TM30 - real estate agent reports online, but you still need to go and report it yourself!!!

[Pattaya57]

1 hour ago, CallumWK said:

So can someone now for once and all confirm if a TM30 is required or not? My IO is Jomtien

My experience at Jomtien is that every application required a copy of my TM30. Some examples:

 

I'm about to do a residence certificate and the document list asks for a TM30

 

I did a 90 day report last month and a copy of TM30 was required and is on the 90 day required document list on the counter

 

I did a non-imm O 12 month extension in July. I had a print out of the online TM30 I did myself. I was asked to go replace that print-out with the small TM30 slip of paper they staple into the back of passport. Luckily I didn't have to apply again, just swapped my TM30 page for the small slip of paper.

 

Countless 30 day extensions at Jomtien since 2018. All required a copy of TM30.

 

[bbi1]

13 minutes ago, Pattaya57 said:

My experience at Jomtien is that every application required a copy of my TM30. Some examples:

 

I'm about to do a residence certificate and the document list asks for a TM30

 

 

Yesterday I did also ask for the paperwork to do a certificate of residence, as this is something I will do later to renew my licence. Funny thing is, on the slip of required documents, it says:

 

Evidence of your address (House Book, Lease Agreement or TM30). I'm wondering if someone doesn't do a TM30 if they will just accept you bringing your lease agreement only, as per their required documents square paper slip they gave.

[bbi1]

17 minutes ago, Pattaya57 said:

I did a non-imm O 12 month extension in July. I had a print out of the online TM30 I did myself. I was asked to go replace that print-out with the small TM30 slip of paper they staple into the back of passport. Luckily I didn't have to apply again, just swapped my TM30 page for the small slip of paper.

 

So this was exactly what I experienced myself yesterday. Doesn't matter if you have a TM30 online printout, everyone still needs to do the whole process as normal as if you never did a TM30 online in the first place!

[Pattaya57]

1 minute ago, bbi1 said:

Yesterday I did also ask for the paperwork to do a certificate of residence, as this is something I will do later to renew my licence. Funny thing is, on the slip of required documents, it says:

 

Evidence of your address (House Book, Lease Agreement or TM30). I'm wondering if someone doesn't do a TM30 if they will just accept you bringing your lease agreement only, as per their required documents square paper slip they gave.

I don't have a lease agreement and my blue housebook doesn't have my name in it so it's a TM30 for me

[CallumWK]

1 minute ago, bbi1 said:

Evidence of your address (House Book, Lease Agreement or TM30). I'm wondering if someone doesn't do a TM30 if they will just accept you bringing your lease agreement only, as per their required documents square paper slip they gave.

 

As explained, I have a house book with my name in it, so seems that is accepted instead of a TM30.

 

I can not believe that different officers at different desks overlooked the lack of a TM30 for 12 years

[bbi1]

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[Pattaya57]

5 minutes ago, bbi1 said:

So this was exactly what I experienced myself yesterday. Doesn't matter if you have a TM30 online printout, everyone still needs to do the whole process as normal as if you never did a TM30 online in the first place!

I didn't have to do the whole process again (that would be filling out TM30 form and attaching copies of passport, entry stamps and condo docs). I just handed over my TM30 form and they swapped it for the small TM30 slip of paper (took about 2 minutes)

 

[bbi1]

2 minutes ago, Pattaya57 said:

I didn't have time do the whole process again (that would be filling out TM30 form and attaching copies of passport, entry stamps and condo docs). I just haded over my TM30 form and thet swapped it for the small TM30 slip of paper

Ok, so your experience was different to mine yesterday. They required the form and photocopies of everything, as if you were doing it from scratch.

[Rob Browder]

7 hours ago, bbi1 said:

When I went to them I was expecting to hear that all is fine and I don't need to bother, but they said no it's not enough, need to provide all photocopies of everything and the form and lodge it with them while waiting for over 60 people in the queue before me.

I had to wait in that TM-30 queue last year, but they only required the printout of my online-submission and passport face-page copy, then gave me the "receipt" for my passport.   Asking for the lease seems to be new (or an error by the clerk).

[Rob Browder]

Edit: (nevermind - he was talking about getting a CoR)

[Caldera]

1 hour ago, bbi1 said:

Yesterday I did also ask for the paperwork to do a certificate of residence, as this is something I will do later to renew my licence. Funny thing is, on the slip of required documents, it says:

 

Evidence of your address (House Book, Lease Agreement or TM30). I'm wondering if someone doesn't do a TM30 if they will just accept you bringing your lease agreement only, as per their required documents square paper slip they gave.

 

That's probably unlikely, considering their infatuation with TM30 notifications. I'd guess that they would simply send you to the TM30 counter with those other documents first, and tell you to come back once you have the TM30 slip.

[BrandonJT]

5 hours ago, CallumWK said:

 

Since there is a discussion about TM30 ongoing in another sub forum, let me post this here, and see what the response is.

 

I live since 12 years at the same address, and have my own yellow tabien baan.

In those 12 years, I have left the country at least 4 times on a re-entry permit, and obviously have filed 12 times for an extension based on retirement.

I'm on my third passport since I moved into this address.

Never have I been asked for a TM30, and there is also none attached in my passport.

I'm sure that during all those visits, at least one IO would have noticed the error (if there is one), and taken the opportunity to charge me for not following immigration law.

I also have found some older threads where it is stated that if you leave the country on a re-entry permit, and return to the same address, no new TM30 is required.

So can someone now for once and all confirm if a TM30 is required or not? My IO is Jomtien

Jomtien used to not require a new TM30 even if you left Thailand.  

Around a year ago they changed their policy, and fined a ton of people.  The new policy was that if you left Thailand and returned you needed to file a new TM30.

Of course it could have changed again in the meantime.

[bbi1]

53 minutes ago, BrandonJT said:

Around a year ago they changed their policy, and fined a ton of people.  The new policy was that if you left Thailand and returned you needed to file a new TM30.

Of course it could have changed again in the meantime.

Exactly. In the past couple of years it was each and every time you left and re-entered Thailand, even with the same visa and staying at the same address, you had to file a TM30 or get a 1,600 baht fine.

[alant]

On 11/18/2024 at 11:22 PM, Tropicalevo said:

Your story is strange.

We have lots of guests arriving in rental villas for a holiday.

It will be the same for hotels.

We do all TM 30 reporting on-line.

Never any problems.

Even when long term guests go for visa extensions, as long as we have reported them via the online TM 30 system, no problems.

Immigration here are happy as long as there is a TM 30 report.

The problem would seem to be your local office or even the individual clerk.

My wife has renal chalets but since the "new easy" online system change from the older online system we cannot do online, local immigration don't seem to know why

[arick]

On 11/19/2024 at 12:55 PM, bbi1 said:

Um, as stated in my OP, I gave the printout to Jomtien and they said it's not acceptable. I had to go through the whole process. Did you even read the 1st post before posting this???

You don't need to go and report it yourself You're talking b******* Maybe only the sin City of Jomethian immigration . Flash your little paper in front of them that you have your TM30 from online and see what they do. You have young kids at the entrance door just giving every making everybody pay money to do their TM30 it's just a scam

[DrJack54]

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[Card]

On 11/19/2024 at 12:48 PM, Caldera said:

 

Could be anything, maybe just a typo in your name or passport number. The important point there is though, online is fine (in Bangkok).

I've been here 20 years and never allowed a typo to get through. Come on. ....

[Albo]

Not my experience. 15 years BKK

 

CW BKK

[Albo]

On 11/20/2024 at 9:23 AM, alant said:

My wife has renal chalets but since the "new easy" online system change from the older online system we cannot do online, local immigration don't seem to know why

 

Can't be bothered to spend an hour, train themselves up on the SW

[zhounan]

I tried, but I never really understood how these TMs work, ask one officer says A, ask another one officer says B.

[Thailand]

On 11/20/2024 at 9:23 AM, alant said:

My wife has renal chalets but since the "new easy" online system change from the older online system we cannot do online, local immigration don't seem to know why

Did you re-register with new username & password?

 

Renal chalets sound novel!