Something smelling musky -- the age of undemocratic in your face oligarchy in the USA.

[Jingthing]

26 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

No.

 

I haven't been paying attention ?

 

You're the one who was dead wrong. Bigly wrong in fact. So if you had been paying attention and not been so locked into your worldview you would of seen the freight train coming. 

 

It's fear mongering because it's all unfounded left wing talking points. The precise ones that lost you the election.

 

But here you are digging in. 

Got it.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion but I can't ascribe any credibility to not seeing Trump as an authoritarian style leader. It's like what planet are you from.

Saying that, I will now disengage as I find it a waste of time talking to people clearly not grounded in reality.

[HappyExpat57]

It's clear major change was needed. The Democratic message that really frosted me was "The economy is fine. What's the matter with YOU?" Corporate greed ran rampant - hell, they even BRAGGED about it. Instead of using pressure to stop corporate price gouging, the Biden administration tried that old tactic of giving the people a few crumbs before the election in the hope to win them over. Not so different from Musk offering that million dollar offer to buy votes.

 

Obviously that didn't work and we now have the only alternative that was available. This will prove disasterous. The choices for the new cabinet belong on an Onion website as ridiculous as they are. The incoming regime will destroy the gubmint and rebuild it in a White Christian Nationalist vision. That's what the majority of the voters asked for, let's see how happy they are when reality sets in.

[kevozman1]

19 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Trump won because the middle class, black Americans, Latinos, Asians, women, Arabs, Muslims, Jews, white America. the working class etc. voted for him more than Harris. 

 

I barely follow the charade that is politics, and even I know what you just stated is incorrect just by having a brief glance of how various demographics voted.

 

Anyway I just keep an eye out until people in the West are ready to reject Modern Liberalism. Sadly I think I will be an old man before that ideology is given the boot once people have had enough and would prefer to live in the forest. Make no mistake about it, whatever actor is pretending to run the show, Western countries have been highly liberal for decades, about as liberal as a society can be before it crumbles. Promotion of the weak over the majority productive populace: LGBT, feminists, soy boys, Sub Saharans, fringe group minorities and other assorted weirdos who will not breed are highlighted as the winners when it's the complete opposite. It also plays a victim/victimizer paradigm that is nothing short of a work of fiction. It does make me laugh when liberals who have had the ideology they want in the West for decades still complain and move to more right wing places such as Thailand, or areas of their own country that hasn't been ruined by this destructive ideology. 

[dinsdale]

31 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

You see what you had to do there? You had to qualify your big win with "barring the deep blue states". Now, if one of them had been flipped, then THAT would have made the win epically landslidey.

 

Bigly even.

New York 2020

New York 2024

I did say previous to the election NY would see a swing to Trump. 

Trump made a 5 percent gain in Manhattan, 6 percent in Brooklyn, 11 percent in both the Bronx and Queens, and 8 percent on already Republican-leaning Staten Island.

https://www.newsweek.com/news-york-city-map-results-swing-republican-1982887

 

[blaze master]

24 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Got it.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion but I can't ascribe any credibility to not seeing Trump as an authoritarian style leader. It's like what planet are you from.

Saying that, I will now disengage as I find it a waste of time talking to people clearly not grounded in reality.

 

What planet am I on ? Grounded in reality ?

 

Any little credibility you had has vanished. That's not opinion it's fact. Based on your previous year or so of postings being so dead wrong. 

 

But I'll go back to my bizzaro reality while you wallow here in the real world. 

[NanLaew]

26 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Got it.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion but I can't ascribe any credibility to not seeing Trump as an authoritarian style leader. It's like what planet are you from.

Saying that, I will now disengage as I find it a waste of time talking to people clearly not grounded in reality.

 

Don't disengage quite yet. Maybe your thread is a tad premature as they swarm to slather themselves in the myth of the landslide that never was. All this while they furiously doggie-paddle away in their shallow pool of intellectual mediocrity.

 

 

[NanLaew]

11 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

New York 2020

New York 2024

I did say previous to the election NY would see a swing to Trump. 

Trump made a 5 percent gain in Manhattan, 6 percent in Brooklyn, 11 percent in both the Bronx and Queens, and 8 percent on already Republican-leaning Staten Island.

https://www.newsweek.com/news-york-city-map-results-swing-republican-1982887

 

Did it flip though?

 

Anyway, it looks like I've got you furiously googling for maps. Good boy. Much appreciated.

[metisdead]

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[NanLaew]

Don't get me wrong. The Democrats thankfully lost and the Republicans won.

 

Now, let's see how the next two years work out for the president-elect.

[dinsdale]

1 minute ago, NanLaew said:

Did it flip though?

 

Anyway, it looks like I've got you furiously googling for maps. Good boy. Much appreciated.

No one said that solid blue states will flip. Now you can tell us what blue states did flip. Here's a start and this was a big one. PA.

[dinsdale]

Just now, NanLaew said:

Don't get me wrong. The Democrats thankfully lost and the Republicans won.

 

Now, let's see how the next two years work out for the president-elect.

I agree and have said this previous. Give him a free hand. He'll get a slap in 2 years if people don't like the way things are going.

[Yellowtail]

56 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Trump won because the middle class, black Americans, Latinos, Asians, women, Arabs, Muslims, Jews, white America. the working class etc. voted for him more than Harris. 

As I understand it, the only demographic that shifted a bit from Trump to Harris were white males with post graduate degrees, i.e. elitists. 

[NanLaew]

9 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

No one said that solid blue states will flip. Now you can tell us what blue states did flip. Here's a start and this was a big one. PA.

PA is the perpetual SWING state. It has flipped 10 times in the past 70 years.

 

Historically, it has seen more Republican electoral votes than Democrat.

 

It's never been a blue state.

Edited 1 hour ago by NanLaew

[NanLaew]

4 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

I agree and have said this previous. Give him a free hand. He'll get a slap in 2 years if people don't like the way things are going.

 

Yes, let's see if the importance of the mid-terms is lost on EITHER party. It's going to be interesting.

[Yellowtail]

2 hours ago, NickyLouie said:

 

Not for much longer, this wacked out agenda will end with Trump 2025

 

 

 

At least the Nazis look happy

[dinsdale]

1 minute ago, NanLaew said:

PA is the perpetual SWING state. It's flipped 10 times in the past 70 years.

 

Historically, it has seen more Republican electoral votes than Democrat.

 

It's never been a blue state.

Did I say PA was solid blue? No I did not so please DO NOT misrepresent what I posted. I asked for what blue states flipped red. Hint: Every swing state that was blue in 2020 bar none.

[jas007]

14 minutes ago, metisdead said:

A post with a video from a Questionable Source due to the promotion of propaganda, conspiracy theories, and numerous failed fact checks has been removed.

Sounds like it might have been a good video!

[NanLaew]

5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

As I understand it, the only demographic that shifted a bit from Trump to Harris were white males with post graduate degrees, i.e. elitists. 

 

As I understand it, the only demographic that shifted a bit from Trump to Harris were white males with post graduate degrees, i.e. not dumb proles.

[Yellowtail]

1 hour ago, pattayasan said:

This is why Trump won. He unashamedly offered a quid quo pro to the oligarchs to get him elected. With people like this running the show the rule of law has no chance. Bribery and corruption at its worst. Plum governemnt jobs for sale, simple as that.

 

President-elect Donald Trump has selected Chris Wright, a campaign donor and fossil fuel executive, to serve as energy secretary in his upcoming, second administration.

 

https://apnews.com/article/trump-2024-election-energy-secretary-d546f5f81d7b2347b49905be924dfcd7

Good news that!

[Thailand]

13 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Yet Harris outspent Trump by what, two to one? 

 

No one believes you guys anymore. You're going to have to start telling the truth now and them in you want to regain any credibility. 

 

Harris/the left represents the people talking down. 

 

Trump represents the people being talked down to. 

 

Musk did spend $44 billion on Trumps behalf does that count?

[dinsdale]

4 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

As I understand it, the only demographic that shifted a bit from Trump to Harris were white males with post graduate degrees, i.e. not dumb proles.

Not sure what a prole is but it seems you're calling all those that shifted across to Trump are "dumb". Here lies the problem. It was language like this that helped them make up their minds to move to Trump. Of course this wasn't a shift to the right. The right shifted to them. The radical progressive woke left moved away from them.

[Yellowtail]

5 minutes ago, Thailand said:

Musk did spend $44 billion on Trumps behalf does that count?

Yes, the PACs are included in the spending, but I think you are off on what Musk spent.

[Yellowtail]

4 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Not sure what a prole is but it seems you're calling all those that shifted across to Trump are "dumb". Here lies the problem. It was language like this that helped them make up their minds to move to Trump. Of course this wasn't a shift to the right. The right shifted to them. The radical progressive woke left moved away from them.

It's short for proletariat, or the working people the left looks down their nose at. 

[Thailand]

7 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Yes, the PACs are included in the spending, but I think you are off on what Musk spent.

"Elon Musk acquired Twitter for US$44 billion in 2022. This massive deal marked a significant shift in the social media landscape."

 

 

Musk is 100%  MAGA plus!

[NanLaew]

3 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Did I say PA was solid blue? No I did not so please DO NOT misrepresent what I posted. I asked for what blue states flipped red. Hint: Every swing state that was blue in 2020 bar none.

 

You started it when you misrepresented the election results with this landslide nonsense. But OK, your other points are valid. The "traditional" swing states swung.

 

With less than two weeks to go, mainstream media suddenly (desperately?) quoted polls that suggested North Carolina was going to flip and could carry Harris to victory (pending results in your "traditional" swing states). In the end, it wasn't even close in NC and of course the swingers swung and the rest is history.

 

Apart from Carter and the first Obama term, the state has been red since Tricky Dicky. Not a snowball's chance in hell IMHO. That, to me, this colossal straw clutch was affirmation that the Democrats were going to be toast.

 

It will be interesting to see if the pollsters get a firmer handle on predictions going forward, but somehow, I doubt it.

[NanLaew]

19 minutes ago, Thailand said:

Musk did spend $44 billion on Trumps behalf does that count?

 

Insert "Shhhh..." emoji [here]

[NanLaew]

16 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Not sure what a prole is but it seems you're calling all those that shifted across to Trump are "dumb". Here lies the problem. It was language like this that helped them make up their minds to move to Trump. Of course this wasn't a shift to the right. The right shifted to them. The radical progressive woke left moved away from them.

 

I will see your "radical progressive woke left" and raise you "dumb superficial gullible right"

[NanLaew]

11 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

It's short for proletariat, or the working people the left looks down their nose at. 

 

What "the left looks down their nose at" notwithstanding, they are what they are. The salt of the earth, down home, folksy sort.

 

Bless 'em.

[impulse]

42 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

As I understand it, the only demographic that shifted a bit from Trump to Harris were white males with post graduate degrees, i.e. not dumb proles.

 

If you mean the ones who have heavy student debt paying off useless degrees, I can understand why they'd vote Blue.  They want their debt expunged.  No mystery there.

 

[Yellowtail]

Just now, impulse said:

 

If you mean the ones who have heavy student debt paying off useless degrees, I can understand why they'd vote Blue.  They want their debt expunged.  No mystery there.

 

And they can't understand why the dumb prole charged them $300 to clear their drain.