1 minute ago, Isaan sailor said:

The US does grow rice already—very large, efficient farms.

 

Correct. It seems to be beyond the comprehension of many members that the point of tariffs, beyond punishing the country involved, is to change supply chains. Thailand's loss could be a domestic agricultural boost for US farmers, or more likely a boost for other rice growing nations exports.

 

The only time it becomes a major problem for consumers is when the product cannot be sourced elsewhere. 

5 hours ago, John Drake said:

Maybe joining BRICS was such a good idea after all.

Which country are you referencing?   Why should their membership require 100% US tariffs on Thailand?

6 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

No, BRICS was formed after the USD was weaponised, other gotnwise to us bullying and hegemony.

Slapping economic sanction countries and people that don't agree to your demands is the the very definition of authoritarian/ dictatorship 

 

Whatever the faults of Joe Biden and/or Donald Trump, I would much rather live in a world that their America dominated, rather than one in which Xi, Putin, Khamenei, Kim Jong Un, and even the dictator in waiting, Modi, exercised dominant power.

5 hours ago, John Drake said:

 

hah, hah, hah. Thailand has an irreplaceable trade surplus with the US. 

Hah, hah, hah, Thailand is not a BRICS member.

1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Which country are you referencing?   Why should their membership require 100% US tariffs on Thailand?

 

Because that was what Trump said he would do, if they didn't make a commitment to backing the dollar.

Just now, Liverpool Lou said:

Hah, hah, hah, Thailand is not a BRICS member.

 

It's a BRICS "partner country" that wants full membership by this August.

 

4 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

It's a replay of Japan, Germany, Italy and the smaller axis partners, Rumania, Hungary, and even the Indian collaborators of the Indian National Army.

 

Man, you're going deep there, mentioning the Indian collaborators. Quite a few graves in Kanchanaburi could testify to that treachery. 

5 hours ago, John Drake said:

It's joining BRICS.

Not as a member country, just a partner, big difference.

Here's a question - what do you think would happen to Thai domestic politics if the USA imposed tariffs, and other nations followed? 

 

The ramifications are immense. 

3 minutes ago, John Drake said:

5 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Hah, hah, hah, Thailand is not a BRICS member.

 

It's a BRICS "partner country" that wants full membership by this August.

It's a BRICS "partner country". 

3 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

Whatever the faults of Joe Biden and/or Donald Trump, I would much rather live in a world that their America dominated, rather than one in which Xi, Putin, Khamenei, Kim Jong Un, and even the dictator in waiting, Modi, exercised dominant power.

None of those countries mentioned have has any adverse effect on my live to date. 

10 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

It's a replay of Japan, Germany, Italy and the smaller axis partners, Rumania, Hungary, and even the Indian collaborators of the Indian National Army.

India are like the Thai equivalent of a butterfly they will just join anything as long as it's good for them.

The rest apartfrom Japan are NATO.

Again was reading something the other day the Japanese are actively rearming themselves from the pacifist nation they became after the war and who can blame them, the US mostly support them and China is only a few miles from them, and NK keep on testing missiles over them!

1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said:

It's a BRICS "partner country". 

 

With the goal of becoming a full member in August. See my link above.

5 minutes ago, theblether said:

Here's a question - what do you think would happen to Thai domestic politics if the USA imposed tariffs, and other nations followed? 

 

The ramifications are immense. 

 

If the US only applied reciprocal tariffs and the same limitations on import control that Thailand does, then Thailand would collapse. Thailand has a $10 billion trade surplus with the US, while it has a trade deficit with China of about the same amount. If that $10 gets dented, then Thailand is in trouble. There is nothing that Thailand makes that the US absolutely must have.

2 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

If the US only applied reciprocal tariffs and the same limitations on import control that Thailand does, then Thailand would collapse. Thailand has a $10 billion trade surplus with the US, while it has a trade deficit with China of about the same amount. If that $10 gets dented, then Thailand is in trouble. There is nothing that Thailand makes that the US absolutely must have.

Agreed.  Nothing, except perhaps good Isaan sum tam.

2 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

If the US only applied reciprocal tariffs and the same limitations on import control that Thailand does, then Thailand would collapse. Thailand has a $10 billion trade surplus with the US, while it has a trade deficit with China of about the same amount. If that $10 gets dented, then Thailand is in trouble. There is nothing that Thailand makes that the US absolutely must have.

 

Correct. I fear many members, especially the anti-Trump types of this forum, have no idea of the implications to Thailand of these potential tariffs. And the USA wouldn't miss a beat. 

 

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said:

Agreed.  Nothing, except perhaps good Isaan sum tam.

Or Haribo's and Lays that I was discussing in another topic yesterday, it is Thai food as it has Thai writing on the packets if bought from 7/11 sweet and salty at the same time, thread cross contamination apologies 🤪

1 minute ago, theblether said:

 

Correct. I fear many members, especially the anti-Trump types of this forum, have no idea of the implications to Thailand of these potential tariffs. And the USA wouldn't miss a beat. 

 

 

 

 

 

I wonder how many hotshots in Thailand, even on this forum, work for companies here that would be devastated by tariffs. A little bit of the guffawing might be those guys getting ready for the unemployment line.

Hands in the air if you are working in Thailand (I don't work for the RD :)) or for that matter work at all, just in case any RD on the thread 🤣

If you have a business and are selling to the US then yeah that might be an issue, but reckon exporting from Thailand has many other options if advertising is done correctly, the US isn't the only country or market in the world that imports, also Thailand likes to be friends with everyone despite it's over military influenced government.

Going to get my Haribo's and Lays they let me out of my cell for all my defamation posts!

21 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

I wonder how many hotshots in Thailand, even on this forum, work for companies here that would be devastated by tariffs. A little bit of the guffawing might be those guys getting ready for the unemployment line.

 

They truly don't understand the implications of 25% tariffs never mind 100%.

 

I'm in the habit of quoting "you'll get a lifetimes education from an uneducated rice farmers daughter." 

 

Wait to you see her fathers reaction when his rice is tariffed out of the market. You'll get a real education on Thai domestic politics then. 

 

2 hours ago, theblether said:

 

Oh, dear oh dear oh dear. I knew you'd fall for that. You are so gullible its beyond belief. 

 

Do you sincerely believe that Thailand was not under the economic watchlist during the Bush and Obama years too? I specifically mentioned 2005 and 2013. But - just to show up your level of stupidity - here's a link to Thailand being found a currency manipulator by Biden's administration. 

 

https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/general/2101043/bot-shrugs-off-us-currency-watchlist-tag

 

 

 

You claimed Thailand has long been on the watchlist. In fact, it doesn't look like it has been on that list for several years:\

.https://iasbaba.com/2022/11/currency-monitoring-list-of-usa/

I can find on evidence that it is on the list for 2022 or afterwards.

 

 

50 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You claimed Thailand has long been on the watchlist. In fact, it doesn't look like it has been on that list for several years:\

.https://iasbaba.com/2022/11/currency-monitoring-list-of-usa/

I can find on evidence that it is on the list for 2022 or afterwards.

 

 

 

Have you been away researching that? dear me. 

 

Let me help you - it was deigned a non-manipulator in 2022. No longer part of the 16 countries on the watchlist. However, it is examined every year and the Feds move it up and down according to Bank Of Thailand actions.  It is permanently watched. 

 

You know, there's a limit as to how much I want to engage with digital dementors, you've reached it. In this thread you have stated that Thailand was never on a watchlist, you brought up irrelevant human trafficking, demanded a link to a watchlist. So I submitted the link. Then you........

 

Moaned that it was a "dying days of Trump's admin issue," then:

 

Ignored a link where it was proved that Biden's admin also put Thailand on the list.

 

You've seen a link to the debacle of 1997, and been referred to 2005 Bush and 2013 Obama issues with Thailand ( and boy, I could open up on those ) and now you're away on a full gibber mode about "I can't find"............

 

Just be quiet. 

 

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

Have you been away researching that? dear me. 

 

Let me help you - it was deigned a non-manipulator in 2022. No longer part of the 16 countries on the watchlist. However, it is examined every year and the Feds move it up and down according to Bank Of Thailand actions. 

 

You know, there's a limit as to how much I want to engage with digital dementors, you've reached it. In this thread you have stated that Thailand was never on a watchlist, you brought up irrelevant human trafficking, demanded a link to a watchlist. So I submitted the link. Then you........

 

Moaned that it was a "dying days of Trump's admin issue," then:

 

Ignored a link where it was proved that Biden's admin also put Thailand on the list.

 

You've seen a link to the debacle of 1997, and been referred to 2005 Bush and 2013 Obama issues with Thailand ( and boy, I could open up on those ) and now you're away on a full gibber mode about "I can't find"............

 

Just be quiet. 

 

 

 

 

And you claimed that Thailand has long been on the watchlist. And you failed to note that there are automatic criteria for being put on the watchlist that don't necessarily indicate anything suspect is going on.

So much for the OP, and the thread.  Better news source provide better info.  Storm in a teacup, I think is the saying ... 

 

 

 

I will never understand why Thailand joined BRICS! They are so dependent on the US and European market that joining BRICS was like throwing a stone in the head of Trump! I find the Thai government so ignorant at times. Joining something that would be led by Russia, Iran and China, the worst dictatorships in the world, is so foolish and out of touch with realities in todays world! 😫

The sooner the better!  

15 hours ago, billd766 said:

What Trump does not seem to understand is that 100% tariffs are a two way thing. If the USA under Trump wants to impose the tariffs, he can do so, but other countries can also do the same to the USA.

Trump would like that, IMO. I think he's isolationist and doesn't care about world trade. Whether that is a good idea is irrelevant to him. He wants everything made in the US, so no need for imports.

It's not like he hasn't been saying that for years.

If one had been paying attention, one would know that.

8 hours ago, theblether said:

Just be quiet. 

Good advice.

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Trump would like that, IMO. I think he's isolationist and doesn't care about world trade. Whether that is a good idea is irrelevant to him. He wants everything made in the US, so no need for imports.

It's not like he hasn't been saying that for years.

If one had been paying attention, one would know that.

You give him too much credit for having a coherent ideology. He has no such thing.

He's the greatest con man the world has ever known. He thrives on creating chaos and then claiming credit for fake fixing crises he has created. What he's doing is about the one thing he does care about. All attention on him. All power to him. He cares nothing about any people except for himself. He's a dangerous monster and it's still shocking how many people fail to see that. 

Trump is ignorant and stupid enough to do anything, as we have seen recently.