10 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Trump is a public figure. So there's plenty of evidence out there for people to make all kinds of cases about Trump.

But the members of aseannow are anonymous.

If you've got evidence to show that Trump isn't an idiot, show it. But speculating about the emotions of people criticizing Trump is obviously just a way of making it personal without evidence.

 

I'm not "speculating about the emotions of people" dissing Trump. 

 

Nietzsche taught clearly you do not have resentments against anyone you view beneath you, only against those whom you consider your equals or superiors.

 

This is not a speculation. This is a fact. People who hate Trump have an inferiority complex and they view Trump as better than them. It's a fact.

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

I'm not "speculating about the emotions of people" dissing Trump. 

 

Nietzsche taught clearly you do not have resentments against anyone you view beneath you, only against those whom you consider your equals or superiors.

 

This is not a speculation. This is a fact. People who hate Trump have an inferiority complex and they view Trump as better than them. It's a fact.

Nice circular argument. 

Did Nietsche state that dislike or even hatred = resentment?

If someone does hateful things, do people  hate them only because of resentment?

You've got nothing.

 

3 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Nice circular argument. 

Did Nietsche state that dislike or even hatred = resentment?

If someone does hateful things, do people  hate them only because of resentment?

You've got nothing.

 

If you're a lefty and quoting national socialist dogma, it's probably true.

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

 

 

This is not a speculation. This is a fact. People who hate Trump have an inferiority complex and they view Trump as better than them. It's a fact.

Of course he is better than them. Of course they know it. The guy is a self made billionaire. Won Presidential elections three times. Successful careers across multiple areas. Bedding more porn stars and other tarty looking lasses than most of us can dream of - no buying buffalos or acting as the family ATM. Living rent free in the lefts heads 24/7. 

Some 75 year old barfly in Jomtien living in a 12k baht a month flop house thinks they are better than that?! Very funny.

10 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Nice circular argument. 

Did Nietsche state that dislike or even hatred = resentment?

If someone does hateful things, do people  hate them only because of resentment?

You've got nothing.

 

Hitler also a big fan of Nietsche.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

Oh yes, your "consumer protection" concern is very strong in the area where Australia has a major production capacity. What a coincidence!

 

Pull the other one.

 

It' s pure protectionism and market distortion. 320 million people eat US beef but it's not safe? Are you serious?

Australia does not have rabies. It does not have foot and mouth disease. It does not have bovine spongiform encephalopathy. The US has 2 out of 3.

 

US beef is not safe because it is feedlot crap. Australian beef is safe because it is free range, behind biosecurity barriers.

 

The latest undesirable import from America is fire ants.

 

Australia does not tariff any US goods. Its biosecurity laws are strict for good reason. The US has a 2:1 positive trade balance in its favor.

 

What the US has done to Australia has probably ensured the right-wing opposition is going to get wiped out in the forthcoming election.

 

Hopefully, the current government will tell Trump to <deleted> himself.

3 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Australia does not have rabies. It does not have foot and mouth disease. It does not have bovine spongiform encephalopathy. The US has 2 out of 3.

 

US beef is not safe because it is feedlot crap. Australian beef is safe because it is free range, behind biosecurity barriers.

 

The latest undesirable import from America is fire ants.

 

Australia does not tariff any US goods. Its biosecurity laws are strict for good reason. The US has a 2:1 positive trade balance in its favor.

 

What the US has done to Australia has probably ensured the right-wing opposition is going to get wiped out in the forthcoming election.

 

Hopefully, the current government will tell Trump to <deleted> himself.

Right wing 

 

Both major parties are almost the same

20 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Nice circular argument. 

Did Nietsche state that dislike or even hatred = resentment?

If someone does hateful things, do people  hate them only because of resentment?

You've got nothing.

 

 

Yes, that's exactly what he taught. Someone who is beneath you is not in a position to do a "hateful" thing that affects you, only those who are your equal or your superior can do that.

 

It's just resentment against someone you know is better than you. Just accept it. 

 

It's a fact.

12 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

It does not have bovine spongiform encephalopathy. The US has 2 out of 3.

 

Sure, the reason Australia stops US imports of ribeye is because they need to protect the purity of Australian cows. Only one problem with that argument - Your Australian cows can't catch BSE from a ribeye steak.

4 hours ago, seajae said:

Australia has a 10% tariff in the US, the US now has a 10% tariff on Australia, this is the case with most world countries, while it does mean adjustments in the market it evens out the playing field  making US made goods cheaper than imported ones for americans. The US companies it is effecting are the ones that produce overseas using cheap labour then getting extra tariff prices sending to the US, while sending US made overseas may drop buying US made in the US should increase.

 

 

That only works if there are US mfr making exportable goods the world wants at a price they can afford. Today's service economy in the US doesn't support that scenario very well and it will take quite a long time, if ever to rebuild the infrastructure in mfr to think about being competitive on the global stage. The cost of labor alone in the US is prohibitive to global mfr.

33 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I'm not "speculating about the emotions of people" dissing Trump. 

 

Nietzsche taught clearly you do not have resentments against anyone you view beneath you, only against those whom you consider your equals or superiors.

 

This is not a speculation. This is a fact. People who hate Trump have an inferiority complex and they view Trump as better than them. It's a fact.

That's the stupidist argument I've heard today.

3 minutes ago, Dan O said:

That's the stupidist argument I've heard today.

Yes, and he asserts it as fact. Another symptom of the post truth world we're living in now. Trump didn't create that but he's a YUGE result of it.

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Sure, the reason Australia stops US imports of ribeye is because they need to protect the purity of Australian cows. Only one problem with that argument - Your Australian cows can't catch BSE from a ribeye steak.

Err yes they can courtesy of Google AI Overview - but US Beef is not banned in Australia if it can be traced to be pure US Beef.  US Beef is often crossed with Canadian and Mexican stock and lacks traceability thus problems in imports.  Fun fact, before BSE, Australia did import some US Beef mainly for the restaurant chain Sizzlers.  But price and also safety concerns have negated any exports since.

 

"BSE, or Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (mad cow disease), primarily spreads within bovine herds through the consumption of meat and bone meal (MBM) contaminated with the BSE agent, a misfolded protein called a prion. 

 

Here's a more detailed explanation:

• The Cause:

  BSE is caused by a prion, a misfolded protein that can induce normally folded proteins to become misfolded, leading to brain damage and death. 

   
• Transmission:

  The primary route of transmission is through the consumption of MBM derived from infected cattle, which contains the BSE prion. 

   
• Contaminated Feed:

  Cattle can become infected by eating feed that contains MBM, especially if the MBM contains tissues from other cattle that have BSE or scrapie (a similar prion disease in sheep).

   

27 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Of course he is better than them. Of course they know it. The guy is a self made billionaire. Won Presidential elections three times. Successful careers across multiple areas. Bedding more porn stars and other tarty looking lasses than most of us can dream of - no buying buffalos or acting as the family ATM. Living rent free in the lefts heads 24/7. 

Some 75 year old barfly in Jomtien living in a 12k baht a month flop house thinks they are better than that?! Very funny.

Would you be able to explain and list the multiple successful careers across multiple areas he's had?   That will be interesting  reading.

 

Dont forget to include how many companies he's bankrupted, how many loans he's defaulted on, how many charities he's cheated, how many housing violations he's had on decriminalization, how many employees he's stiffed on pay, how many woman he's abused, how many times his dad bailed him out and how much money the "self made billionaire" got from his family and thats just the tip of the iceberg before he decided to run for office.

7 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Sure, the reason Australia stops US imports of ribeye is because they need to protect the purity of Australian cows. Only one problem with that argument - Your Australian cows can't catch BSE from a ribeye steak.

Where do you think the remains of a ribeye steak go?

 

The most common way of spreading the prions causing mad cow disease is when blood and bone meal fertilizer is either consumed directly by cattle, or spread on pasture. Farmers use fertilizer, right?

 

Prions are not bacteria or viruses. They are abnormal proteins highly resistant to normal sterilization procedures, including cooking. More so if ordered rare.

 

Your post merely demonstrates your ignorance

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Wow. Are you OK?

 

I'm glad to see you still have access to your beloved crayons in the asylum.

23 minutes ago, Dan O said:

That's the stupidist argument I've heard today.

Don't panic.... it's still early.

22 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Where do you think the remains of a ribeye steak go?

 

The most common way of spreading the prions causing mad cow disease is when blood and bone meal fertilizer is either consumed directly by cattle, or spread on pasture. Farmers use fertilizer, right?

 

Prions are not bacteria or viruses. They are abnormal proteins highly resistant to normal sterilization procedures, including cooking. More so if ordered rare.

 

Your post merely demonstrates your ignorance

 

It is IMPOSSIBLE for your precious Australian cows to catch BSE from a ribeye steak that is imported from the US to the table of an Australian consumer.

 

What you are talking about is cattle feed. I am not talking about cattle feed. I am talking about prime Texas rib eye steak for the end consumer. It would not even see an Australian cow because it would be consumed and the "remnants" would end in the garbage.

 

In any event the British government determined that scrapie was NOT the cause of BSE, rather it was a spontaenous genetic mutation.

 

So in another words your precious Australian cows could easily develop this gene mutation DESPITE Australia's protectionist attempts to stop other competitiors entering the market.
 

26 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Yes, that's exactly what he taught. Someone who is beneath you is not in a position to do a "hateful" thing that affects you, only those who are your equal or your superior can do that.

 

It's just resentment against someone you know is better than you. Just accept it. 

 

It's a fact.

If you  are  an high ranking  prisoner in a prisoner of war camp and a low-ranking guard treats you badly, you can't resent them? You are confusing someone who has power over you as superior. Trump may have the power, that does not make him superior.

Posts using derogatory and toxic nicknames or intentional misspelling of people’s names will be removed. If you don’t want your post to be removed, spell people’s names correctly, this applies to both sides of the political debate. 

7 minutes ago, bunnydrops said:

If you  are  an high ranking  prisoner in a prisoner of war camp and a low-ranking guard treats you badly, you can't resent them? You are confusing someone who has power over you as superior. Trump may have the power, that does not make him superior.

 

No, you are confusing hierarchy. If you are a prisoner then the guard is your superior.

 

You see how easy this is?

31 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Yes, that's exactly what he taught. Someone who is beneath you is not in a position to do a "hateful" thing that affects you, only those who are your equal or your superior can do that.

 

It's just resentment against someone you know is better than you. Just accept it. 

 

It's a fact.

 Let's say a foreign country invaded your country and rounded up a certain ethnic group, puts them in concentration camps and executed them all. Does the hatred of those who survived them against these murderers mean that they know that these murderers are better than they are?. Maybe I shouldn't be surprised that you would believe this. After all, not so long ago the philosophy of Nietsche was used to support such nonsense.

It seems perfectly justifiable to me to hate someone in a position of power who greatly abuses it. Without believing that such a  person is somehow better. Now, maybe if you're Jesus or the Buddha, you wouldn't experience such emotions. Sane people would make no such claim.

 

3 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Wow. Are you OK?

 

Please don't post self portraits!!

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

No, you are confusing hierarchy. If you are a prisoner then the guard is your superior.

 

You see how easy this is?

A young college student is raped by a vagrant.

47 minutes ago, Dan O said:

That only works if there are US mfr making exportable goods the world wants at a price they can afford. Today's service economy in the US doesn't support that scenario very well and it will take quite a long time, if ever to rebuild the infrastructure in mfr to think about being competitive on the global stage. The cost of labor alone in the US is prohibitive to global mfr.

Anyway, it's false. The US and Australia don't impose any tariffs on each other's goods. They share a strong free trade agreement.

3 minutes ago, bunnydrops said:

A young college student is raped by a vagrant.

 

He is superior in strength.

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

He is superior in strength.

Oh, we can pick and choose?

1 hour ago, Harrisfan said:

What's the point in whingeing non stop about Trump? 

He's destroying the world economy and the US ecomomy and many people's wealth with his insane policies and probably will usher in a Global Depression that will probably lead to World War 3 - that point.  The joke has long ceased to be funny.

Just now, beautifulthailand99 said:

He's destroying the world economy and the US ecomomy and many people's wealth with his insane policies and probably will usher in a Global Depression that will probably lead to World War 3 - that point.  The joke has long ceased to be funny.

Ww3 and depression 

9 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Please don't post self portraits!!

It makes him look less deranged and better than I imagined!