1 hour ago, Callmeishmael said:

So, Trump blamed the crash on DEI hiring.  From Fox News, here is the helicopter pilot: (Andrew Eaves from Mississippi)

 

And here is the airplane pilot: (Sam Lilley from Georgia)

 

 

 

Are these two are DEI hires?

 

 

 

 

Trump is the first disabled pensioner with Propecia to be elected to the Whitehouse, which makes him a sort of DEI hire. No doubt he picked up a few sympathy votes due to a scabby right ear.

 

Trump has a physical disability, deformed feet, that precluded him from military service. So him and FDR both had physical disabilities, but FDR wasn't of pensionable age.

 

Makes you wonder who originated these fabrications:

 

https://www.newsweek.com/washington-dc-plane-crash-jo-ellis-trans-helicopter-pilot-wrongly-named-2024149

10 hours ago, Lacessit said:

The consensus seems to be the ATC was understaffed.

 

As usual. Trump is very long on detail of who is to blame, and very short on saying how he is going to fix it.

 

America is probably the busiest country in the world as far as domestic air travel goes, I can't see how gettiing rid of so-called diversity hires in ATC is going to help air safety.

 

And maybe some people didn't have their minds on the job after getting this email:

 

https://www.opm.gov/fork

 

The only diversity hires, if any, among ATC, will be transgenders, minorities and disabled veterans. All are required t pass strict medical tests. All are supposed to report changes in health. All have annual exams. All have to be approved by the Flight Surgeon.

 

As  said before, if he really believes that the ATCs are mostly halfwits, why isn't he using his Presidential power to order an immediate grounding of flights in the US, until all 500 ATCs undergo rigourous healthchecks?

 

The Governor of Michigan says this. We are going to have 4 years of foot-in-mouth from this President.

 

25 minutes ago, MicroB said:

 

And maybe some people didn't have their minds on the job after getting this email:

 

https://www.opm.gov/fork

 

The only diversity hires, if any, among ATC, will be transgenders, minorities and disabled veterans. All are required t pass strict medical tests. All are supposed to report changes in health. All have annual exams. All have to be approved by the Flight Surgeon.

 

As  said before, if he really believes that the ATCs are mostly halfwits, why isn't he using his Presidential power to order an immediate grounding of flights in the US, until all 500 ATCs undergo rigourous healthchecks?

 

The Governor of Michigan says this. We are going to have 4 years of foot-in-mouth from this President.

 

 

Gosh.  Are you talking about the same FAA that's been absolutely pilloried the past few years for its negligent oversight of Boeing that caused 2 737 Max aircraft to crash, and the door to blow off an Alaska Airlines 737?  That FAA?

 

Maybe you should listen to this from Michael Pierson, a former ATC:

 

Former air traffic controller Michael Pearson said on “The Ingraham Angle” that the short staffing was “attributable to the Obama administration.”

 

“The system has been under attack due to DEI and the FAA bowing to wokeness since 2010, since the Obama administration,” Pearson said. “The lack of staffing is directly attributable to the Obama administration terminating the lists of eligible, well-trained air traffic control statements in 36 universities across the country in 2013 because they were too white.”

 

Simultaneously, the FAA rolled out an immunity program which, Pearson said, has fundamentally altered the handling of operational errors.  “The FAA also, at the same time, implemented an immunity program. So you think you’re seeing legitimate statistics? You’re not. In the old days, before 2010, the immunity program, if an air traffic controller got two airplanes too close, too many times, it would be decertified and retrained,” Pearson said. “Now, they’re not. “The FAA cannot retrain these people. If somebody has a repetitive instance of malfeasance or lack of competency, the FAA, because of this immunity program, cannot rectify the situation. They have to basically allow the person to remain in the same position,” 

 

Perhaps Trump knows some stuff we don't?

I'll let you find the interview on Fox's Ingraham Angle...

 

 

 

I think we all know how this will play out.

 

Trump says DEI played a role in this tragedy.

The left throw a hissy fit and meltdown. 

Lefty "fact checkers" get to work claiming it's all lies.

Slowly more info comes to light showing that DEI DID play a role.

The left say its old news and move on to the next (false) or manufactured outrage so no more discussion.

 

Every. Single. Time.

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I think we all know how this will play out.

 

Trump says DEI played a role in this tragedy.

The left throw a hissy fit and meltdown. 

Lefty "fact checkers" get to work claiming it's all lies.

Slowly more info comes to light showing that DEI DID play a role.

The left say its old news and move on to the next (false) or manufactured outrage so no more discussion.

 

Every. Single. Time.

And as usual....

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-evidence-appears-blame-faa-diversity-initiatives-factor/story?id=118272015

Air traffic control is a “meritocracy,” says former FAA air traffic manager

The air traffic control profession is a “meritocracy,” according to Michael McCormick, a former FAA air traffic manager and associate professor in air traffic management at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University.

“Only the best can go through the rigorous selection program, the screening program and then one-to-five-year training program prior to receiving their certification,” McCormick told CNN Friday morning.

McCormick’s comments come after President Donald Trump blamed DEI policies for the collision.

McCormick, who shut down New York City air traffic on 9/11, also said it was common practice for one air traffic controller to work two different tower positions.

“In this instance, it was actually a good thing, because now you have one controller who’s actually talking to and controlling both of the aircraft,” he said.

“Otherwise, if it was a separate controller, then the two controllers would have to constantly coordinate back and forth about what is happening and what they’re choosing to do.”

Some context: At the time of the collision, one air traffic controller was working two different tower positions and handling both local and helicopter traffic, an air traffic control source told CNN. The New York Times reported that an internal preliminary Federal Aviation Administration report says staffing was “not normal for the time of day and volume of traffic.”

 

Live updates: DC plane crash investigation continues as families mourn tragedy | CNN

https://edition.cnn.com/webview/us/live-news/plane-crash-washington-dc-trump-01-31-25?adobe_mc=TS%3D1738350136|MCMID%3D72930993794519071334713548976840673148|MCORGID%3D7FF852E2556756057F000101%40AdobeOrg&iid=cnn-mobile-app&iid=cnn-mobile-app

Oh look what has just come out. 

 

 lawsuit against the FAA, filed by attorneys from Mountain States Legal Foundation, represents over 2,500 aspiring air traffic controllers who argue that they were unfairly rejected due to the agency’s race-based hiring policies.

https://aseannow.com/topic/1350462-faa’s-diversity-policies-under-fire-after-deadly-air-collision/#comment-19554524

 

7 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I think we all know how this will play out.

 

Trump says DEI played a role in this tragedy.

The left throw a hissy fit and meltdown. 

Lefty "fact checkers" get to work claiming it's all lies.

Slowly more info comes to light showing that DEI DID play a role.

The left say its old news and move on to the next (false) or manufactured outrage so no more discussion.

 

Every. Single. Time.

Actually, it was Trump throwing the hissy fit. Based on no evidence, he hysterically lays the blame on DEI.

12 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Was it my imagination or did lefty msm channels stoop so low as to have a death chyron running at the bottom of the screens during their gain of fauci pandemic, which magically disappeared when 81m votes😅 boy wonder in the basement began his weekend at bernies tenure? And didnt they bleat on about Trump being responsible for murdering all those that perished during it? Yes, yes they did. So they might want to save credibility and sit this one out.

And didnt they bleat on about Trump being responsible for murdering all those that perished during it?

I don't know about the MSM ( not watching it ), but plenty on AN that were blaming Trump for every death that happened during the man made covid fiasco, even if with covid and not because of covid.

This DEI explanation is irrelevant as the FAA's problem is simply to get enough qualified ACTs, whatever their race or gender.

 

https://www.oig.dot.gov/sites/default/files/FAA Controller Staffing and Training at Critical Facilities Final Report-06-21-23.pdf

 

https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/faa-hits-air-traffic-controller-hiring-goal

19 hours ago, Callmeishmael said:

So, Trump blamed the crash on DEI hiring.  From Fox News, here is the helicopter pilot: (Andrew Eaves from Mississippi)

 

And here is the airplane pilot: (Sam Lilley from Georgia)

 

 

 

Are these two are DEI hires?

 

What about the 3rd name they are not releasing ?

8 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

And didnt they bleat on about Trump being responsible for murdering all those that perished during it?

I don't know about the MSM ( not watching it ), but plenty on AN that were blaming Trump for every death that happened during the man made covid fiasco, even if with covid and not because of covid.

I see the white have announced COVID was from a lab leak... so there is the reason fro Faucis preemptive pardon

19 hours ago, MicroB said:

 

Trump is the first disabled pensioner with Propecia to be elected to the Whitehouse, which makes him a sort of DEI hire. No doubt he picked up a few sympathy votes due to a scabby right ear.

 

Trump has a physical disability, deformed feet, that precluded him from military service. So him and FDR both had physical disabilities, but FDR wasn't of pensionable age.

 

Makes you wonder who originated these fabrications:

 

https://www.newsweek.com/washington-dc-plane-crash-jo-ellis-trans-helicopter-pilot-wrongly-named-2024149

Pretty sure when you have hair plugs like your man Biden did they tell you to take finasteride for the rest of your life. Btw Trump's hair is his own. Didnt that clown Jimmy Kimmel try pulling Trumps wig off on live tv to discover that (man I hate seeing lefty narratives shredded) it was REAL hair😅

 

Not a good sign when a posts 1st sentence is speaking in opposites aka democrat disinformation. Must do better!

This heartless man would not know compassion, sympathy or decency if any of those qualities bit him on the ankle. He is so clueless and so devoid of soul, one has to wonder if he came from an alien universe populated by creatures that only know hostility and hatred. I don't think he is human. 

 

He will seize any opportunity to create division regardless of the circumstances. His quality set makes him the polar opposite of a good leader. 

3 hours ago, frank83628 said:

What about the 3rd name they are not releasing ?

The family requested her name not be released.  But the transgender pilot, Jo Ellis, posted a Facebook ' proof of life ' video on Friday to refute all the Maga idiots who wanted to pin all the blame on her for the crash.

Idiots!

 

 

 

3 hours ago, frank83628 said:

I see the white have announced COVID was from a lab leak... so there is the reason fro Faucis preemptive pardon

The usual baseless MAGA claim!🙂

The Covid virus cannot originate from the viruses used for the U.S. research program.

 

But if you have DNA evidence about it, feel free to show it!

On 1/31/2025 at 12:12 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

I prefer "despicable" Trump to cackling Harris, any day of the week. We had a narrow escape there.

Who is "we"?

In spite of your unstoppable chatter on US political subjects if I remember correctly you are not an American.

Certainly have strong opinions on things that don't really concern you, in my opinion.

Feel free to go forth and multiply with yourself.

1 hour ago, cdemundo said:

Who is "we"?

In spite of your unstoppable chatter on US political subjects if I remember correctly you are not an American.

Certainly have strong opinions on things that don't really concern you, in my opinion.

Feel free to go forth and multiply with yourself.

 

Good one.

22 hours ago, impulse said:

Perhaps Trump knows some stuff we don't?

He knows and most know now the the deadly consequences and failure of democrat DEI policies which were rampant in the feckless Biden/Harris admin but getting purged now by and via the mandate voters imposed on Trump

 

 

Dept. of Transportation

https://www.oig.dot.gov/sites/default/files/FAA Controller Staffing and Training at Critical Facilities Final Report-06-21-23.pdf

1 minute ago, illisdean said:

He knows and most know now the the deadly consequences and failure of democrat DEI policies which were rampant in the feckless Biden/Harris admin but getting purged by the mandate voters imposed on Trump. 

 

 

 

 

 

.....and yet Trump did nothing......very poor leadership.....

 

The FAA’s policies on hiring people with intellectual disabilities, however, haven’t changed since 2013 – and remained in effect throughout Trump’s first term in office.

 

 

 

 

11 minutes ago, illisdean said:

He knows and most know now the the deadly consequences and failure of democrat DEI policies which were rampant in the feckless Biden/Harris admin but getting purged by the mandate voters imposed on Trump. 

 

 

Here's the report: FAA Faces Controller Staffing Challenges as Air Traffic Operations Return to Pre-Pandemic Levels at Critical Facilities

Not sure 

5 hours ago, candide said:

This DEI explanation is irrelevant as the FAA's problem is simply to get enough qualified ACTs, whatever their race or gender.

 

https://www.oig.dot.gov/sites/default/files/FAA Controller Staffing and Training at Critical Facilities Final Report-06-21-23.pdf

 

https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/faa-hits-air-traffic-controller-hiring-goal

A continuous decline in air traffic controllers during Trump's first presidency. A national disgrace.

Thank god Biden increased the numbers.

 

5 minutes ago, bannork said:

Thank god Biden increased the numbers.

Yes, he certainly hired more, mostly mentally disabled candidates, something he struggles with too as you no doubt know. LOL

 

 

8 minutes ago, bannork said:

Thank god Biden increased the numbers.

More of the same.

 

 

10 minutes ago, bannork said:

Thank god Biden increased the numbers.

What didn't Biden manage to destroy....

 

 

13 minutes ago, bannork said:

Thank god Biden increased the numbers.

Be more thankful Bidens reign of destruction is over.

 

 

14 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Yes, he certainly hired more, mostly mentally disabled candidates, something he struggles with too as you no doubt know. LOL

 

 

Suuure. A tweet with truncated bits of text, without source, and posted by the famous Debra M... is a reliable evidence! 

16 minutes ago, illisdean said:

More of the same.

 

 

Idem. 

37 minutes ago, bannork said:

Thank god Biden increased the numbers.

Be thankful of the voters MANDATE

 

Trump can and will fix Biden's destruction and failures. He's already started, 11 days in with remarkable achievements. 

 

 

Just now, illisdean said:

Be thankful of the voters MANDATE

 

Trump can and will fix Biden's destruction and failures. He's already started, 11 days in with remarkable achievements. 

 

 

Looking good down south....

 

 

28 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Be more thankful Bidens reign of destruction is over.

 

 

If you believe the FAA employed people with intellectual disabilities to actually work as air traffic controllers, then:

1. Why has there been no civil airline accidents since 2008? duh! 

2. Do you seriously believe the FAA would actually employ in control towers people with intellectual disabilities?

Dumb and dumber.