31 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

P.s, I understand facts, but you don't have any, only MSM headlines.

 

And the syndrome we can't mention.

 

While this exchange took place during the recent oral hearing on birthright citizenship, it would apply to the merits of the admin's invoking 'invasion' in the proclamation per the 1789 Act *:

 

10:40 p.m. GMT+7, May 15, 2025

 

Barrett emerges as key vote in birthright case Justice Amy Coney Barrett, a member of the court’s conservative wing, repeatedly pressed President Donald Trump’s attorney about why the government is avoiding the merits of the birthright citizenship case.

 

Her line of questioning drew an important concession from Solicitor General D. John Sauer, who acknowledged the legal arguments defending the merits of Trump’s order were “novel” and “sensitive.”

 

“So this one isn’t clear cut on the merits,” Barrett asked.

 

Sauer agreed.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/supreme-court-birthright-citizenship-cases-05-15-25

 

* https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/invocation-of-the-alien-enemies-act-regarding-the-invasion-of-the-united-states-by-tren-de-aragua/

 

 

10 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

 

It's going be a long 3 and a half years, buckle up buttercup.

 

Yep, especially for MAGA supporters. Authoritarians usually cannibalise their own supports

3 hours ago, thesetat said:

Trump has not deported anyone

 

LOL - OK clarification: Trump Administration by way of Executive Orders. It's why so many Courts are challenging deportations / attempted deportations  contrary to the Constitution

9 minutes ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

 

Not the answer to my question.

 

I understand.  You have no answer.

 

You can ask of me the question you want.

 

And I'll give the answer - if any -- that I want.

15 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

According to MAGA world it's fine for the President to breach his Office of Office to uphold the law? Hopefully it will not happen, but only yourselves, cowardly GOP  and the Supreme Court id you end up in a dictatorship / autocracy  in the coming three years. You already have a full on unshackled Trump family kleptocracy, so not too far to go.

You dont understand, the Trump administration / The US government is up holding the law.  (the pervious administration didn't , open boarders come on in... we'll give you cash and free place to stay)

 

These people are illegally in the county.

I still dont understand why people dont get this.  It's ok for Thailand. Vietnam etc etc etc to detain, deport people that overstay or enter illegally, but the US should be different and just let people overstay and sneak into the country.  

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

 

Yep, especially for MAGA supporters. Authoritarians usually cannibalise their own supports

Just like the Democrats did with anyone that disagreed with them

I see it's gotcha time.

The title of this topic is Trump's actions contrary to court order.

The Supreme Court order is 27 pages long and even in the 2 member Alito and Thomas dissent there is no mention of Biden.

So if you want to talk about Biden, do it with someone else.

21 hours ago, illisdean said:

You need to cry a little harder. LOL

 

Meanwhile ponder this if you are cognitively able to.

 

 

 

Never happened, both are illegal.

15 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

If anyone can cross the border illegally then have their deportation blocked by some judge then that's the end of country. American voters have no recourse either. Vote all you want but the final say of whether you get invaded or comes down a single judge. 

yes,  and all you need to do is hunt around the States to find a judge that will do what you want. 

22 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Deporting criminals in never a bad thing.

 

Thank You President Trump ❤️

How do we know they are criminals without a hearing?

2 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

That's totally unpractical and unnecessary.  It should be as easy to remove them as it was for them to come. Person who can't speak English and can't prove their identity is pretty obvious.

It doesn't matter how impractible it is and it is completely necessary. If you can't understand that, then I am wasting my time trying to explain how the justice system works to you.

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

 

LOL - OK clarification: Trump Administration by way of Executive Orders. It's why so many Courts are challenging deportations / attempted deportations  contrary to the Constitution

No, activist Democrat judges are trying for their 15 minutes of fame by obstructing trump in any way possible, they are trying to undermine democracy and stop trump doing what the majority voted him in to do.

they are the very threat to democracy they said, for years, Trump would be..

 

Posts using derogatory nicknames to belittle or mock individuals with differing political views have been removed.

 

A post with screenshots of news items has been removed as there were no links provided to the sources of information. 

3 hours ago, frank83628 said:

What laws has he broken?

Illegal entry means you broken the law entering the country.. you don't get gue process, that is if claimng asylum.

Why are you defending criminals being removed?

Obama deported 3+ million, you were silent.

You libtards will bitch & complain and oppose every single thing trump says or does, its been the same since 2016. Nonstop!

First time the US has a president actually trying to make a difference, and you all go against him because the media told you too.... same as it told you to hate your neighbour over covid..... gullible weak minded

 

 

dont forget,,, They told everyone that they should buy a Tesla to save the planet, oh....but wait, now its a bad thing to own one, they dont check or care if you're democrat or republican if you own a Tesla you're a Nazi.   

Democrats luv illegal aliens, the ones that vote for them.

22 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

How do we know they are criminals without a hearing?

Surely that's not a serious question.  ICE isn't deporting people that have a legal right to stay in the USA.

 

IF they entered illegally, without going through the legal 'due process', then they ARE CRIMINALS.  IF they were released into the USA, with conditions, then they obviously violated those conditions, (missed review / court date) and probably ruled to be deported, in absenteeism, since they probably couldn't be found, again, probably against their conditional stay, until approved for an authorized stay.

 

Will be deported, as due process already done, if a warrant for their arrest & deportation was issued.   No further hearing or due process necessary.

 

Stop presenting silly 'what if' scenarios.  They are criminals, they had their day in court, and was their decision, not to show up for it.

 

LIVE WITH YOUR CHOICES 

22 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

How do we know they are criminals without a hearing?

They're in the country illegally, then they are criminals. Try entering a country illegally and see what happens, in fact try it with Thailand, see where that gets you. You must love Biden and woke dem nonsense including child sex mutilations, illegal immigration, crime, fentanyl deaths, blue hair and acting like typical biden luvin losers.

 

 

23 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

How do we know they are criminals without a hearing?

Frist clue,  entering illegally.  You know they are called illegal immigrants, illegal means your a criminal as you broke the law.

 

I do understand your confusion with the democrats changing the term from illegal to undocumented.   

1 hour ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

 

Not the answer to my question.

 

I understand.  You have no answer.

Heres' the answer some on the left plying their nonsense here are afraid to confront. Trump enforces federal immigration laws and policies NOT the whacked out woke biden luvin activist judiciary.

 

 

11 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Surely that's not a serious question.  ICE isn't deporting people that have a legal right to stay in the USA.

 

IF they entered illegally, without going through the legal 'due process', then they ARE CRIMINALS.  IF they were released into the USA, with conditions, then they obviously violated those conditions, (missed review / court date) and probably ruled to be deported, in absenteeism, since they probably couldn't be found, again, probably against their conditional stay, until approved for an authorized stay.

 

Will be deported, as due process already done, if a warrant for their arrest & deportation was issued.   No further hearing or due process necessary.

 

Stop presenting silly 'what if' scenarios.  They are criminals, they had their day in court, and was their decision, not to show up for it.

 

LIVE WITH YOUR CHOICES 

They are deporting people with a legal ring to stay, and ignoring the hearing process.

 

If they entered illegally, they are subject to deportation. What is the evidence that they entered illegally? Show it to a judge and then you can deport them.

15 minutes ago, ericthai said:

Frist clue,  entering illegally.  You know they are called illegal immigrants, illegal means your a criminal as you broke the law.

 

I do understand your confusion with the democrats changing the term from illegal to undocumented.   

What EVIDENCE do you have that they are staying illegally? Have they been given a chance to provide their documents?

12 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

What EVIDENCE do you have that they are staying illegally? Have they been given a chance to provide their documents?

how about the estimated 1.8M got-aways....they free to stay?? Give your pathetic head a shake and quit obfuscating and acting obtuse. If Trump rescinds TPS at his whim, then those illegals are toast too. 

8 minutes ago, illisdean said:

how about the estimated 1.8M got-aways....they free to stay?? Give your pathetic head a shake and quit obfuscating and acting obtuse. If Trump rescinds TPS at his whim, then those illegals are toast too. 

Present the evidence and get a court order, that is how the law works.

31 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

If they entered illegally, they are subject to deportation. What is the evidence that they entered illegally? Show it to a judge and then you can deport them.

 

If you have millions of people enter a country illegally the whole idea of "going to do a judge" is no longer viable.

 

Apparently you think illegal immigration is the silver bullet that can take down America. Just rush the borders and then let the stupid Americans issue a court date for 50 years later. Do you think people are going to stand for it this forever?

25 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

They are deporting people with a legal ring to stay, and ignoring the hearing process.

 

If they entered illegally, they are subject to deportation. What is the evidence that they entered illegally? Show it to a judge and then you can deport them.

You obviously have no idea how the legal system works in the USA, nor how Biden 'catch & release' programmed worked.

 

People with a legal right to stay in the USA, are not being deported, as if challenged, they probably show up for the court date.

 

Repeating your silly questions, doesn't negate the rulings against the criminals.  Everyone in the USA, gets their 'day in court'.   That they chose not to show up ... oh well.

 

BYE BYE

 

 

3 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Present the evidence and get a court order, that is how the law works.

what evidence is needed if you are an illegal alien who entered the country illegally, have no docs except a few tattoos perhaps and TPS is quashed, Bidens illegal immigration amnesty is done, you are one of 1.8M got-aways and have no record of crossing. LOL....keep shaking your head, just a little harder now. Biden tried a whammy, turning illegal immigration into some biden style quasi legal immigration. These people are lawbreakers now and Trump/DHS have said GTFO, and out they will go. How ya doin now.

1 hour ago, ericthai said:

yes,  and all you need to do is hunt around the States to find a judge that will do what you want. 

 

Exactly. Just stop having elections then because there's always some guy somewhere that will have an objection and block whatever the president does. 

 

Already the sanctuary cities have broken federal immigration law and they've gotten away with it for years. Why does Trump need to listen to any of those judges then? Just start arresting people and if the sanctuary city people don't like it they can respond as they will. That's where this is going now.

Venezuelan Deportees Sent to El Salvador – Key Facts (2025)
 

In March 2025, the Trump administration deported 238 Venezuelan men to El Salvador’s CECOT, a maximum-security prison known for harsh conditions and indefinite detention.
 

The Cato Institute reviewed 174 of these cases. Of the 90 with verified entry records, 50 had entered the U.S. legally: 21 at official ports of entry, 24 through parole, 4 as resettled refugees, and 1 on a tourist visa.
 

CBS News reported that 75% had no criminal record in the U.S. or abroad.
 

Many were accused of gang affiliation based solely on tattoos—such as “mom” and “dad” with crowns, soccer balls, or religious imagery. The Cato report concluded that these tattoos were culturally common and not credible indicators of gang membership.
 

Most deportations occurred without court orders or due process. Authorities invoked the 1798 Alien Enemies Act, a wartime law rarely used in modern immigration enforcement.
 

These findings contradict widespread claims that all deportees were undocumented, criminal, or gang-affiliated.
 

Sources: https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/2025-05/ProfilesVenezuelansFinal.pdf

CBS News, El País

3 minutes ago, illisdean said:

what evidence is needed if you are an illegal alien who entered the country illegally, have no docs except a few tattoos perhaps and TPS is quashed, Bidens illegal immigration amnesty is done, you are one of 1.8M got-aways and have no record of crossing. LOL....keep shaking your head, just a little harder now. Biden tried a whammy, turning illegal immigration into some biden style quasi legal immigration. These people are lawbreakers now and Trump/DHS have said GTFO, and out they will go. How ya doin now.

 

All Americans have a S.S. number or a birth certificate at least. You can prove who your parents are if you're young enough, other legal family members can vouch for you. Speaking English obviously. It's trivial to figure this out.