Sometimes things go through my mind remembering things I had seen in the past 

 

Don't you think it's shameful and selfish to have children past say 65?

 

A Philippines YouTuber died last week,he had just had a child at 69

 

He admitted his newly born son would not see him when he was an adult 

 

I again remembered the face of a old farang the image going through my mind this morning after reading comments on YouTube about that Philippines YouTuber 

 

Last October I was walking up past Rompho markets in Pattaya I walked slowly past a elderly farang with a young Thai partner and two babies being pushed in a pram who I presume were his children 

 

He seen me looking and for that 5 seconds he had a smirk on his face almost reading to me he was "proud" of himself that's how I defined that "smirk" at me almost like he was "high & mighty " old man for having kids at his age probably late 70's

 

About 15 minutes later his wife was pushing the double pram and looking at stalls ,he was standing away from her 

 

I took the opportunity to walk up behind him , and spoke quietly into his right ear 

"Get a life " I said quietly "get a life's

 

He turned his head immediately to look at me 

He had red veins in his red nose 

"Be ashamed very ashamed " 

He looked at me stunned not saying a word before I darted off !

 

The look in his eyes like a kangaroo in car headlights was amazing , completely stunned ,no smirk anymore .. probably knows what he did !!!

 

 

 

I dont believe you. You dont have the balls to say that to someone in real life

If an old man has kids with a younger woman then at least leave enough money for the family to pay for the essentials of life when one dies.  I wonder if the 69 year old had life insurance or savings that will provide for the family?  I knew a guy who had his second family in his mid 50's.  He died at 62 when his daughter was 5 but he had life insurance, his pension was split 50/50 with the wife #1 and #2 and the he left a significant amount in investments.  

10 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

The look in his eyes like a kangaroo in car headlights was amazing , completely stunned ,no smirk anymore ..

 

Yeah right....

Have a kid Georgie. If you were a US citizen you'd get $1400. Month till she's 18. Longer if she attends college.

You must feel this way also about men who get divorced and leave their wife with children as well. At least if he dies, he would have set up some financial recourse to take care of them when he is gone. had insurance and bought a home for them to live in. 

What does age have to do with it? If the family is happy and secure then you have no right to judge any of them. 

 

Seeing that many men in this world should never have children, being narcissists, abusive neglective or all of the three, what matters is how that father will treat his child, especially in the first 5 years of it's life, and supported the rest of the years he's alive. A good father can leave a priceless legacy to his child as long as he's there and not away working all the time or hiding in bars instead of being available.

 

I'm thinking you don't have any children as you've never mentioned any, and this doesn't qualify you to comment in any event, as you haven't a clue about the sacrifices a father makes to support his children, or what's needed to put them into the world in a positive frame of mind. That man you supposedly talked to, which I doubt, has a life, and what you saw was it. A family is the most important thing we have while we're here, although some are toxic and hurt their children. You would do yourself a favor and not talk to people like you do9Did), because the next one might take offense and knock you off your feet. And by the way, I had my last daughter at age 60, and will bring her to the US for a better life as soon as I can re establish there, and raise her until she is out of the house independent, and that will make 50 years of raising children when that happens.

53 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Sometimes things go through my mind remembering things I had seen in the past 

 

Don't you think it's shameful and selfish to have children past say 65?

 

A Philippines YouTuber died last week,he had just had a child at 69

 

He admitted his newly born son would not see him when he was an adult 

 

I again remembered the face of a old farang the image going through my mind this morning after reading comments on YouTube about that Philippines YouTuber 

 

Last October I was walking up past Rompho markets in Pattaya I walked slowly past a elderly farang with a young Thai partner and two babies being pushed in a pram who I presume were his children 

 

He seen me looking and for that 5 seconds he had a smirk on his face almost reading to me he was "proud" of himself that's how I defined that "smirk" at me almost like he was "high & mighty " old man for having kids at his age probably late 70's

 

About 15 minutes later his wife was pushing the double pram and looking at stalls ,he was standing away from her 

 

I took the opportunity to walk up behind him , and spoke quietly into his right ear 

"Get a life " I said quietly "get a life's

 

He turned his head immediately to look at me 

He had red veins in his red nose 

"Be ashamed very ashamed " 

He looked at me stunned not saying a word before I darted off !

 

The look in his eyes like a kangaroo in car headlights was amazing , completely stunned ,no smirk anymore .. probably knows what he did !!!

 

 

 

He's helping to stave off population collapse just as Elon has ordered! What are you doing?

4 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

He's helping to stave off population collapse just as Elon has ordered! What are you doing?

Elon is an idiot. Are you supporting idiocy?

14 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

'm thinking you don't have any children as you've never mentioned any, and this doesn't qualify you to comment in any event, as you haven't a clue about the sacrifices a father makes to support his children, or what's needed to put them into the world in a positive frame of mind.

Rubbish. One doesn't have to have contributed to world destruction by actually fathering sprogs to know than many parents raise bad children that grow up to be bad adults. Do you imagine that a child becomes a brat because they are loved too much?

31 minutes ago, thesetat said:

You must feel this way also about men who get divorced and leave their wife with children as well. At least if he dies, he would have set up some financial recourse to take care of them when he is gone. had insurance and bought a home for them to live in. 

What does age have to do with it? If the family is happy and secure then you have no right to judge any of them. 

 

Nothing to say about fathering children that will either be deprived of a father through death or humiliated because their father looks like a grandfather?

I think men that father children when old enough to be grandfathers or already have children are selfish old gits that think only of themselves, and not at all about the child.

22 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Seeing that many men in this world should never have children, being narcissists, abusive neglective or all of the three, what matters is how that father will treat his child, especially in the first 5 years of it's life, and supported the rest of the years he's alive. A good father can leave a priceless legacy to his child as long as he's there and not away working all the time or hiding in bars instead of being available.

 

I'm thinking you don't have any children as you've never mentioned any, and this doesn't qualify you to comment in any event, as you haven't a clue about the sacrifices a father makes to support his children, or what's needed to put them into the world in a positive frame of mind. That man you supposedly talked to, which I doubt, has a life, and what you saw was it. A family is the most important thing we have while we're here, although some are toxic and hurt their children. You would do yourself a favor and not talk to people like you do9Did), because the next one might take offense and knock you off your feet. And by the way, I had my last daughter at age 60, and will bring her to the US for a better life as soon as I can re establish there, and raise her until she is out of the house independent, and that will make 50 years of raising children when that happens.

How much money extra from SS are you getting?

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

Rubbish. One doesn't have to have contributed to world destruction by actually fathering sprogs to know than many parents raise bad children that grow up to be bad adults. Do you imagine that a child becomes a brat because they are loved too much?

Having children isn't contributing to the world's destruction. Not raising them right or in a safe environment for them, or not being there does. A child becomes damaged by either abuse, neglect or spoiling.

Just now, EVENKEEL said:

How much money extra from SS are you getting?

Enough to help.

Just now, fredwiggy said:

Having children isn't contributing to the world's destruction. Not raising them right or in a safe environment for them, or not being there does. A child becomes damaged by either abuse, neglect or spoiling.

Most of the children I see are brats, but those are the ones that didn't get beaten to death by their mum's latest boyfriend.

 

Perhaps there are lots that are not brats, but I don't see them because they are in their bedrooms getting bullied on social media or looking at porn.

after all, to many shouldnt have kids no matter age their are at! 

 

 

5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Enough to help.

If it was your choice to have children, why should other people have to pay tax to give you anything? If people can't afford children they shouldn't have them.

 

Many years ago if I was down town on a Friday night ( late night shopping back then- no weekend shopping ) I'd see all the unmarried teen mums gather in the square to gossip. Used to make me mad that I was earning a pittance and paying tax to support stupid girls that wouldn't insist on a condom.

I actually knew one, and she had a better life than I did thanks to other people's money.

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

Nothing to say about fathering children that will either be deprived of a father through death or humiliated because their father looks like a grandfather?

I think men that father children when old enough to be grandfathers or already have children are selfish old gits that think only of themselves, and not at all about the child.

That makes little sense because you can be a grandfather at 35 very easily, and age means nothing besides your extra wisdom and knowledge on child rearing, IF you were that all along. If you're there from age 0-5, that child will learn most of what they need in those years, with any extra years bolstering that. There are countless fathers who have children young, and are never there for them, for many reasons. How is having another human and doing all you can for that human selfish and thinking only of yourself? Quite the opposite. When you have a child, AND are a responsible father, you are sacrificing your life to raise that child, support them, and put them into the world with enough life knowledge so they can fare for themselves.

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

Most of the children I see are brats, but those are the ones that didn't get beaten to death by their mum's latest boyfriend.

 

Perhaps there are lots that are not brats, but I don't see them because they are in their bedrooms getting bullied on social media or looking at porn.

You can never assume what goes on in another's home, as you aren't there 24/7. All children are brats at times, especially when they reach teen years, when they're supposed to rebel and become themselves, but the teaching before always comes back, unless they are surrounded by disturbed peers they like, which can lead them astray. At least for awhile.

From what i have seen in my time in LOS is that sometimes older fathers are less involved in the lives of young children.  I used to go to the same coffee shop in Chiang Mai for years and would see the same couple(much oder foreign guy and a much younger Thai women).  The guy would drink coffee, smoke and stare into the street and the woman just drank her coffee.  One year later the couple now had a baby. The mother took care of the baby but the old guy smoked, drank coffee and stared into the street.  Next year the girl was now an active toddler and the lady who ran the coffee shop played with her and showed her love and affection.  The old guy did the same thing.  He never once even looked at his kid.  Maybe he  shows her affection at home but I have my doubts. Maybe he is the best father in the world when the family is at home. 

I never had kids and this is based upon my experience of never having  lived in a stable home with an actual family.  I did not want any kid to turn out like me so i had little desire to get married and have children. 

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

If it was your choice to have children, why should other people have to pay tax to give you anything? If people can't afford children they shouldn't have them.

People pay taxes because that's how everyone is helped in various ways. No taxes, who pays? This isn't communism and control in the US. I pay taxes all of my working life, so what's wrong with being helped to support a life?

Just now, sqwakvfr said:

From what i have seen in my time in LOS is that sometimes older fathers are less involved in the lives of young children.  I used to go to the same coffee shop in Chiang Mai for years and would see the same couple(much oder foreign guy and a much younger Thai women).  The guy would drink coffee, smoke and stare into the street and the woman just drank her coffee.  One year later the couple now had a baby. The mother took care of the baby but the old guy smoked, drank coffee and stared into the street.  Next year the girl was now an active toddler and the lady who ran the coffee shop played with her and showed her love and affection.  The old guy did the same thing.  He never once even looked at his kid.  Maybe he  shows her affection at home but I have my doubts. Maybe he is the father in the world when the family is at home. 

I never had kids and this is mostly because of the example set by the two people who were allegedly my father and mother. They are long gone and I have never missed them. I did not want any kid to turn out like me so i had little desire to get married and have children. 

Many people should never have children, mainly because what they grew up with was parents that were the same. It's hard to change your way of thinking if all you saw growing up was neglect or abuse, but it is possible, if you want better for your own kids.

9 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

When you have a child, AND are a responsible father, you are sacrificing your life to raise that child, support them, and put them into the world with enough life knowledge so they can fare for themselves.

Except that isn't the norm.

5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

People pay taxes because that's how everyone is helped in various ways. No taxes, who pays? This isn't communism and control in the US. I pay taxes all of my working life, so what's wrong with being helped to support a life?

Thailand doesn't steal people's money to give to families with children. I like the Thai way.

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

If it was your choice to have children, why should other people have to pay tax to give you anything? If people can't afford children they shouldn't have them.

 

Many years ago if I was down town on a Friday night ( late night shopping back then- no weekend shopping ) I'd see all the unmarried teen mums gather in the square to gossip. Used to make me mad that I was earning a pittance and paying tax to support stupid girls that wouldn't insist on a condom.

I actually knew one, and she had a better life than I did thanks to other people's money.

Of course there are some that leach of the system as much as they can, and many, including one here I know personally, had way too many children,11,  just thinking they would take care of her when she was older. Now, including my ex, all resent her because she was a narcissist that only had children for that reason and they were all neglected, one after another, when yearly another child was born and the previous ones were pushed aside and put in school way too early. This is where narcissist come from, and they take that anger from childhood into their future relationships and children's thinking.

Bernie Ecclestone, last child born in 2021, he was 91... so more like a great granddad 

Now 94 says he has no plans of dying in a interview in the F1 paddock the other day

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

Thailand doesn't steal people's money to give to families with children. I like the Thai way.

No, they're controlled and fed BS and follow like sheep because of free health care and their low wages barely gets millions by.

Many Thai kids have "no father". More precisely the father ran away and never paid for anything.

When the father is an old guy who leaves the mother and child some money then that is probably already a better alternative.

 

When I was young, I had a friend with old parents (difficult to say how old, maybe 70 when he was 20). He was very balanced - maybe because his old and experienced parents. 

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

Except that isn't the norm.

No it's not, and the reason for most of the world's problems which begins at home.

10 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

You can never assume what goes on in another's home, as you aren't there 24/7. All children are brats at times, especially when they reach teen years, when they're supposed to rebel and become themselves, but the teaching before always comes back, unless they are surrounded by disturbed peers they like, which can lead them astray. At least for awhile.

You keep on talking about the ideal. Mostly life isn't ideal and neither are people.

 

I never rebelled. I was either in boarding school or working, to be rebelling against anything.