Seems he came to his senses a bit here

[fredwiggy]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-very-surprised-putin-230919132.html

[fredwiggy]

From thinking he could end the war in a week, to talking down to Zelenskyy, to thinking Putin could be reasoned with, he finally realizes there is no reasoning with a dictator megalomaniac.

[StandardIssue]

9 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

From thinking he could end the war in a week, to talking down to Zelenskyy, to thinking Putin could be reasoned with, he finally realizes there is no reasoning with a dictator megalomaniac.

 

A bit thick yea? Kind of a "dim bulb"?

Willing to say ANYTHING in the moment without any backbone to do what he says. Just terrible. He won't be gone soon enough. Mid term elections won't come soon enough. At least cut the legs out from underneath him by getting the democrats back into control of at least one of the houses of congress.

[frank83628]

10 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

From thinking he could end the war in a week, to talking down to Zelenskyy, to thinking Putin could be reasoned with, he finally realizes there is no reasoning with a dictator megalomaniac.

Its not Putin, its the Western leaders pushing this war now, they don't want it to stop but you're too propagandised to see that. The weapons manufacturers want their wars.

[fredwiggy]

1 minute ago, frank83628 said:

Its not Putin, its the Western leaders pushing this war now, they don't want it to stop but you're too propagandised to see that. The weapons manufacturers want their wars.

No, it's Putin.

[Jingthing]

Just words.

Let's see ACTION!

[frank83628]

Just now, fredwiggy said:

No, it's Putin.

Its the west, now without the US, although I can see Trump being pulled back into it. MIC wants wars not peace. You're old enoough to know that, unless you're totally brainwashed

[Jingthing]

15 minutes ago, StandardIssue said:

 

A bit thick yea? Kind of a "dim bulb"?

Willing to say ANYTHING in the moment without any backbone to do what he says. Just terrible. He won't be gone soon enough. Mid term elections won't come soon enough. At least cut the legs out from underneath him by getting the democrats back into control of at least one of the houses of congress.

Yep.

 

 

[Mavideol]

17 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

From thinking he could end the war in a week, to talking down to Zelenskyy, to thinking Putin could be reasoned with, he finally realizes there is no reasoning with a dictator megalomaniac.

first Trump said will finish the war in 1 day or day one after he was sworn in, than it would take 1 month, than a couple months, than he started the blaming on anybody other than Putin, last week he decided to step down his high chair and said that EU should be taking care of the war, he kind of befriended Zelensky in Rome but that was short live, now he started again going after Zelensky

 

Trump says Putin ‘has gone absolutely crazy’ after major Russian attack on Ukraine

https://au.news.yahoo.com/trump-says-not-happy-putin-224629392.html

 

[fredwiggy]

2 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Its the west, now without the US, although I can see Trump being pulled back into it. MIC wants wars not peace. You're old enoough to know that, unless you're totally brainwashed

I've been around long enough to understand why wars happen, and who profits. My statement is that it was Putin's insanity that started this war. That the west wants it to go on to make money? Of course .

[frank83628]

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

I've been around long enough to understand why wars happen, and who profits. My statement is that it was Putin's insanity that started this war. That the west wants it to go on to make money? Of course .

So you accept and admit the west wants the war to continue then.

[fredwiggy]

5 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

So you accept and admit the west wants the war to continue then.

Some do, some don't, as with all wars. It makes money, so they happen.

[UWEB]

17 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Its not Putin, its the Western leaders pushing this war now, they don't want it to stop but you're too propagandised to see that. The weapons manufacturers want their wars.

Typical MAGA nonsense.

[Mavideol]

34 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-very-surprised-putin-230919132.html

I didn't want to start another topic so I am updating the orange man latest rants which are mostly the same blablabla BS as he has been saying, meaning he has no bauuauuulls to stand up to Putin

Trump warns attempts to conquer all of Ukraine will lead to ‘downfall’ of Russia

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-very-surprised-putin-230919132.html

 

[hotsun]

In my unbiased opinion, i think russia deserves to be put in their place, and i think everyone should get involved

[Presnock]

32 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

From thinking he could end the war in a week, to talking down to Zelenskyy, to thinking Putin could be reasoned with, he finally realizes there is no reasoning with a dictator megalomaniac.

especially IMHO when one is also a meglomaniac thinking he can end all wars in a 24hours, or raise tariffs on every country in the world and think that in doing so everyone will love and respect him!  He was wise to put his believers (the rich ones) so they can't declare him insane and impeach him.  If the democrats are able to take control of the house/Senate before his term is over, IMHO they will impeach him.

[fredwiggy]

1 minute ago, Presnock said:

especially IMHO when one is also a meglomaniac thinking he can end all wars in a 24hours, or raise tariffs on every country in the world and think that in doing so everyone will love and respect him!  He was wise to put his believers (the rich ones) so they can't declare him insane and impeach him.  If the democrats are able to take control of the house/Senate before his term is over, IMHO they will impeach him.

His huge ego has him thinking he can do almost anything. Thinking about helping America is one thing, but doing things that can eventually hurt from too quick decisions can backfire for us later.

[Presnock]

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

His huge ego has him thinking he can do almost anything. Thinking about helping America is one thing, but doing things that can eventually hurt from too quick decisions can backfire for us later.

IMHO only thing wrong in your first line is "almost" anything - don't have to put in the almost as the various courts are finding out as he flaunts all the laws and rules of the US Constitution plus blatantly using the office of the Presidency to enrich even further his family and the other rich people in this cabinet!  Even worse is the fact that Congress is letting him get away with much of which is THEIR responsibility.  The on again off again IMHO is being used by him and his rich buddies for insider trading as some have even been reported.  The I guess next week we see him WASTE another 100 million dollars on the US Army parade, this to be added to the 300 million dollars wasted so far on his golfing dates.

[JakeC]

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Its not Putin, its the Western leaders pushing this war now, they don't want it to stop but you're too propagandised to see that. The weapons manufacturers want their wars.

 

Delusional to the end...

[fredwiggy]

4 minutes ago, Presnock said:

IMHO only thing wrong in your first line is "almost" anything - don't have to put in the almost as the various courts are finding out as he flaunts all the laws and rules of the US Constitution plus blatantly using the office of the Presidency to enrich even further his family and the other rich people in this cabinet!  Even worse is the fact that Congress is letting him get away with much of which is THEIR responsibility.  The on again off again IMHO is being used by him and his rich buddies for insider trading as some have even been reported.  The I guess next week we see him WASTE another 100 million dollars on the US Army parade, this to be added to the 300 million dollars wasted so far on his golfing dates.

I do know he probably tries his hardest to get things passed, even though Congress has to approve. A narcissist never stops, but he's not working alone, so we can thank God for that, as leaving him free will would be a disaster.

[daveAustin]

33 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

It’s the west, now without the US, although I can see Trump being pulled back into it. MIC wants wars not peace. You're old enoough to know that, unless you're totally brainwashed

Put the Tom Clancy down dude. 🥴
Perhaps the typical one sided affair—Vietnam, Afghanistan et al—but not this one, which is no good for anyone and has the potential to go supernova. 

[Lacessit]

23 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I've been around long enough to understand why wars happen, and who profits. My statement is that it was Putin's insanity that started this war. That the west wants it to go on to make money? Of course .

Wars are about theft writ large. Territory, resources, water, oil. Ukraine has 25-30% of the world's black soil ( chernozem ) , which is the richest and most productive agricultural soil on the planet.

 

Putin is not insane. He is a cunning sociopath. He plays Trump like a harp.

 

Putin's mistake when invading Ukraine was to believe the intelligence supplied by the FSB, who were telling him what they thought he wanted to hear.

[NoDisplayName]

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

From thinking he could end the war in a week, to talking down to Zelenskyy, to thinking Putin could be reasoned with, he finally realizes there is no reasoning with a dictator megalomaniac.

 

Don't need to reason with a dictator.

 

Just cut off aid to the nazi regime and Zelensky will have to hold elections.

[fredwiggy]

5 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Wars are about theft writ large. Territory, resources, water, oil. Ukraine has 25-30% of the world's black soil ( chernozem ) , which is the richest and most productive agricultural soil on the planet.

 

Putin is not insane. He is a cunning sociopath. He plays Trump like a harp.

 

Putin's mistake when invading Ukraine was to believe the intelligence supplied by the FSB, who were telling him what they thought he wanted to hear.

I used insanity on his actions, but yes, he's a true sociopath. Putin underestimated Ukraine's abilities and the help they would receive. Stopping that help is a mistake, as Russia, meaning Putin and his cronies, needs to be taught  a lesson and ousted with extreme prejudice. We aren't seeing but a fraction of the atrocities that goes on there, and to him it means nothing but resources and control.

[bubblegum]

24 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Don't need to reason with a dictator.

 

Just cut off aid to the nazi regime and Zelensky will have to hold elections.

Deranged 

[JakeC]

Fiona Hill: Trump is terrified of Putin, I’ve seen it first hand.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2025/05/25/fiona-hill-interview-trump-terrified-putin-seen-firsthand/

 

https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-sunday-telegraph/20250525/282106347560199

[jas007]

Didn't Ukraine send a fleet of drones to attack Putin's helicopter?  I'd be mad, too.

 

However it happens, the sooner this war ends, the better, preferably without additional US involvement.  Perhaps Putin can bring Zelenskyy to his senses?  

 

Trump is doing the wrong thing here, by calling Putin crazy. Threatening new sanctions?  Absolutely the wrong thing to do.  

[bannork]

Apart from Trump being the last person in the world to realise Putin has been playing him, he's also flipflopped on the sudden 50% tariff imposition on the EU.

What a sad joke he is turning out to be:

'What a joke': Trump ridiculed on social media after he 'backs down' from threat

Economist Justin Wolfers said, "Friday's EU tariff announcement lasted nearly the whole weekend, or 18% of a Scaramucci."

Republicans against Trump wrote, "Trump backs down from his EU tariff threat. Again."

"What a clown show," the group added.

[LosLobo]

1 hour ago, Presnock said:

IMHO only thing wrong in your first line is "almost" anything - don't have to put in the almost as the various courts are finding out as he flaunts all the laws and rules of the US Constitution plus blatantly using the office of the Presidency to enrich even further his family and the other rich people in this cabinet!  Even worse is the fact that Congress is letting him get away with much of which is THEIR responsibility.  The on again off again IMHO is being used by him and his rich buddies for insider trading as some have even been reported.  The I guess next week we see him WASTE another 100 million dollars on the US Army parade, this to be added to the 300 million dollars wasted so far on his golfing dates.

You forgot he's burning through another billion on military upgrades to his ‘free’ Qatar flying palace — which won’t even be finished until after his term, but maybe just in time for his retirement.
 

The King was perfectly content with Air Force One in his first term. And his own bucket of bolts — a old 757 that once shuttled passengers for a Mexican budget airline.
 

The wasted billion hardly supports DOGE’s grand vision of eliminating the “tyranny of the bureaucracy,” saving taxpayer money, and reducing the national debt.
 

“I want my plane — let the taxpayers eat cake.”

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, Presnock said:

especially IMHO when one is also a meglomaniac thinking he can end all wars in a 24hours, or raise tariffs on every country in the world and think that in doing so everyone will love and respect him!  He was wise to put his believers (the rich ones) so they can't declare him insane and impeach him.  If the democrats are able to take control of the house/Senate before his term is over, IMHO they will impeach him.

of course they will, they already did twice for nothing other than a campaign slogan

Lets hope sanity prevails and the Dems never come back to power.