Thanks to Donald, finally we know.

[swissie]

Finally it's official. US products in international markets are not competitive. Remedy: Impose tariffs.

 

Indeed: Outside of Silicone Valley not much "innovation" had it's origin in the US. There is a Chinese Automaker that registers 45 new patents EVERY DAY.

 

Without the steady stream of foreighn buyers of T-Bills and T-Bonds, the American Dream would have run out of gas a long time ago. Reserve currency etc etc etc...

[Cameroni]

What about GPS?

 

Pretty innovative.

 

The internet?

[Jingthing]

Well we do know that Donald Trump has committed the most momentous own goal against his own country ever. The damage to the American brand is permanent. OK, I'm now an older gentleman but if I was a young American I would seriously be looking into expatriating to a nation with a sane government to build my future. The  USA is now a quicksand country. Empires come. Empites go. But they don't have to go so rapidly by intentional national SUICIDE. 

[swissie]

56 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Well we do know that Donald Trump has committed the most momentous own goal against his own country ever. The damage to the American brand is permanent. OK, I'm now an older gentleman but if I was a young American I would seriously be looking into expatriating to a nation with a sane government to build my future. The  USA is now a quicksand country. Empires come. Empites go. But they don't have to go so rapidly by intentional national SUICIDE. 

Looking at the past, some Empires have lasted for centuries. The Empire of the US truly only strated after WW2, with is's undamageged economic power, whlile the rest of the world lay in ashes.

 

A short lived empire, historically. The Chinese waiting in the wings.

 

Never mind. Half of my American friends did not vote for Donald. There is hope and the next congressional elections are only 2 years away.

[Jingthing]

It's always been Putin's propaganda line to assert that there are no grounds to criticize him because the USA is just as bad. I'm saddened to say that the Trump version of the USA is trending towards being even worse.

[swissie]

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

What about GPS?

 

Pretty innovative.

 

The internet?

All Silicone Valley stuff.

[CallumWK]

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

The internet?

 

I assume you mean the worldwide web, as we know it, which was invented by a Brit

[Keeps]

I predict that he will be ousted, somehow, within the next 18 months. I do not necessarily hope this happens, merely a prediction. I'm not American but his recent exploits have cost many financially. Only on paper though for myself at the moment so no major concerns....yet... probably a fair bit of pain to come 

[kwonitoy]

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

What about GPS?

 

Pretty innovative.

 

The internet?

 

How much revenue does GPS generate?

[jimmybcool]

5 minutes ago, Keeps said:

I predict that he will be ousted, somehow, within the next 18 months. I do not necessarily hope this happens, merely a prediction. I'm not American but his recent exploits have cost many financially. Only on paper though for myself at the moment so no major concerns....yet... probably a fair bit of pain to come 

 

Weird prediction.  I recall predictions Obama would be assassinated.  Or Biden would step down.  Trump will serve until 2028 unless he suffers a medical emergency or dies.  No one is getting ousted just because one side doesn't like his policies.

[jimmybcool]

16 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

I assume you mean the worldwide web, as we know it, which was invented by a Brit

 

OK wanna expand on that?  This should be good.

[BigBilly]

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

What about GPS?

 

Pretty innovative

Shhh....All GPS around the world uses signals from US satelites for free.  Don't tell Trump that or he's gonna find a way to tax or block those signals outside the US.

[Jingthing]

11 minutes ago, jimmybcool said:

 

Weird prediction.  I recall predictions Obama would be assassinated.  Or Biden would step down.  Trump will serve until 2028 unless he suffers a medical emergency or dies.  No one is getting ousted just because one side doesn't like his policies.

He should be ousted but I don't know how that could happen.

A president can't be impeached for bad policies.

That said there are multiple impeachable offenses he has already committed and more to come. 

But it's ultimately about political will.

His approval rating would need to go down to the bare bones hard core maga fascist cult.

So a low of 30 percent.

Then enough republicans in the house and senate would need to step up and do the right thing. Possible perhaps if they saw personal political benefit from doing that.

I do predict MASSIVE STREET ACTIONS. It has already started this weekend. 

There will be millions protesting in DC sooner or later.

But I don't know how street actions can depose a US president.

He would likely call martial law and kill many of them.

That might add to the first scenario -- political pressure to impeach.

I'm only predicting the mass street actions. 100 percent confident in that part.

[BigBilly]

13 minutes ago, jimmybcool said:

Trump will serve until 2028 unless he suffers a medical emergency or dies.  No one is getting ousted just because one side doesn't like his policies.

He will certainly try to stay beyond 2028.  Probably by force of some sort.  He will be ousted at that point.

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, BigBilly said:

He will certainly try to stay beyond 2028.  Probably by force of some sort.  He will be ousted at that point.

He's not a well man physically or mentally. 2028? Hardly likely.

[NoDisplayName]

9 minutes ago, BigBilly said:

Shhh....All GPS around the world uses signals from US satelites for free.  Don't tell Trump that or he's gonna find a way to tax or block those signals outside the US.

America is losing its GPS dominance to China’s BeiDou satnav

Without question, the most significant rival comes from China, as the country is actively seeking to displace GPS as the world’s dominant satnav system and, in so doing, to increase its own soft power influence on the nations that use it. The National Space-Based Positioning, Navigation and Timing Advisory Board (PNTAB) warned that “GPS’s capabilities are now substantially inferior to those of China’s BeiDou” and urged the U.S. to regain PNT leadership over the next decade.

https://spacenews.com/america-losing-gps-dominance-china-beidou-satnav/   April 8, 2024

 

Winning!

 

 

[BigBilly]

Just now, Jingthing said:

2028? Hardly likely.

I hope you are right, but I don't see the republican sheep in congress stopping him.  It will take a real revolution of the people rising together to do it.

[NoDisplayName]

37 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

I assume you mean the worldwide web, as we know it, which was invented by a Brit

 

During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet.

 

~Al Gore, 1999

[swissie]

41 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

I assume you mean the worldwide web, as we know it, which was invented by a Brit

Yes, at Blaechly Park during WW2 by Alan Turing.  He could not have deciphered the German "Enigma-Code" without "early day computers".

The rest is Silicon Valley.

[jimmybcool]

14 minutes ago, swissie said:

Yes, at Blaechly Park during WW2 by Alan Turing.  He could not have deciphered the German "Enigma-Code" without "early day computers".

The rest is Silicon Valley.

 

A computer like Turings was stand alone.  The internet is a system for networking computers.  I have a little experience in it as my career was in networking in Silicon Valley for companies that had a hand in the development of various protocols that the internet functions on today.  My last company was bought out by Cisco Systems who some might have heard of.

 

This is not to belittle Turing.  He was a genius and ahead of his time.  But he had nothing to do with the internet.  At least not to my knowledge.  Never know.  I could be unaware of some development on paper he did that led to something in the internet today. 

[Mike_Hunt]

2 hours ago, swissie said:

Finally it's official. US products in international markets are not competitive. Remedy: Impose tariffs.

 

Indeed: Outside of Silicone Valley not much "innovation" had it's origin in the US. There is a Chinese Automaker that registers 45 new patents EVERY DAY.

 

Without the steady stream of foreighn buyers of T-Bills and T-Bonds, the American Dream would have run out of gas a long time ago. Reserve currency etc etc etc...

Tell us about the great innovation from Europe.  LOL..

[jimmybcool]

39 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

He should be ousted but I don't know how that could happen.

A president can't be impeached for bad policies.

That said there are multiple impeachable offenses he has already committed and more to come. 

But it's ultimately about political will.

His approval rating would need to go down to the bare bones hard core maga fascist cult.

So a low of 30 percent.

Then enough republicans in the house and senate would need to step up and do the right thing. Possible perhaps if they saw personal political benefit from doing that.

I do predict MASSIVE STREET ACTIONS. It has already started this weekend. 

There will be millions protesting in DC sooner or later.

But I don't know how street actions can depose a US president.

He would likely call martial law and kill many of them.

That might add to the first scenario -- political pressure to impeach.

I'm only predicting the mass street actions. 100 percent confident in that part.

 

I am curious what impeachable offenses he has already committed.  I mean I get it you hate him and would put a knife in his back if you could, but what has he actually done that is impeachable?

 

I am also unaware of massive street actions occurring today.  And come on, kill many protestors?  You need help.  This isn't Tienanmen Square. 

[jimmybcool]

37 minutes ago, BigBilly said:

He will certainly try to stay beyond 2028.  Probably by force of some sort.  He will be ousted at that point.

 

I remember idiot far lefties predicting the same exact think about GW Bush.  When will they learn and reach out to reality.

[Mike_Hunt]

42 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

He should be ousted but I don't know how that could happen.

A president can't be impeached for bad policies.

That said there are multiple impeachable offenses he has already committed and more to come. 

But it's ultimately about political will.

His approval rating would need to go down to the bare bones hard core maga fascist cult.

So a low of 30 percent.

Then enough republicans in the house and senate would need to step up and do the right thing. Possible perhaps if they saw personal political benefit from doing that.

I do predict MASSIVE STREET ACTIONS. It has already started this weekend. 

There will be millions protesting in DC sooner or later.

But I don't know how street actions can depose a US president.

He would likely call martial law and kill many of them.

That might add to the first scenario -- political pressure to impeach.

I'm only predicting the mass street actions. 100 percent confident in that part.

If you are going to use “fascist” in a sentence you should know what it means.  

[BigBilly]

5 minutes ago, jimmybcool said:

I remember idiot far lefties predicting the same exact think about GW Bush.  When will they learn and reach out to reality.

Somehow, I don't remember that.  And I don't remember Bush openly talking about staying for a third term as Trump is doing now.

[BigBilly]

9 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

If you are going to use “fascist” in a sentence you should know what it means.  

Most of the definition seems to describe the MAGA cult exactly.

 

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition

[still kicking]

9 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Tell us about the great innovation from Europe.  LOL..

I don't live in Europe Let's start with a few Australian ones 

60 Great Australian Inventions - Everywhere

[swissie]

25 minutes ago, jimmybcool said:

 

A computer like Turings was stand alone.  The internet is a system for networking computers.  I have a little experience in it as my career was in networking in Silicon Valley for companies that had a hand in the development of various protocols that the internet functions on today.  My last company was bought out by Cisco Systems who some might have heard of.

 

This is not to belittle Turing.  He was a genius and ahead of his time.  But he had nothing to do with the internet.  At least not to my knowledge.  Never know.  I could be unaware of some development on paper he did that led to something in the internet today. 

Alan Turing was classified as a Homosexual after the war. His career came to an end. He committed suicide.

 

The internet started, when a minor scientist working at the CERN in Switzerland in the late 60ties/early70ties started to wonder why should we not connect computers by telefone lines. That was the beginning of the internet. Far away from SIlicone Valley.

[swissie]

28 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Tell us about the great innovation from Europe.  LOL..

The steam engine, the combustion engine. Every machine replacing human "muscle". Even airplanes flew in Europe before the Wright brothers. (Otto von Liliental).

All this during a time, when the average US settler was busy chasing savage "Indians" in order to get them off "their land".  

[bendejo]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

It's always been Putin's propaganda line to assert that there are no grounds to criticize him because the USA is just as bad. I'm saddened to say that the Trump version of the USA is trending towards being even worse.

 

I definitely recall during DT's first term he said more than once "the US has done some bad things too" in relation to Russia.  Fox ignored it.  For the first time ever I thought "now is a time when we need O'Reilly"  but I doubt he'd have the guts to go anti-MAGA, and DT already has a devoted toilet hygiene servant (Sean H.).  In the Cold War era saying that would be branded defeatism and the hawks would call for anyone in US politics who said it to be burned at the stake.

Alas, when Hillary branded him "Putin's puppet" at that debate she should have gone in for the kill to his lame response, IMO that would have upset the whole MAGA sh_t show; I was watching it and was livid that she backed down, like a sports fan who just saw his quarterback drop the ball at the 50 yard line.  I support the Dems because they are the only non-conservatives with a chance of succeeding, but bringing a spoon to a knife-fight just doesn't do it -- that was my lesson from the 1988 presidential campaign.