13 hours ago, Dan O said:

Its up to Ukraine and Russia to make the decisions. Yes other countries can facilitate (especially the EU)  and assist but its not the place of Trump to think he controls whats best for Ukraine and make those decisions 

Perhaps then Ukraine can carry on without the US support, if, as you say, they make the decisions.

 

He who pays the piper chooses the tune.

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Perhaps then Ukraine can carry on without the US support, if, as you say, they make the decisions.

 

He who pays the piper chooses the tune.

But Trump and the USA do NOT pay for even half of the support.

 

So why does Trump, who is lying as usual demand that HE and the USA plus Russia will decide that the war, which it is, in the Ukraine will end when HE decides, without the participation of the Ukraine?

6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Perhaps then Ukraine can carry on without the US support, if, as you say, they make the decisions.

 

He who pays the piper chooses the tune.

In what imaginary world do you live in that a 3rd party country not involved in a war gets to make the peace deal decision without involving the country that is actually being  attacked  ?

 

As for paying the piper we only provided about 40% of the funding ( and not the amount trump claims) for equipment and armormemt and most all those dollars were paid to US arms suppliers. 

 

I think Zelensky showed he's not letting the USA take advantage today in the oval office. You must be very proud of the two a$$hats representing the USA in that discussion in front of the media in the oval office. They showed not only the lack of intellect but lack of political awareness and diplomatic understanding and experience