reached with the creditors before filing. "

 

 

Non Americans don't really care about Trump's business empire or any of his financial or other misdemeanours especially those pursued by the Democrats favourite weapon of 'lawfare', most people don't really care about the 'locker room' talk and supposed claims of his misogyny or racism - all they know is that the world was a lot safer and people had a lot more hope during the Trump Presidency and they fear what further damage four more years of Obama/Harris mismanagement would bring    

10 minutes ago, HK MacPhooey said:

Non Americans don't really care about Trump's business empire or any of his financial or other misdemeanours especially those pursued by the Democrats favourite weapon of 'lawfare', most people don't really care about the 'locker room' talk and supposed claims of his misogyny or racism - all they know is that the world was a lot safer and people had a lot more hope during the Trump Presidency and they fear what further damage four more years of Obama/Harris mismanagement would bring    

Better stop talking about the opinions of others.

1 hour ago, jippytum said:

it's a no brainer.

Sorry for the Harris supporters on this forum  but she really has blown her chance. 

Trump a winner on immigration, foreign policy, the economy and putting America first. 

A fact free post. How useful.

 

Here's some data for you, actual votes cast. Perhaps you haven't been sent any talking points about early votes yet:

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/early-vote