2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Then try to convince themselves they didn't marry a sex worker, and try to convince everyone else they didn't either.

Hopefully they charge less than the ex-wife did!

59 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

'Cos the foreign guys that marry the sex workers have the cash to pay for international schools.

Than claim they never frequent bars, never pay for sex, and love Pattaya because its a family friendly resort.

Then try to convince themselves they didn't marry a sex worker, and try to convince everyone else they didn't either.

 

      Your post is the typical spiel that's spouted ad infinitum on the Forum--by lots of posters like you who don't even live in Pattaya--and likely have never visited any of the many nice, new Pattaya housing developments to see what is actually now being built and who is actually living in them.  I live in a Pattaya villa project, and lived in two home projects before this one, have met some of my neighbors in all of them, and have met many more couples and families who came to view the 3 previous houses I sold, as well as more than a dozen condos.   What I post is what I actually see and live, here in person.

      Of course, some foreigners do marry women they meet at a bar--true not just for Pattaya--but I'm not seeing older farang/younger Thai woman as a high percentage in the housing projects that I have lived in here in Pattaya.  In my current housing development of 28 homes, maybe two or three that I know of have farang husbands with younger Thai wives.  

      As I said in my previous post, it's a UN--with families from a variety of countries.  The families I know of in the project sending their kids to international schools are from China, Russia, and Israel and both spouses are from those countries.  One of the Chinese couples that I met told me that they moved to Thailand specifically to send their two children to an international school to get a better, more rounded education than they would get in China.

     In any case, whether it's a high or low percentage is neither here nor there and matters not a bit.  And, it has no bearing whatsoever on the points I was making in my post.  That also applies to your second post regarding mortgages--which repeats the same distorted perceptions as your first post.   

    The reasons why buyers are paying cash for their homes is also beside the point.  The big takeaway--which you ignored in both your posts--is the large number of diverse international buyers moving to Pattaya who have the means to pay cash for properties, whether condo or villa, costing 10MB and up--in some cases way up.   That's the meat of the story and what you should have focused on.  Obviously, if they have $300,000 or more in ready cash to purchase a home they could choose to live lots of places besides Pattaya.  Yet, here they are, choosing Pattaya.  Me, too.   

    You, and any skeptical others, might educate yourselves a bit by viewing some of the many Youtube videos showing new  housing projects and new house tours of the projects now being built in Pattaya.  My spouse and I like to watch them when we are exercising to keep updated on what's new and we are continually amazed at both the number of new projects, the high-end design, and, in many cases, the quite high price points.   Take a gander and you'll see what I am talking about.  

       

13 minutes ago, newnative said:

my current housing development of 28 homes, maybe two or three that I know of have farang husbands with younger Thai wives.  

So 10%, that seems about right to me.

18 minutes ago, newnative said:

The reasons why buyers are paying cash for their homes is also beside the point.  The big takeaway--which you ignored in both your posts--is the large number of diverse international buyers moving to Pattaya who have the means to pay cash for properties, whether condo or villa, costing 10MB and up--in some cases way up.   That's the meat of the story and what you should have focused on.  Obviously, if they have $300,000 or more in ready cash to purchase a home they could choose to live lots of places besides Pattaya.  Yet, here they are, choosing Pattaya.  Me, too.   

Yeah, but if they're both foreigners, they can't legally buy houses in Thailand, unless breaking the law.

 

As for your diverse families, I'd rather mix with former sex workers than Chinese, Russians or Israeli.

 

Hey, but it's a free world, everyone is allowed to have their opinions.

 

Guys like this one? 

On 4/29/2025 at 7:57 PM, johnnybangkok said:

Ahh the 'I didn't see it with my own 2 eyes so therefore it couldn't have happened' routine.
It's been happening for a long, long time. Drink, drugs and youth ALWAYS have been up to shenanigans. Did none of you live through the 60's with Mods and rockers? Football clubs against any others? 

This idea that society has only degraded recently is fanciful nonsense. 

WTF has football hooligans,mods and rockers got to do with Thailand. I did witness it with my own eyes having owned several bars and restaurants here. What is your proof . Your armchair

45 minutes ago, lavender19 said:

WTF has football hooligans,mods and rockers got to do with Thailand. I did witness it with my own eyes having owned several bars and restaurants here. What is your proof . Your armchair

You have literally just confirmed what I was trying to say. 

 

By your own admission you have witnessed it with your own eyes having owned several bars and restaurants, therefore you are surrounded in an environment that probably sees a far greater proportion of trouble then someone who say runs a flower shop. And the examples I gave were to demonstrate time. There was huge problems with the 'youth' in the 60's though Mods & Rockers, football hooligans in the 70's and 80's and gang violence thereafter. To say it is worse now just negates all the social issues of the past - of which there was plenty and for which they have been going on for decades.

 

The older generation typically bemoan the younger generation whilst conveniently forgetting the problems that occurred whilst they were growing up. That's what I was meaning.