1 hour ago, DonniePeverley said:

Vance stirred it up. He loved it. I've seen guys like that love feeling clever. He's probably been feeling left out Musk has taken headlines. 

 

He's completely the wrong vice president to tame in Trump's nuttiness. Pence the previous Vice president did that, and reigned Trump in. Vance will just stir it some more. He plays the media game. 

 

Came to Europe lecturing about free speech, when his own boss has sued plenty of people for saying things about him, eg Bill Maher (go read up on it) - where was the free speech then ? 

 

Saying that Zalensky should have stayed quiet - as you cannot reason with idiots like this. 

Yes idiots like you and Zelensky.

Come on Rubio, live up to your former words. Resign 

 

9 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Decent American presidents don't wildly exaggerate (LIE) the actual amount of funding, fail to acknowledge how much of it actually was spent in America, and lie about the nature of European aid claiming they were loans, not grants.

Decent American presidents don't try to pressure victims of aggressors to pay reparations to America, and not asking the aggressor nation to pay one ruple of reparations. 

Trump in a very short term has brought the international reputation of the U.S. as low as it's ever been and the damage is probably permanent. 

If he's not an FSB agent, he may as well be, because he's be the best one in Russian history.

Blaming trump for ending the war instead of blaming the dems. The blood is on Bidens hands no amount of virtue signalling can change this. EU is so <deleted>

3 minutes ago, hotsun said:

Blaming trump for ending the war instead of blaming the dems. The blood is on Bidens hands no amount of virtue signalling can change this. EU is so <deleted>

Bizarre post.

How do you know Trump is going to end the war?

As far as Biden, that's not the topic here, but I have criticized him before for not doing enough early enough because if he had, Ukraine could have actually won this war years ago. He just did enough for them to hang on. 

1 hour ago, hotsun said:

Are you saying free speech exists in europe?

Stupid question. There are degrees of freedom of speech. In Russia there's a lot less than there is in the EU. Public criticism of the Russian government is virtually taboo. Even the US has restrictions on free speech. The federal government has cracked down on using certain words or phrases in documents released by the government.

1 hour ago, hotsun said:

But a million times less than the US. Vance was referring to that

 

Utter nonsense. The sheer volume of litigation lawsuits in the USA for things people have said, would suggest there is no free speech there either. Trump himself tried to sue Bill Maher for calling him a orangatan - where was the free speech then? Go google that lawsuit. 

 

There is free speech in Europe, just not hate speech - eg, racism, anti semitism, homophobia, etc 

 

What they say when they want to free speech. what they actually mean is they want the right to be racist. Well sorry, but i rather live in a harmonious society than allow manipulated idiots to be racist.

 

JD Vance doesn't really talk about free speech in Russia dose he ?

5 minutes ago, bannork said:

Come on Rubio, live up to your former words. Resign 

 

Rubio sold his soul.

His lame rationale for staying in is wanting power of course, but also thinking if he leaves, he'll be replaced with someone worse.

But that's stupid.

Anyone in that role needs to be a Trump lackey.

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

just did enough for them to hang on. 

 

So then begs the question.....why just enough to hang on. 

2 minutes ago, DonniePeverley said:

 

Utter nonsense. The sheer volume of litigation lawsuits in the USA for things people have said, would suggest there is no free speech there either. Trump himself tried to sue Bill Maher for calling him a orangatan - where was the free speech then? Go google that lawsuit. 

 

There is free speech in Europe, just not hate speech - eg, racism, anti semitism, homophobia, etc 

 

What they say when they want to free speech. what they actually mean is they want the right to be racist. Well sorry, but i rather live in a harmonious society than allow manipulated idiots to be racist.

 

JD Vance doesn't really talk about free speech in Russia dose he ?

Vance is American duuh

Donald Trump acts like a mafia Don.

It makes sense because that's the crowd he was dealing with in business in Queens.

 

Voices: Zelensky has laid bare the ugly truth about Trump, the Godfather President

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Bizarre post.

How do you know Trump is going to end the war?

As far as Biden, that's not the topic here, but I have criticized him before for not doing enough early enough because if he had, Ukraine could have actually won this war years ago. He just did enough for them to hang on. 

By agreeing on mineral rights which all 3 parties want duuuh

Just now, Jingthing said:

Donald Trump acts like a mafia Don.

It makes sense because that's the crowd he was dealing with in business in Queens.

 

Voices: Zelensky has laid bare the ugly truth about Trump, the Godfather President

Says the guy who supports Nazis

44 minutes ago, bannork said:

Obama conducted a survey of the minerals during his tenure and concluded financially it wasn't worth extracting them.

Obama wasn't in a trade war with China, so got what he needed from there.

4 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

So then begs the question.....why just enough to hang on. 

Some of us know why. Seems some don't.

 

Hint- same as CIA Afghanistan policy.

DJ Vance have you been to Ukraine ...Watched it on TikTok what a <deleted> 🤔

1 minute ago, sammieuk1 said:

DJ Vance have you been to Ukraine ...Watched it on TikTok what a <deleted> 🤔

When did you go there? 

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Some of us know why. Seems some don't.

 

Hint- same as CIA Afghanistan policy.

 

I wonder what Blackrock has to say about all of this. 

2 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:

DJ Vance have you been to Ukraine ...Watched it on TikTok what a <deleted> 🤔

Yes, a total <deleted>.

Just now, Jingthing said:

Yes, a total <deleted>.

When did you serve in the military?

24 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

If he's not an FSB agent, he may as well be

I don't think he is an Russian agent, but it now seams like hi is a Russian asset. Or a total idiot.

Very troubled times ahead.

What comes next is now the question. Zelenskyy took on Trump in the Oval Office and lost. This was the time to bring an end to the war and Zelenskyy should have acted accordingly. All up it became very undignified from both sides. 

What I saw there is Zelensky being a grub. Playing up to msm and being rude to Trump like all the lefty grubs on the internet. Biden/Obama stuffed up not Trump/Vance. 

 

Without Trump's help 1m more Ukrainians die.

Just now, bokningar said:

I don't think he is an Russian agent, but it now seams like hi is a Russian asset. Or a total idiot.

Very troubled times ahead.

On top of that he put Tulsi Gabbard a known Putin boot licker to head the U.S. intelligence agency. Allies (correction -- FORMER allies) will not be sharing key intelligence with the U.S. anymore with the rational fear that it will be leaked to the Kremlin.

Very scary times indeed.

5 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

When did you go there? 

Same time as the idiot Vance🤔

 

1 minute ago, sammieuk1 said:

Same time as the idiot Vance🤔

 

Vance is not the idiot getting his country smashed up and people killed. How dumb can you lefties be?

2 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

What I saw there is Zelensky being a grub. Playing up to msm and being rude to Trump like all the lefty grubs on the internet. Biden/Obama stuffed up not Trump/Vance. 

 

Without Trump's help 1m more Ukrainians die.

What I saw was two idiots put in their place with facts by a hero 🤔

 

This is for all the right wing supporters of Israel who who back Trump when it comes to Ukraine. 

"Imagine if, when Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel came to the White House this month, Trump and Vance told him that the war with Hamas had gone on too long, too many lives had been lost and it was costing America too much money, so it was time for Bibi and the Israeli people to do a deal with the Hamas aggressor.

Because Russia did to Ukraine on Feb. 24, 2022, what Hamas did to Israel on Oct. 7, 2023 — a surprise invasion, murder and the ensuing sexual violence to wreak destruction on another nation and its society. Trump took Bibi’s side 110 percent against Hamas, and now he is taking Putin’s side 110 percent against Zelensky and Ukraine."

https://archive.ph/0R3B0

 

Actually the case is even worse since, unlike Russia, Hamas never had a chance of destroying Israel

 

 

 

Just now, sammieuk1 said:

What I saw was two idiots put in their place with facts by a hero 🤔

 

No hero. A little man whingeing about Biden and Obama. Trump and Vance put the grub in his place.

 

 

18 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Vance is American duuh

Another low IQ comment. Was Vance not an American when he criticized the diminution of free speech in Europe?

Just now, placeholder said:

Another low IQ comment. Was Vance not an American when he criticized the diminution of free speech in Europe?

Says the pensioner online.