Most certainly a resounding YES (and its actually hard to find an independent practician not being molded by the corrupt medical system). 

From medical schools to newsrooms, pharmaceutical companies have infiltrated the very institutions meant to protect your health - and the consequences are more serious than you think.  

And although the article featured here is about the US situation, the Big Pharma Octopus has spread its tentacles and practices worldwide. 

 

  Follow the Money — How Big Pharma Hijacked Modern Healthcare

 

Story at-a-glance

• Pharmaceutical companies have embedded themselves into the media, medical schools, nonprofits, and federal agencies. Their far-reaching influence has allowed them to shape public health narratives
• Journalist Sharyl Attkisson reveals how pharmaceutical companies, federal agencies, and mainstream media work together to bury vaccine injuries, suppress clinical trial failures, and silence experts who speak out
• Many trusted nonprofit health organizations receive funding from pharmaceutical companies, creating conflicts of interest that affect their public health recommendations
• Medical students are trained using pharma-funded materials that downplay drug risks. They’re conditioned to prescribe medications instead of investigating root causes or offering real, lasting treatments
• To protect yourself from deception, don’t hesitate to question health narratives and seek independent voices who prioritize public health over corporate-aligned messaging

 

You can read the full story - including many illustrative cases - here: https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2025/06/01/how-big-pharma-hijacked-modern-healthcare.aspx

 

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Thanks for  bringing attention to yet another interesting and underreported subject matter 👍

Joseph Mercola. You know he's been getting directions from an entity known as Balaan through a channeling medium calling himself "the Kai"

For statins yes ,given out like sweets despite the side effects ,I escaped statins to the good

Of course there is corruption for profit in health care. 

 

There are doctors online who may be 1) more knowledgeable with more up to date science and modalities and/or 2) more ethical than your local doctor, providing safer solutions to problems and avoiding treatments with serious side effects

 

You can take the time to research things to be less controlled by the dictates of your local doctor now.

 

In the past, we had no choice and the local doctor was God. Not anymore with all the information out there. 

 

Also, a lot of stuff on iHerb can help with problems.

 

 

 

4 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

Most certainly a resounding YES (and its actually hard to find an independent practician not being molded by the corrupt medical system). 

From medical schools to newsrooms, pharmaceutical companies have infiltrated the very institutions meant to protect your health - and the consequences are more serious than you think.  

And although the article featured here is about the US situation, the Big Pharma Octopus has spread its tentacles and practices worldwide. 

 

  Follow the Money — How Big Pharma Hijacked Modern Healthcare

 

Story at-a-glance

• Pharmaceutical companies have embedded themselves into the media, medical schools, nonprofits, and federal agencies. Their far-reaching influence has allowed them to shape public health narratives
• Journalist Sharyl Attkisson reveals how pharmaceutical companies, federal agencies, and mainstream media work together to bury vaccine injuries, suppress clinical trial failures, and silence experts who speak out
• Many trusted nonprofit health organizations receive funding from pharmaceutical companies, creating conflicts of interest that affect their public health recommendations
• Medical students are trained using pharma-funded materials that downplay drug risks. They’re conditioned to prescribe medications instead of investigating root causes or offering real, lasting treatments
• To protect yourself from deception, don’t hesitate to question health narratives and seek independent voices who prioritize public health over corporate-aligned messaging

 

You can read the full story - including many illustrative cases - here: https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2025/06/01/how-big-pharma-hijacked-modern-healthcare.aspx

 

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Not more BS, now you tell us all, you will REFUSE any medication for any ailment, you have a card in your pocket in case you get run over to say NO meds...........🤕...............😂

11 hours ago, transam said:

Not more BS, now you tell us all, you will REFUSE any medication for any ailment, you have a card in your pocket in case you get run over to say NO meds...........🤕...............😂

 

In some instances, the only thing that can save your life is antibiotics.

If you don't take them, you may die. I have a finger infection once that was getting nasty. I didn't mess around and got an antibiotic shot in the bum. 

However, doctors have over-prescribed antibiotics. Some people run to clinics for the sniffles and walk away with antibiotics. And this is bad for several reasons, one of which is they mess up your gut microbiome. Which the doctors either didn't know about back then or didnt care too much. 

 

Even AI agrees with me on this one:

 

Eustace Mullins wrote a book called Murder by Injection, in which he detailed the monopoly takeover of medicine.  I think it was early 1900's.

 

Getting doctors to recommend patients inject poison into their body in the name of health is a good indication of the complete takeover.

 

 

In another thread, someone asked " who should i believe, a "scientist"  or a bricklayer.

 

i get nicer feedback when i do jokes instead of a (shortened version) of my take on "trusting the experts " .   From reading, life experiences, and observing human nature I basically believe that I need to do a LOT of independent research.. and not be influenced by the "popular"  assumptions made by so many , coming from their steadfast belief that their choice of source is the damn truth and others are just stupid, quacks, idiots, or whatever terms they repeat from their sources.

 

So.... the answer to "who would i trust.... or would i believe... "  to the above questions are definitely ....IT DEPENDS.   It depends on my analysis for each decision, especially major ones  (like health, or "science" ),  and even smaller ones .  I am pretty well censored and in the minority relating to my choices of avoiding MOST allopathic doctors and hospitals unless I have to .  Like a broken hip !  

 

I would surely be considered just a "bricklayer" by the majority here ( but there is a minority ) , regarding taking care of one's health.   While many my age suffer from diseases and are on multiple types of pills......... I take one eye drop daily.  My recent cold was the first in ten years.  I stayed far away from the doctors my 2 friends  went to for the usual tests and  antibiotics .  Over two weeks and both are still feeling very weak.    I followed a protocol from a natural site and was better in 3 days.    Same with Ms. Rumak .   (btw: we are unvaxxed .   never even a cold till now)

It took some work , but seems my bricklayers course of action was the right one.

 

here is just one article that came up when i asked google about rate of misdiagnosis :

 

The original research article was published July 17 by BMJ Quality & Safety. Results of the new analysis of national data found that across all clinical settings, including hospital and clinic-based care, an estimated 795,000 Americans die or are permanently disabled by diagnostic error each year, confirming the pressing nature of the public health problem.  

 

+++research and article by John Hopkins and Harvard !

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/newsroom/news-releases/2023/07/report-highlights-public-health-impact-of-serious-harms-from-diagnostic-error-in-us

20 minutes ago, rumak said:

In another thread, someone asked " who should i believe, a "scientist"  or a bricklayer.

In the same spirit one can ask:

Who should I believe, somebody describing serious adverse effects or his health nose-diving after his covid-shot or the Big Pharma funded/sponsored scientist/researcher/doctor trying to convince use that there is 'nothing to see here' and that post-jab adverse effects are coincidental or imaginary.  

If a plumber with a lifetime of experience were to tell you that water runs uphill, you would know he is lying and that the lie is not accidental.  But in medical matters a lie is not so easily spotted especially when it is packed in jargon that only those educated in that jargon are fully able to grasp.

So ultimately you need to take responsibility for your own health (like @rumak is doing).  

And that requires a more than fair amount of common sense, trusting your inner compass and of course doing your own research (in a sense of not blindly accepting what figures of authority claim).  

1 hour ago, Red Phoenix said:

lifetime of experience

 

Just like how we evaluate the plumber, the car mechanic,  the builder,  the place that sells the meat or vegetables we want to buy,  the tools we use.... the people we want as friends.... where we want to live .... It's endless !!  

The evolution of the medical industry over the last 60 years,  from a caring , fairly reasonably priced position in society , to the present massive fortress of standardized, impersonal encounters, and protocols that are demanded, not recommended .....with dire consequences to those administering and those requiring care who dare to question  "this is the way we do it ! "

So tyrannical that even opinions of highly intelligent experts in their fields are immediately punished for offering methods or solutions that differ from the mandated ones.   Mandated !   And taking age old remedies off the shelf .  Simply psychopaths.

 

Leaving the nest at 16 ,  i have a long history of experience.   Many successful people will agree that we learn a lot more from our mistakes than we do from successes.  One thing I learnt was to judge by what i saw , not by what i was told.   Many small missteps in my life saved me from making the big fall .  How could the whole world , the WHOLE WORLD  suddenly be dropping dead and told to follow orders that made no sense ? 

Stick some crap in my body ??  uh uh .   Anyone who undertook to have read 1984, to see V is for Vendetta,  to have cause to not trust authority,  to not buy into the consumer mentality,  to seek freedom over a promised pension after 30 years of service , to feel demeaned by the ongoing expansion of rules and regulations,  to see firsthand that the BS passed along as progress was anything but;  just fatter, less agile, more aggressive humanoids who were addicted to pharma drugs and tech devices.

 

enough rant .  haha  .   this is the new, updated Rumak N.I.  (Natural Intelligence) 

Anyone with sinus congestion :   put a small piece paper towel soaked in very light solution of water and ACV in your nostril .   Hold one side and snort up .  Repeat on other side .    Will clear and prevent an infection .   (i did it .   it really works ! )

On 6/1/2025 at 12:35 PM, Red Phoenix said:

Most certainly a resounding YES (and its actually hard to find an independent practician not being molded by the corrupt medical system). 

From medical schools to newsrooms, pharmaceutical companies have infiltrated the very institutions meant to protect your health - and the consequences are more serious than you think.  

And although the article featured here is about the US situation, the Big Pharma Octopus has spread its tentacles and practices worldwide. 

 

  Follow the Money — How Big Pharma Hijacked Modern Healthcare

 

Story at-a-glance

• Pharmaceutical companies have embedded themselves into the media, medical schools, nonprofits, and federal agencies. Their far-reaching influence has allowed them to shape public health narratives
• Journalist Sharyl Attkisson reveals how pharmaceutical companies, federal agencies, and mainstream media work together to bury vaccine injuries, suppress clinical trial failures, and silence experts who speak out
• Many trusted nonprofit health organizations receive funding from pharmaceutical companies, creating conflicts of interest that affect their public health recommendations
• Medical students are trained using pharma-funded materials that downplay drug risks. They’re conditioned to prescribe medications instead of investigating root causes or offering real, lasting treatments
• To protect yourself from deception, don’t hesitate to question health narratives and seek independent voices who prioritize public health over corporate-aligned messaging

 

You can read the full story - including many illustrative cases - here: https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2025/06/01/how-big-pharma-hijacked-modern-healthcare.aspx

 

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should be mandatory reading for beginners .  there are cheap and simple fixes for many of the most common ailments ( colds, stomach problems,  throat issues, ibs, skin cancers.... etc etc.   )    My trial and error and those and other issues takes time, dedication ( nothing works in 1 day ..... except baking soda for gas , which can usually fix it in a few minutes !  55 ) 

this site is useful... but can be confusing trying to figure out which remedy one feels most comfortable with.   I start SIMPLE  first .    

I used to rinse sinus with salt water... helps a bit .  Finally got a bit braver and tried the ACV ......... wow .   much better   https://www.earthclinic.com/ailments.html

People do not go to the doctor to heat they need to diet and exercise. 

 

I see all these young people at the doctors, for what? Until was an old man, I don't remember ever going to the doctor unless I needed stiches or a bone set. 

Too many people concentrate on treating the symptoms, instead of eliminating the causes.

 

Most non bacterial or viral ailments, comes down to eating & exercise 'lifestyle'.  Actually that will also affect and boost your immune system, when doing correctly, to help when you do get a bacterial or viral infection.

 

Get you BP, Glucose level down in the normal range.  Lipid panel & Apob to healthy levels, through diet & exercise.  If that fails after 6-12 months of 'honest' effort, then consider meds to assist.

 

All meds will take their toll on your kidneys and or liver.  So the less, for shortest time, the better.

 

Just pure common sense, not really rocket science.

 

Whole foods .... if it has an ingredient label, leave it on the shelf.  Or at least read & understand the damn thing.

RP...... I do not use any A.I. system.

 

just wondering if this is a true statement  :  "President Trump recently said Big Pharma is more powerful than the US Congress, US Senate and US Supreme Court.

Not all, but many doctors are influenced by big pharma. 

My experience with drs in Thailand is that they are incapable of diagnosing the cause of a medical issue, so they just treat the visible symptoms by loading you up with 3 or 4 packets of antibiotics, pain killers and other drugs. All of which they get paid a back hander for from big pharma.

2 minutes ago, TigerandDog said:

My experience with drs in Thailand is that they are incapable of diagnosing the cause of a medical issue, so they just treat the visible symptoms by loading you up with 3 or 4 packets of antibiotics, pain killers and other drugs. All of which they get paid a back hander for from big pharma.

How many times have you been to the doctor in Thailand, and for what? 

.

5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

How many times have you been to the doctor in Thailand, and for what? 

Firstly that's none of your business. Secondly I've been living here for 11 years, and if you read my opening words I stated "based on my experience". That is NOT a generalisation. I will add that my wife experiences EXACTLY the same thing when she needs to go to the dr.

2 minutes ago, TigerandDog said:

Firstly that's none of your business. Secondly I've been living here for 11 years, and if you read my opening words I stated "based on my experience". That is NOT a generalisation. I will add that my wife experiences EXACTLY the same thing when she needs to go to the dr.

When you want to use your experience to support a position, you should be willing to provide what some of those experiences have been. 

 

I've been living here about 25 years, and my experience with the doctors here has been great. The only time they had difficulty with a diagnosis was when my platelet count was low, and that was understandable. 

Some of the criticisms in the article were made at one time or another by RFK Jr. He continuously gets blasted and is often corned into making rapid responses to his comments as he attempts to defend his perspective causing him to blurt out statements that make him look bad. Perhaps he is on the right track in many areas, but is often misquoted and misunderstood. He gets in his own way by over explaining and it is easy to get lost while he is making his point. He would do much better with a spokesperson and I do not mean his boss.

 

 

On 6/5/2025 at 7:31 PM, rumak said:

RP...... I do not use any A.I. system.

 

just wondering if this is a true statement  :  "President Trump recently said Big Pharma is more powerful than the US Congress, US Senate and US Supreme Court.

That could be true. However there are s few rivals for 'most powerful'.

 

Big Pharma

Military Complex

Big Oil

Chemical Industry

Big food

Israel lobby

Bankers

Big Tech

 

My money is on the Bankers. Followed by the Israel Lobby.

5 hours ago, TigerandDog said:

My experience with drs in Thailand is that they are incapable of diagnosing the cause of a medical issue, so they just treat the visible symptoms by loading you up with 3 or 4 packets of antibiotics, pain killers and other drugs. All of which they get paid a back hander for from big pharma.

Sounds like the doctors all over.

22 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Sounds like the doctors all over.

 

midwestern doctor :  "  It is for this reason that I am gradually trying to go through all the commonly prescribed drugs that frequently cause more harm than good (e.g., I’ve done so with acid reflux medications, antidepressants, blood pressure medications, benzodiazepines, bisphosphonates for osteoporosis, corticosteroids, NSAIDs and other pain killers like Gabapentin, Ozempic and other GLP-1 drugs, sleeping pills, statins and each of the childhood vaccines). However, despite now having spent years on that project, I still have only scratched the surface of this debacle, as there are just so many drugs on the market that the existing evidence shows are massively overprescribed, frequently injure their recipients, and have much safer alternatives."

 

rumak:  he forgot the "floxins"  which rupture tendons ( i was reprimanded when i warned about them on this forum) .   So, the good doctor has "spent years" and only "scratched the surface".   jeeez ,  must be a very slow learner . 

 

I am kept busy with finding/using  natural remedies for typical health issues faced by the "ageing human" .     As a character on an old detective series (Hunter) used to say , "works for me" .   The only "med" i take is an eye drop .... and my goal is to get rid of that as well .    

59 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

That could be true. However there are s few rivals for 'most powerful'.

 

Big Pharma

Military Complex

Big Oil

Chemical Industry

Big food

Israel lobby

Bankers

Big Tech

 

My money is on the Bankers. Followed by the Israel Lobby.

 

Money makes the world go round .   And controls the 8 billion hamsters running on the wheel ,  as the Bankers ( i could think of other words to call them) watch and laugh .

 

Dr Shiva always my favorite video for easy explanation of "the swarm" :

 

 

40 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

Money makes the world go round .   And controls the 8 billion hamsters running on the wheel ,  as the Bankers ( i could think of other words to call them) watch and laugh .

 

Dr Shiva always my favorite video for easy explanation of "the swarm" :

 

 

Pretty good summary that.

 

Goes right to the top. Why was RFK taken out? IMO; executive order11110. Why the finger pointing toward the Ruskies and China? Because they will not bend the knee. Iran also.

 

John Lennon

Bill Cooper

Brandy Vaughn

Robin Cook

Etc.