Biden lifts restrictions on Ukraine using US weapons to strike deep inside Russia.

[AndreasHG]

1 hour ago, jas007 said:

It'll only make matters worse.

 

I understand. For Putin and the Russians, anything short than handing over the Ukrainians unarmed, with their hands tied behind their backs and chains on their feet to prevent them from becoming dangerous, only makes things worse.

 

Well, get over it: Things are set to be getting much worse for Russia... ..."drill baby drill" will suffocate your economy and make your aggression in Ukraine much easier to repel for the US NATO allies.

 

[BarraMarra]

Your memory's not that good Frank is it ? let me remind you the Great Red army was defeated by the Mujahedeen tanks against horses. Hazard a guess who won Frank. Putin told all the Russian flag will fly over Kyiv within a week, well wrong again Frank after 2 years he not even close to Kyiv Frank is he ? The mighty Red Army recruiting Koreans to help them. Going well this " Special Operations' " Frank isn't it. 

[BarraMarra]

This is for G-Money who is clutching at straws believing no warrant's have been issued against Putin and his Associates one is Maria Alekseyevna Lvova-Belova charged with the kidnap of Ukrainian Children.

[jas007]

23 minutes ago, AndreasHG said:

 

I understand. For Putin and the Russians, anything short than handing over the Ukrainians unarmed, with their hands tied behind their backs and chains on their feet to prevent them from becoming dangerous, only makes things worse.

 

Well, get over it: Things are set to be getting much worse for Russia... ..."drill baby drill" will suffocate your economy and make your aggression in Ukraine much easier to repel for the US NATO allies.

 

I'm an American living in the Naklua area of Pattaya. 

 

As for the world oil supply? It isn't rocket science. Any substantial increase in the world oil supply will likely affect oil prices. Russia's existing customers would benefit from cheaper oil. Russia would see less revenue. None of this occurs in a vacuum, though, but will unfold over time. And yet the war is at a crucial moment. It will be over before any "drill baby drill" benefit kicks in.  And don't forget the world Economic situation which is also at a critical juncture, of sorts. 

 

Wars must be financed, no? The USA is on the verge of bankruptcy and is about to have a new president and a cost cutting surge the likes of which has not been seen in recent history. It cannot afford WW III. Germany is broke. The UK is broke. France is broke.  And the European NATO countries have militaries that can't do much independently over an extended period of time.  Can those countries using fiat currencies continue to borrow money? Perhaps.  Then again, maybe not for too much longer.  China is floundering., as is Japan. Mountains of debt.  

 

Anyway, it''s all over for Ukraine. Their best hope is to stop the hostilities and come to an agreement with Russia. Maybe they'll retain what's left of their country.  You might not like the alternative.

[BarraMarra]

1 hour ago, jas007 said:

I'm an American living in the Naklua area of Pattaya. 

 

As for the world oil supply? It isn't rocket science. Any substantial increase in the world oil supply will likely affect oil prices. Russia's existing customers would benefit from cheaper oil. Russia would see less revenue. None of this occurs in a vacuum, though, but will unfold over time. And yet the war is at a crucial moment. It will be over before any "drill baby drill" benefit kicks in.  And don't forget the world Economic situation which is also at a critical juncture, of sorts. 

 

Wars must be financed, no? The USA is on the verge of bankruptcy and is about to have a new president and a cost cutting surge the likes of which has not been seen in recent history. It cannot afford WW III. Germany is broke. The UK is broke. France is broke.  And the European NATO countries have militaries that can't do much independently over an extended period of time.  Can those countries using fiat currencies continue to borrow money? Perhaps.  Then again, maybe not for too much longer.  China is floundering., as is Japan. Mountains of debt.  

 

Anyway, it''s all over for Ukraine. Their best hope is to stop the hostilities and come to an agreement with Russia. Maybe they'll retain what's left of their country.  You might not like the alternative.

I'm sure you wouldn't like Canada to walk into the US take everything you had smash your infasructure and force you to speak French Jas s007 but your happy to see Ukraine end up like this. 

[jas007]

18 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

I'm sure you wouldn't like Canada to walk into the US take everything you had smash your infasructure and force you to speak French Jas s007 but your happy to see Ukraine end up like this. 

I'm far from "happy" about any of this mess.  And I certainly didn't have anything to do with any of it.  Ukraine was used. The country was destroyed and its soldiers sent to die for a corrupt regime that received billions in weapons and cash. And I'm sure you know about all the bankers lined up to "rebuild" Ukraine. Much Ukrainian farmland has already been sold, I believe, and trillions of dollars  in natural resources are seemingly up for grabs.  Of course, stopping the war will end those aspirations if there Ukrainians are able to retain what's left of their country.  And that's what makes the situation so dangerous.  The warmongers will do anything to "win."   

 

 

[Yellowtail]

30 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

I'm sure you wouldn't like Canada to walk into the US take everything you had smash your infasructure and force you to speak French Jas s007 but your happy to see Ukraine end up like this. 

Do you think Ukraine would come to save us? 

[transam]

2 minutes ago, jas007 said:

I'm far from "happy" about any of this mess.  And I certainly didn't have anything to do with any of it.  Ukraine was used. The country was destroyed and its soldiers sent to die for a corrupt regime that received billions in weapons and cash. And I'm sure you know about all the bankers lined up to "rebuild" Ukraine. Much Ukrainian farmland has already been sold, I believe, and trillions of dollars  in natural resources are seemingly up for grabs.  Of course, stopping the war will end those aspirations if there Ukrainians are able to retain what's left of their country.  And that's what makes the situation so dangerous.  The warmongers will do anything to "win."   

 

 

Yes, Putin, as Hitler tried to do.......

[pattayasan]

3 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Then why is NATO not trying to beat Russia? 

 

They are. Where do you think the weapons are coming from?

[connda]

On 11/18/2024 at 3:09 AM, CharlieH said:

The move comes as about 10,000 North Korean troops aid Russia in its war and expect to fight in Ukraine in the “next several weeks.”

Ahhh, the invisible North Koreans hiding behind a bowl of Russian Kimchee.  Well, if invisible North Koreans are there - let's have WWIII. 

[connda]

Anybody want to go back and change their votes of my poll about, "Will we have nuclear war before the end of 2024?"

I got a lot of laughs over that.  I still think that pretty soon nobody will be laughing.  <BOOM>  Thermonuclear man-made global warming followed by a man-made climate-change nuclear winter.  🔥🧊

[Yellowtail]

8 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

 

They are. Where do you think the weapons are coming from?

So NATO is trying to beat Russia, and it's been almost three years and they haven't. How long do you expect it will take? 

[pattayasan]

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

So NATO is trying to beat Russia, and it's been almost three years and they haven't. How long do you expect it will take? 

 

I don't expect anything, I have no clue but I support continuing until Putin is overthrown and Russia collapses. Just one of several regimes that need to go away.

[Yellowtail]

Just now, pattayasan said:

 

I don't expect anything, I have no clue but I support continuing until Putin is overthrown and Russia collapses. Just one of several regimes that need to go away.

But you said NATO was trying to beat Russia. Now you say you just want to drag it out until their economy collapses. That's not the same thing, don't pretend it is. Destroy two nations and call it victory. 

 

Is the EU not still buying Russian gas/oil? 

[pattayasan]

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

But you said NATO was trying to beat Russia. Now you say you just want to drag it out until their economy collapses. That's not the same thing, don't pretend it is. Destroy two nations and call it victory. 

 

Is the EU not still buying Russian gas/oil? 

 

Seriously? Do you think NATO doesn't want to defeat Putin?

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, pattayasan said:

 

Seriously? Do you think NATO doesn't want to defeat Putin?

Oh, I think they want Putin defeated, but they are not trying very hard to do it. 

 

 

Is the EU not still buying Russian gas/oil or not? 

[pattayasan]

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

Oh, I think they want Putin defeated, but they are not trying very hard to do it. 

 

 

Is the EU not still buying Russian gas/oil or not? 

 

I agree they could try harder. They need the most powerful nation to take the lead.

[DonniePeverley]

17 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

So NATO is trying to beat Russia, and it's been almost three years and they haven't. How long do you expect it will take? 

 

Nato resources with the US are infinite. This was not worth it for Russia. 

[Yellowtail]

3 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

 

I agree they could try harder. They need the most powerful nation to take the lead.

So they are not trying to beat Russia. Thank you. 

[DonniePeverley]

2 hours ago, jas007 said:

 

 

Wars must be financed, no? The USA is on the verge of bankruptcy and is about to have a new president and a cost cutting surge the likes of which has not been seen in recent history. It cannot afford WW III. Germany is broke. The UK is broke. France is broke.  

 

 

 

Who are they broke too?

 

If they were as you say 'broke' and lost everything, the whole system would collapse .. including the Chinese economy which is dependent on the western countries buying their horse manure. 

[transam]

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

So they are not trying to beat Russia. Thank you. 

Yes they are, by any means possible without boots on the ground to remove Putin from Ukraine, thought we all knew that...🤔

[frank83628]

17 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

 

I don't expect anything, I have no clue but I support continuing until Putin is overthrown and Russia collapses. Just one of several regimes that need to go away.

you'll be waiting a long time, if like most here, time is something they don't have much of!!

 

why should Russia 'go away', name 1 thing that Putin has done that negatively effected your life? 

if you feel that strongly go and join Ukrian, put your fingers on a trigger instead of a keyboard.

[Yellowtail]

oh no

[AndreasHG]

2 hours ago, jas007 said:

The USA is on the verge of bankruptcy and is about to have a new president and a cost cutting surge the likes of which has not been seen in recent history. It cannot afford WW III. Germany is broke. The UK is broke. France is broke.

LOL: your incurable optimism made my day 😁

[jas007]

8 minutes ago, AndreasHG said:

LOL: your incurable optimism made my day 😁

Just out of curiosity, what do you think I;m being optimistic about? Or are you being faceitious?

[AndreasHG]

5 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Just out of curiosity

If you don't mind, I take the fifth. After all, Trump took it over 450 times to avoid self incrimination...

[frank83628]

5 hours ago, AndreasHG said:

 

Also Ukraine isn't fighting Russia alone. It is fighting against the whole Axis of Evil (Russia, North Korea, Iran, China, Cuba, Venezuela, etc.).

And yet, the Axis of Evil, has proved to be a paper tiger together with russia.

 

Axis of evil is so 2001. 

[AlexRich]

On 11/18/2024 at 8:33 AM, G_Money said:

IF Putin doesn’t attack NATO?

 

IF is a big word despite only 2 letters.

 

 

Anybody who believes that Putin fancies his chances against NATO is a fool. Putin is a criminal who has robbed his country, and he wants to keep control and keep the money he has stolen. 
 

As Lenin said “there are decades when nothing happens, and weeks when decades happen”. 
 

Putin has never been weaker than he is today. If the West could get a backbone they would crush Russia, just by supplying Ukraine what they need. Putin would get his throat slit by circling rivals before he could do anything. 
 

Unfortunately the US Russian assets have taken over the White House. America will soon be a transnational criminal regime, and the Constitution will get trashed. Heil Trump will be the cry. 

[dinsdale]

On 11/18/2024 at 4:17 PM, Eric Loh said:

First order of the day after given permission by Biden is to trained the ATACMS towards the 50,000 Russian and North Korean troops in the Kursk region. Push the invaders out of Kursk and Ukraine will have a stronger bargaining power at the table.

Rubbish. Kursk territory held by Ukraine is miniscule in comparison to the gains Russia has made. There is no evidence of Nth Koreans active in this area of the Kursk Oblast. "Push the invaders out of Kursk."? Ukraine are the invaders. Try and think rationally. As for hitting Kursk with the ATACMS it seems this is what they've been limited to by the US. Not sure. I've posted many times ATACMS will make little to no difference to the course of the war. Bargaining power? So you finally admit Trump will bring an end to it. I'm sure this was the plan for the Ukraine moving into the Kursk Oblast but it's not much bargaining power. Maybe the bit of the Kursk Oblast they hold in a deal for Donetsk. 

p.s. To all the vacuous, spiteful, vitriolic, ad hominem posters who are going to comment calling me a Putin fanboy or whatever and or leave the pitiful negative emojis I DON'T CARE. What you see above in my post is something you are devoid of. A grasp on reality.

[Rimmer]

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@frank83628