2 hours ago, blaze master said:

 

Stop it with your pathetic grandstanding. I've also made it clear on so many occasions that I not a Trump supporter. Yet people like you seem unable to comprehend such a basic concept. 

 

Leave it to you to bring Trump into everything as well. You have the syndrome indeed.

 

The forum was better when your kind ran away.

With a handle of blaze master and you say I’m grandstanding lmao now that’s funny 😄 

On 3/22/2025 at 11:37 PM, swissie said:

The "boomers" were too young for the Korean/Vietnamese war.

we were for the Korean war but we were the right age for Vietnam.

On 3/23/2025 at 12:14 AM, Kinnock said:

OK .... so 2 years of conscription before the war ended, and average age of Vietnam soldiers was 19.

 

But I thought the definition of Boomers starts in 1946 ... so plenty of time for US  oomers to serve in Vietnam, and of course Vietnamese Boomers also fought in the war.

baby boomers born 1946-64.  Called boomers due to high birth rate after close of WW2.  Had lots of friends (my age) go to Vietnam.  Couple returned in box, sadly.

On 3/22/2025 at 10:04 PM, swissie said:

Hello fellow "boomers". I think it's time for us to realise in what "golden age" most of us lived. An age where most "little people" were able to improve their financial standing. With the outlook of a financially secure old age. We diden't have to fight in any disastrous wars like generations before us had to. And we live longer than our grandparents.

 

We should be thankful.

 

The "new age" that is now dawning is more than worriesome. Generations can handle 1 or 2 major problems. But the multitude of problems at our doorstep will likely surpass the capability of humans to handle the multitude of major problems all at the same time.

 

I myself find being an old man is not that great. But at least I have some sort of "solace". Hopefully, I will have passed the "pearly gates" before king Chaos will reighn the world once more.

 

So, fellow boomers, thankfullness and gratefullness is in order. We were truly born into a historical "window of opportunity" that is rare in history.

 

Some boomers and subsequent generations did fight in wars in different areas of course while most of the home countries of the expats here did not suffer as much.

On 3/22/2025 at 11:18 PM, blaze master said:

Thank you for also selling out my generation and future. We really appreciate it. 

education systems in much of the develped world did not educate those generations after the boomers for this economy and in the US anyway, politicians enticed students to take out loans that can never be repaid.  A sad story for sure and I don't see it getting much better anytime soon.  But good luck to all here

On 3/22/2025 at 11:37 PM, swissie said:

The "boomers" were too young for the Korean/Vietnamese war.

Where have you been,VN was fought 1964 to 1974 and that is the right age for baby boomers - yeah, the Korean war was over (on paper) by the time boomers were old enough to become soldiers.

13 hours ago, Lacessit said:

IMO the wealth inequality which exists now never existed during my childhood. Sure, executives were well paid, but never the ridiculous amounts they are paid now. No one is worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

 

In the early 70's I was a small cog in a mining company. I paid off my house mortgage in 18 months. That is impossible for the average worker now.

 

I agree with the OP, we lived in a golden age where honesty, integrity and hard work were rewarded. It does make me wonder what went wrong.

Now there are BILLIONAIRES! over 500 were created in the US alone during the COVID pandemic!  nowadays, in the UK it was reported (can google it for proof) that a rich family relocated from the UK to Dubai due to the taxes or lack thereof in the Middle East!

11 hours ago, placeholder said:

You mean a coward like Donald Trump?

Yessir, Clinton, Bush (Texas Air National Guard so he didn't have to go to the war), Obama, Biden (draft dodger too) and Trump - all useless bu all helped or assisted in destroying our economy as for me, 10 years doing the VN war bit with many years in VN)

On 3/22/2025 at 10:04 PM, swissie said:

Hello fellow "boomers". I think it's time for us to realise in what "golden age" most of us lived. An age where most "little people" were able to improve their financial standing. With the outlook of a financially secure old age. We diden't have to fight in any disastrous wars like generations before us had to. And we live longer than our grandparents.

 

We should be thankful.

 

The "new age" that is now dawning is more than worriesome. Generations can handle 1 or 2 major problems. But the multitude of problems at our doorstep will likely surpass the capability of humans to handle the multitude of major problems all at the same time.

 

I myself find being an old man is not that great. But at least I have some sort of "solace". Hopefully, I will have passed the "pearly gates" before king Chaos will reighn the world once more.

 

So, fellow boomers, thankfullness and gratefullness is in order. We were truly born into a historical "window of opportunity" that is rare in history.

 

 

I think you will find Vietnam was a pretty disastrous war, and a total defeat.

8 hours ago, kwonitoy said:

 

You've got bootstraps, pull yourself up.

Just like us boomers did

Unfortunately for those generations after the boomers' the education of generations was for that type economy which deteriorated greatly and didn't prepare them for today's economies.  Even those that were AI beginners, they created bots/machines that forced those educated out of a job!  Japan died with Trump's re-manufacturing plan and now has switched to all the successful economies offering services!

3 hours ago, Tug said:

Am I still detecting some blubbering and a bit of sniffling lol typical of the magga types allways blaming others for problems,I’m more interested in solutions fair and equitable ones not ones designed to hurt others all achieved within the framework of our democracy not by decree.

Yeah, Japan tried the re-manufacturing, shut down all imports of products and it destroyed the Japanese economy totally!  Now they have switched to the successes of the developed world - services and are moving ahead again!  Trump and the US could look at Japan and give up that re-manufacturing plan.  Though Trump is really too old to even see it to fruition nor does he care just so he can sit on the Throne!

5 minutes ago, proton said:

 

I think you will find Vietnam was a pretty disastrous war, and a total defeat.

Yeah whenever a negotiator gives up anything of importance just to get out of a situation i.e. Trump and the Taliban too as he must have learned from HENRY kISSINGER the art of negotiating just to get out of a situation and blame it on others.  MHO anyway as a VN vet involved in that fiasco for 10 years.

every generation has pros and cons

20sthings can work off a laptop and travel the world / make money on youtube ... that wasn't possible in previous generations

 

 

On 3/23/2025 at 8:27 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Blame your own generation for that. We gave you everything needed for a utopia and your lot were too greedy.

Paradise was lost when Kennedy was assassinated and the b'tards started Vietnam.

You gotta admit though, Thailand hasn't really changed in 30 years..ok not Samui etc but generally Thailand is same same and hardly anymore expensive. If you didn't look at the news, you could stay in the last century without any of this woke, jihad, immigration crap...it simply does not exist here. 

But thanks for what exactly? Bleeding the world dry? Another reason to despise boomers… the three biggest a-holes currently holding the world to ransom are of this generation. Of course one cannot blame all and have many great friends and family in this age bracket, but just can’t hack that air of superiority while giving F all back. Would sooner have the woke gens front and centre and that’s saying something. Time to move over, give us all a break yeah. 😉

57 minutes ago, Presnock said:

education systems in much of the develped world did not educate those generations after the boomers for this economy and in the US anyway, politicians enticed students to take out loans that can never be repaid.  A sad story for sure and I don't see it getting much better anytime soon.  But good luck to all here

Yeah, it was sad the way educators abandoned math, science and civics. 

43 minutes ago, Presnock said:

Yeah, Japan tried the re-manufacturing, shut down all imports of products and it destroyed the Japanese economy totally!  Now they have switched to the successes of the developed world - services and are moving ahead again!  Trump and the US could look at Japan and give up that re-manufacturing plan.  Though Trump is really too old to even see it to fruition nor does he care just so he can sit on the Throne!

What is the birthrate in Japan? 

17 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

What is the birthrate in Japan? 

negative last I heard and also a restriction on immigration

On 3/23/2025 at 12:52 AM, swissie said:

Never mind when the "boomer generation" exactly started. We had 80 years of peace and a certain amount of prosperity for most. 80 years of this constellation is very rare in history.

 

Since recorded European history, only in some 300 years Europe was totally free of any wars. Cumulatively.

 

Historically, we have lived in a rare "peace bubble", combined with incresing prosperity for most.

 

That is the essence of this thread. I personally am grateful that I was born at the right time at the right place.

 

When you say "we" you don't consider all the wars in other places of the world. You and me maybe fine but there are still many millions of people suffering from continuous wars and oppression

 

I am 80 years old now and have never known world peace - that is distressing!!

 

 

 

20 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Yeah, it was sad the way educators abandoned math, science and civics. 

yeah they continued teaching/training kids to come out of school and go to the factories which disappeared many years ago.  Locally all continued to expand govt offices and taxes but the average joe couldn't afford even buying a house anymore.  Sad for sure.  

46 minutes ago, baansgr said:

You gotta admit though, Thailand hasn't really changed in 30 years..ok not Samui etc but generally Thailand is same same and hardly anymore expensive. If you didn't look at the news, you could stay in the last century without any of this woke, jihad, immigration crap...it simply does not exist here. 

Yeah at least for the expats, I feel it hasn't changed all that much since the early 70's - yeah, getting around Bangkok is much easier with the trains but pollution still sucks.

4 minutes ago, Presnock said:

yeah they continued teaching/training kids to come out of school and go to the factories which disappeared many years ago. 

People that worked in factories were taught math, science and civics.

4 minutes ago, Presnock said:

Locally all continued to expand govt offices and taxes but the average joe couldn't afford even buying a house anymore.  Sad for sure.  

80% of married couples own their own home. 

 

Families are smaller and homes are bigger than ever. 

2 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Or Joe Biden, and Bill Clinton?

 

2 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Or Joe Biden, and Bill Clinton?

Take it up with Connda     He's the self-righteous as##### who made the moral judgement on those who don't serve in the military, 

On 3/22/2025 at 11:37 PM, swissie said:

The "boomers" were too young for the Korean/Vietnamese war.

Hate to tell you this, but

 Vietnam had a hell of a lot of us boomers fighting over there

On 3/22/2025 at 12:37 PM, daveAustin said:

Yes, why not pat yourselves on the back! You guys are in total deniaL. The golden age was the generation before yours btw, a people that had balls and scruples. The boomer generation must be the most contemptible, needy and weak of any. They never fought a proper war and had the world handed to them on a plate, and at the same time have reaped MASSIVE pensions and property etc. Shame on you!!

Define what you mean by a "proper war"?

On 3/22/2025 at 11:37 PM, swissie said:

The "boomers" were too young for the Korean/Vietnamese war.

Ah, no. "boomer" here born in 1947. American and so Vietnam was my American generation's major war (not officially declared). I did not participate but mourn the 58K American dead as well as, other Aiilies and yes ... the Vietnamese people on both sides of their national war.

29 minutes ago, Grumpy one said:

Hate to tell you this, but

 Vietnam had a hell of a lot of us boomers fighting over there

 

Off on a tangent here ..

 

According to a brief internet search, there were 2.7 - 3.1 million American military personnel, that were there, participating in the Vietnam war.  If you include the non Vietnamese militaries, there were a lot more too. 

Also, between 9 and 12 million people claim to have been there, participating in the Vietnam war.  

 

I am guessing that half of the 9 - 12 million Americans that claim/claimed they were there, cannot prove they were there, because their service there was ... dum, dum, dum, dummmmmmmm, classified "TOP SECRET"!!!! 

 

I get a chuckle, sometimes, about those classified claims.  I had to have a TOP SECRET clearance before I could start my MOS training.   My MOS school notebook was classified SECRET with a CODE WORD.  But what I was training to be, was not classified. 

 

 What I did in Vietnam was not classified, just the product of the works was classified and nowadays, much of that has been declassified too.   (for those that don't know and get upset with upper case words,  the words CONFIDENTIAL, SECRET, and TOP SECRET, when properly used to classify a document, are always written in upper case font)

On 3/22/2025 at 11:52 PM, swissie said:

To me, true "boomers" were born between 1955 and 1970.

OK, for you so noted. Historically it involves those born as a result of the "Baby Boom" brought on after the ending of WW II (that would be the end in both Europe and Asian fighting).

On 3/22/2025 at 4:04 PM, swissie said:

Hello fellow "boomers". I think it's time for us to realise in what "golden age" most of us lived. An age where most "little people" were able to improve their financial standing. With the outlook of a financially secure old age. We diden't have to fight in any disastrous wars like generations before us had to. And we live longer than our grandparents.

 

We should be thankful.

 

You can say that again, leveraging pensions off of the backs of the next two generations to come the baby boomers have done very well for themselves. Sadly the young generations to come will have to pay off the good life had by all the baby boomers.

On 3/22/2025 at 9:27 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

Blame your own generation for that. We gave you everything needed for a utopia and your lot were too greedy.

Paradise was lost when Kennedy was assassinated and the b'tards started Vietnam.

Kennedy started Vietnam.   

 

Some of the people I worked with, from late 1970 through early 1973, had a tour or two, in Vietnam starting in 1960!